AI Reshapes Corporate Workforce as Companies Halt Traditional Hiring 119
Major corporations are reshaping their workforces around AI with Salesforce announcing it will not hire software engineers in 2025 and other companies laying off thousands while shifting focus to AI-specific roles. Duolingo has laid off thousands after implementing ChatGPT-4, UPS cut 4,000 jobs in its largest layoff in 116 years, and IBM paused hiring for back-office and HR positions that AI can now handle.
Amazon is redirecting staff from Alexa to AI areas, while Intuit is laying off 10% of its non-AI workforce. Cisco plans to cut 7% of employees in its second round of job cuts this year as it prioritizes AI and cybersecurity. Salesforce reports its AI platform is boosting software engineering productivity by 30%. SAP is restructuring 8,000 positions to focus on AI-driven business areas. The trend extends globally, with Microsoft relocating thousands during an "exodus" from China, while entry-level jobs on Wall Street are becoming obsolete.
A study found that 3 out of 10 companies replaced workers with AI last year, with over one-third of firms using AI likely to automate more roles in 2025. Job listings at large privately-held AI companies have dropped 14.2% over six months, JP Morgan wrote in a note seen by Slashdot. The transformation is creating new opportunities, with rising demand for AI skills in job postings. A survey of more than 1,200 users found nearly two-thirds of young professionals use AI tools at work, with 93% not worried about job threats, as business leaders view Generation Z's digital skills as beneficial for leveraging AI.
Amazon is redirecting staff from Alexa to AI areas, while Intuit is laying off 10% of its non-AI workforce. Cisco plans to cut 7% of employees in its second round of job cuts this year as it prioritizes AI and cybersecurity. Salesforce reports its AI platform is boosting software engineering productivity by 30%. SAP is restructuring 8,000 positions to focus on AI-driven business areas. The trend extends globally, with Microsoft relocating thousands during an "exodus" from China, while entry-level jobs on Wall Street are becoming obsolete.
A study found that 3 out of 10 companies replaced workers with AI last year, with over one-third of firms using AI likely to automate more roles in 2025. Job listings at large privately-held AI companies have dropped 14.2% over six months, JP Morgan wrote in a note seen by Slashdot. The transformation is creating new opportunities, with rising demand for AI skills in job postings. A survey of more than 1,200 users found nearly two-thirds of young professionals use AI tools at work, with 93% not worried about job threats, as business leaders view Generation Z's digital skills as beneficial for leveraging AI.
AI? (Score:5, Insightful)
Or.... We overhired due to the cheap money and excessive fiscal stimulus, pulled away the punchbowl and now the party is over.
Re:AI? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:AI? (Score:5, Interesting)
Today, executives are following the AI trend even if AI isn't ready to replace actual, living developers
Thats the thing, AI is nowhere near able to replace workers. What is happening is AI is increasing the productivity of workers, doubly so in areas of writing near template responses, and this lets them fire say 10% of workers because productivity is now way up. Also they don’t pay a cent more per hour to now more productive employees.
Re:AI? (Score:5, Insightful)
AI is nowhere near able to replace workers.
That's because AI doesn't exist (at least on Earth).
We only have what people CALL "AI"......which isn't, you know....AI.
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AI is nowhere near able to replace workers.
That's because AI doesn't exist (at least on Earth).
We only have what people CALL "AI"......which isn't, you know....AI.
Are you sure they just aren’t using Al short for Algorithm? /s
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And what you don't understand is that what in the past was called "AI" is now called "AGI".
although I doubt I'll live to see it, I expect AGI to be renamed to AHI (Actual Human Intelligence) at some point
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I have a textbook from the 90s on Artificial Intelligence. No one has ever argued to me that the title is incorrect or misleading. But implement any of the techniques in the book for adaptive algorithms, expert systems, classification algorithms or what-have-you, and those same people will scream that it's not AI.
It was tedious in the 90s and it's tedious now.
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I have a textbook from the 90s on Artificial Intelligence. No one has ever argued to me that the title is incorrect or misleading. But implement any of the techniques in the book for adaptive algorithms, expert systems, classification algorithms or what-have-you, and those same people will scream that it's not AI.
It was tedious in the 90s and it's tedious now.
I'm not clear on what you're saying. People you knew in the 90s were screaming then that expert systems et al were "not AI"?
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Hold-outs, like you, who insist that it has some special technical meaning
Plus the technical meaning isn't dictated by the most grouchy people on slashdot.
Lots of stuff has been called AI over the years, to refer to a means where some degree of human intelligence is replaced with an artifice. I have a book from an AI course I did a few decades ago which covered things like A* search, minimax searches (e.g. for came playing like chess), general search algorithms and a bunch of other stuff. A lot of it relate
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Anyway, that was called AI and no one complained "but that's not true AI".
They almost certainly did, since we have the terms "hard AI" and "soft AI."
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I think you may have forgotten what it's like to be young.
A bunch of undergrads learning about cool stuff for the first time from a good lecturer doesn't generally engender complaining, especially on courses in the harder modules. It was outside of a hype bubble (circa 2000), so it's not like anyone was tired of people claiming human level cognition.
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Can't wait for AI to become its own contronym
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Oh, nice, a troll mod for pointing out simple and objectively-verifiable, true, relevant facts.
Slashdot is awesome.
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I've argued to my boss that an AI LLM could do half of my job. We should get one and then I could do twice as much work and, therefore, get paid twice as much money. So far, no success.
That argument makes no sense. Specifically, it makes no sense for you to engage in an argument. If an AI could allow you to do twice as much work, simply get the AI yourself and don't involve your manager. Then, let your manager know that you're willing to do more work for more money.
If your manager says they have no more work available for you to do, then just get your current work done in half the time/effort and appreciate how easy your AI has made your job. If your manager doesn't believe you can do mor
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get your same salary with half the work and get another full time job that can also be half automated. Boom, you just doubled your salary. Bosses think this is “dishonest” because you are getting more of your productivity paid for.
As spoken by the prophet [dailydot.com].
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Using AI to produce responses is very risky. Human beings are not good at reading big chunks of near identical text to scan for errors all day.
The real issue is that many businesses don't care about quality. They have a job that needs doing to a minimum standard, that's all. If AI slop gets it done, even if it's wrong sometimes, unless being wrong occasionally costs them more than hiring a human...
BupkisGPT (Score:4, Interesting)
> Executives love following trends.
There is a social reason for this. If you go with the flow and get fired, then the hiring pool of your peers are full of similar flubsters. You don't look as bad in comparison. But if you buck the trend and are fired for guessing wrong, then your mistake stands out. It's not fair, but humans aren't fair.
That being said, I don't see many "real jobs" that have actually been replaced with AI. The only ones that I give a legitimate claim are telemarketers, trivial help-desks, and background art/music artisans. Otherwise, show me the job details!
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We used to call this "Nobody gets fired for picking IBM".
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I think they're an... AI company now? ;-)
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Apple just announced that it's investing $500 billion in the US and hiring 20,000 developers over the next 4 years. That could be the start of this trend.
Developers or low-paid workers for tasks such as filling the parts bins on the robots that assemble the iPhones?
Cynically though, I like to imagine that they're just going to hire 20,000 people to stand around Apple stores and stare off into space. Based on my experience with Apple Stores, that has to be a real position.
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https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Fnewsroom... [apple.com]
Re: AI? (Score:4, Insightful)
I think AI will replace a lot of coding roles, and we will write programs via UML. Trouble is, AI may not be able to troubleshoot and debug those programs or integrate them with other applications, and if we dont produce people who know how to code then we will flop.
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I think AI will replace a lot of coding roles, and we will write programs via UML. Trouble is, AI may not be able to troubleshoot and debug those programs or integrate them with other applications, and if we dont produce people who know how to code then we will flop.
AI can do all of that.
The problem is that the people directing the AI are such horrible software engineers that they will create a mess.
The limitation is not the AI. It is the person directing the AI and pushing towards untestable systems.
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Yeah. Suure. Keep hallucinating.
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That "writing programs via UML" (and other efforts to create code based on spec automatically) has been tried before. Abysmal failure. Writing good UML (or specs) is _harder_ than writing code.
Why does nobody know the history of code creation anymore?
Re: AI? - we are condemned to repeat the past (Score:2)
Pack in the 1980's and 1990's fourth generation languages (4GLs) were going to allow people to produce spiffing applications without the need for anyone who could actually code. The languages of the day, Algol, Cobol, and FORTRAN would be consigned the dustbin of history.
Access, Visual Basic, and Frameworks all made similar promises and now we have AI manifesting itself as the latest iteration of the Emperor's clothing.
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I am not a developer so I could be out my ass but in my limited AI experience and talking with the devs I work with this does seem to be how AI code tools assist today. One guy described his process as working backwards, he'll ask the AI for something until it gives the output they want but then work backwards from it to write his own code/functions which end up being much more concise.
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but holy hell is it verbose, and creates a TON of technical debt to maintain.
Since about 60% of software cost is maintenance and only 20% is initial code generation, that would indicate using "AI" coding assistants produce code at much higher cost. The real cost may become visible a bit later, but this sounds pretty deadly.
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Or.... We overhired due to the cheap money and excessive fiscal stimulus, pulled away the punchbowl and now the party is over.
Probably both. Some of it is a correction, but some of it is surely the expectation that theses glorified scripts we now call AI can and will replace the jobs of many people. As has been predicted, computer automation, including AI, is a jobs-killer, unlike other forms of automation where jobs were created via hands on work needed for the newer technologies (i.e. automobiles largely kill off horses and buggies but also spawn new petroleum and mechanics jobs). Computer automation is going to be different fro
Good bye empathy.. Hello sociopath (Score:1)
as "AI" chatbots completely take over customer service.
Re:Good bye empathy.. Hello sociopath (Score:5, Insightful)
The inability to actually connect with a human being when you have a problem is not going to be mentally healthy for society.
Re:Good bye empathy.. Hello sociopath (Score:5, Interesting)
The inability to actually connect with a human being when you have a problem is not going to be mentally healthy for society.
20-30 years of reaching an automated phone tree instead of a live human hasn't done that yet?
Useless Anectode: In pre-connected times, when I was a teenager in the mid-late 80's, I found dad's old lighter, an ST Dupont. Lighter had to be 1960's. By the time I found it, it wouldn't hold butane gas -- it'd piss it out as soon as it went in.
No one in PR knew where to get it fixed, not even dealers of that brand.
I called the French Consulate in PR, and in a horrid mix of Spanish and French I got enough through for the lady who answered to "get it." I got an address from her to an authorized agent, and sent it, got it back.... enjoyed it for a year or two.. and then left it on a domino table at my gf's school. Never saw it again.
Point is, used to be you could talk to humans to figure this out., Now it's all phone trees and automated bullshit that ends up in raised tempers, and raised blood pressures
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We have this now, the endless chain of bad IVR systems, automated response, dial 0-9 for sales but if it's not sales, it's a burden on sales to the MBAs.
This is why companies with live operators that answer in a reasonable amount of time, have answers, and complete calls, have great customer retention. We all know who these organizations are and we glue themselves, even if they charge a bit more than their competition.
Their evil cousin, the chatbots, are in reality humans dealing with dozens of chats concur
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You want a special tax for using AI in the work place. Did you call for a special tax when personally computers hit the scene? Do you want a special tax for self driving cars? Maybe we need a special tax for the Internet to fund libraries?
If that sounds silly, it's because it is silly. AI is just another technology that will be used by humans to increase productivity. We'll adjust as we always have.
If in fact AI does some how magically kill off a huge swath of jobs, we'll deal with that as well. It could ge
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I wish it were silly.
We're not adjusting as we always have, the evidence on the streets living in tents, the hopes of simple home purchases stanched for millions, student debt like a noose around graduate's necks, and the public welfare spent at record heights, along with national debt many times the annual GDP. Look in front of you.
The cashiers are gone, replaced by automated checkout devices that don't pay payroll taxes. Their corporate owners have figured out how also to not pay taxes.
Without the taxes,
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I wouldn't blame AI for human greed, which is much more directly linked to increased homelessness, increased cost of housing and increased student debt. None of this has anything to do with AI. AI could actually be used to improve our lives, but instead we'll likely just let our corporate masters use it to enrich themselves.
Regarding your cashier comment. Yes, this is increasingly true. At the same time, the home shopping department in the very same grocery store now has more employees then there ever was c
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Your additions to the sources of problems is accurate. That doesn't change the fact that the AI entities used replace humans and the AI entities don't fund social programs-- but humans do.
I go to the human cashiers, whose lines are long. I'm patient. I want you to have a job. The scanners have a job, but are not taxed, and they replace breathers.
That housing is too damn expensive, and gougers are rife plays to the greed you cite. My citation is to hammer the point that we need to tax the AI entities replaci
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> Their corporate owners have figured out how also to not pay taxes.
That's BS.
If you can get a "labor tax" for AI accomplished, you CERTAINLY can start holding companies accountable for their taxes! It's a no-brainer in comparison.
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Various tax mitigations are invented seemingly every day. The strategy is to start with one, and let it get knocked down, modified, bribed, campaign contributed, until it's useless, like the current corporate model(s).
Then find something else to fuel actual and needed governance.
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>AI doesn't pay taxes, SDI, none of it. And for this reason, there should be a labor tax on AI to pay for its social toll
Why can't you just tax the corporation? Why tax a specific labor saving device?
Imagine there was a labor tax on steam engines back in the day. Who in the hell would have ever touched the tech? No one!
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Sounds good onscreen, but the reality is that through various schemes, the big corps simply don't pay taxes. It's an illusion.
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Well then getting a "labor tax" for AI is likely to be an illusion too, since they will be owned by big corps.
So, you are essentially saying neither solution is tenable, which I will agree with.
I was just stating that it would be AT LEAST just as easy to get corps to pay taxes as this new thing.
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The inability to actually connect with a human being when you have a problem is not going to be mentally healthy for society.
20-30 years of reaching an automated phone tree instead of a live human hasn't done that yet?
Useless Anectode: In pre-connected times, when I was a teenager in the mid-late 80's, I found dad's old lighter, an ST Dupont. Lighter had to be 1960's. By the time I found it, it wouldn't hold butane gas -- it'd piss it out as soon as it went in.
No one in PR knew where to get it fixed, not even dealers of that brand.
I called the French Consulate in PR, and in a horrid mix of Spanish and French I got enough through for the lady who answered to "get it." I got an address from her to an authorized agent, and sent it, got it back.... enjoyed it for a year or two.. and then left it on a domino table at my gf's school. Never saw it again.
Point is, used to be you could talk to humans to figure this out., Now it's all phone trees and automated bullshit that ends up in raised tempers, and raised blood pressures
The problem is, that no one wants to pay for humans to sit by the phone... and it's also a job humans really don't want to do. If you've ever worked for a call centre you know that staff turnover is horrendous. If you've got someone who's good they'll be promoted sharpish, at the very least to an L2 position on the phones if not to an engineering team. People who can find better jobs will do so as soon as they can, so you get left with people who either cant find a better job, have absolutely no ambition to
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If you are referring to tech support, things can't get any worse than they are now
Tech support is seen as a cost to be minimized, so companies provide the bare minimum
If you can actually reach a person after lots of frustration with robots, the person is usually barely competent at best, reading from a script
I look forward to a time when a tech support AI has access to all technical details about a product, including all known problems and their solutions and can answer questions accurately, in full technic
Re: Good bye empathy.. Hello sociopath (Score:2)
Works until someone figures out a way to utilize the chatbots for illegal, immoral or fattening purposes.
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That has happened a while ago. For all three.
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Whenever I get on a CS chat, my first request is "live agent please". Usually works. If I don't get one I hang up.
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That's winning? They want you to hang up.
News from the future (Score:5, Insightful)
Corporations Shocked That Nobody Knows How Their Own Systems Work
Repeated disasters in production are leaving corporations scratching their heads trying to figure out what went wrong. "We fired all the useless people and now the stuff they build doesn't work and AI can't fix it! Nobody in the company can fix it which is why I'm getting a bonus for outsourcing the repair to India which will definitely work. I am great, if I do say so myself." said one executive. Article continues after the break.
Click here for an AI summary of this article! [slashdot.org]
What could possibly go wrong?
So they will just make the remaining engineers (Score:2)
This isn't a problem that's going to go away in a few years. I mean if you retire it might because you're not in the workforce anymore although I would be scared of retiring right now with all this talk of tariffs and national sales taxes. A fixed income would make life really tough under those circumstances.
But assuming you're going to stay in the wor
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Who know what they're doing work 80 and 90 hours a week.
Hahaha, no. First, in many places that would actually be illegal. (Not the US, I guess...) But second, at these workloads people have _negative_ productivity, because they make so many mistakes and have no ideas anymore. The peak performance per wall-clock-time for mental workers is at around 36h/week. Work more, produce less in absolute terms (!). I am surprised this is still not know to so many people. The research on this is absolutely solid and about 100 years old.
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You know, I do not see any trend to "AI" "coding" here in Europe. Some companies have actually banned it outright. Of course, what gets hired is software-engineers, etc., i.e. people that can code but can also do all the surrounding things that AI cannot do at all.
time to start lowing what seen as full time hours? (Score:2)
time to start lowing what seen as full time hours?
Can we start to roll AI news into one update a day (Score:4)
Most of today's headlines are AI crap. It's getting tiresome, quickly.
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Not on Slashdot unless the "editors" are replaced.
AI even at current levels would perform better than they choose to but no one outside older users remembers when Slashdot was so influential mere mention of content here would get the source "Slashdotted" by unintentional DDOS.
The benefit of GenZ is they are cheaper (Score:2)
It has nothing to do with "digital skills", fucking pablum.
This is the dream (Score:1)
Machines do our work for us so that humans can do less work and have more time for leisure personal pursuits.
Saw this attitude in manufacturing (Score:5, Insightful)
Then: lay off the entry level engineers first because we have senior people who know everything.
Now: Oh No! Our senior people retired, died, etc and we dont have any junior people to replace them and we cant find senior people who understand the art behind our niche process/equipment! We are soon out of business!
Most would be shocked how much of this exists right now in the basic materials industry.
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Don't forget advertising a senior role with a junior starting wage. Or even a junior role with all the responsibilities of a senior.
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Don't forget advertising a senior role with a junior starting wage. Or even a junior role with all the responsibilities of a senior.
Those folks just as well put up a want ad that says, "We fired everybody that knows everything, and will be hiring them back as consultants at 10 times their original salary when we realize nobody wants senior responsibility with entry level wages."
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Don't forget advertising a senior role with a junior starting wage. Or even a junior role with all the responsibilities of a senior.
Those folks just as well put up a want ad that says, "We fired everybody that knows everything, and will be hiring them back as consultants at 10 times their original salary when we realize nobody wants senior responsibility with entry level wages."
Joke is on you, you may actually not be able to hire these people back. And then your organization simply dies. Will be observable with the US administration in the next few years, if they continue as they do now. Excellent reference case on how to not do it for the textbooks. Hence I guess Elonia will leave something behind.
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Don't forget advertising a senior role with a junior starting wage. Or even a junior role with all the responsibilities of a senior.
Those folks just as well put up a want ad that says, "We fired everybody that knows everything, and will be hiring them back as consultants at 10 times their original salary when we realize nobody wants senior responsibility with entry level wages."
Joke is on you, you may actually not be able to hire these people back. And then your organization simply dies. Will be observable with the US administration in the next few years, if they continue as they do now. Excellent reference case on how to not do it for the textbooks. Hence I guess Elonia will leave something behind.
I was just basing my statement on past experience. Last place I worked fired the overall IT admin because they thought somebody fresh out of school would be cheaper. They hired the firm he set up as a consulting firm a couple years later, paying him way more than he had asked for to stay on. But, with the MBA mentality now trickling all the way up to the White House, it'll happen on a global scale now.
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Indeed. And I have seen scenarios like this as well.
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Then: lay off the entry level engineers first because we have senior people who know everything.
Now: Oh No! Our senior people retired, died, etc and we dont have any junior people to replace them and we cant find senior people who understand the art behind our niche process/equipment! We are soon out of business!
Most would be shocked how much of this exists right now in the basic materials industry.
AI writes better code than humans.
When AI has to work around bad human code, it has problems.
When AI rewrites entire systems, AI will know everything and it can update the system properly instead of having to work around bad human code.
Your junior engineers will come from a different path, product engineering path rather than software engineering.
The code is disposable. The entire system can be rewritten in a short time if an engineer can direct it properly and know what it needs to do.
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Are you sarcastic or completely unaware of basically all software engineering research?
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It's like that old joke about the pyramids. How mankind can accomplish anything with vision, determination and an endless supply
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Yep. Applied stupidity.
real threat from AI (Score:3)
> while entry-level jobs on Wall Street are becoming obsolete
Untrained humans is the real threat from AI.
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Untrained humans is the real threat from AI.
Everyone, rich, poor, Puerto Rican, etc all start out untrained. EVERYONE. Our school are unfit for training. The more advanced schools are out of reach for the common person.
What do you propose to do with those billions of people if you will not let them grow food on YOUR property? Who will be protecting your property? AI powered guns? LOL, people are MUCH smarter than AI, even the dumb ones. They will get around your sentry turrets and eat your heart.
What about mid-level jobs? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Someone needs to take the specifications from the customers and bring them down to the software engineers.
A people person.
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So, what happens the mid-level employees start to retire or move to new jobs, and you need someone with experience to fill that spot? Now, you don't have the people that gained experience at the lower levels that are now run by AI to fill in the higher levels. Generative AI is pretty slick with recreating what's already been done, but what will companies do when they need someone that can think outside the box to solve a problem or be truly innovative? You won't have trained your replacements, and now you're relying on a tech that doesn't actually know 1+1=2.
They fervent hope of the current AI prophets is that they'll have figured out through the data they collect doing the grunt-level work how to replace the next tiers up through the years as the workforce shifts. Now, I don't know if they're actually going to be capable of doing it, but that seems to be the general direction they're trying to steer things.
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Probably. But that is not going to work anytime soon and may never work.
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Indeed. And "thinking outside the box" (often just a very simple box) happens to be the case you have developers for in the first place. Things that are solved, you can simply buy.
Citations? (Score:2)
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I don't think they replace people with AI (Score:2)
They just RIF and expect the survivors to keep up because now they have AI agents they can program to do the extra work. But regardless, they are doing extra work.
That's nice and all, but... (Score:5, Funny)
What happens when the AI companies die in the next three to eighteen months?
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Wenn scam operations die, the victims (and morons) are left holding the bag and their operations die some time later.
Re: That's nice and all, but... (Score:2)
Is OpenAI eating their own dog food? (Score:2)
Have OpenAI and the likes started to do so as well? Then I'd worry.
Headline: "Companies Halt Traditional Hiring" (Score:3)
So, no actual evidence of that "Halt to Traditional Hiring".
Start with the executives (Score:5, Insightful)
For those who plan on actually doing this, I say: go on, but first replace the entire C-Suite with AI.
Obviously they will not do that, so until then we should just consider this what it is: layoffs under the guise of something new.
wait.. so AI is making your teams more effective, (Score:2)
wait.. so AI is making your teams more effective, so let's cut the staff making us money?
How about you leverage that to getting more and better products out?
Why do we need to keep staff at burnout levels and products at bare minimum just to cut costs? has revenue generation become an obsolete concept? Seems like everyone is trying to grow by cutting expenses or gouging prices versus new or better products.
So effin tired of this short term benefit bullshit that fucks everyone over that is actually making t
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So effin tired of this short term benefit bullshit that fucks everyone over
Standard MO of a rather large part of the human race. Without that abysmal stupidity, we probably would not have any major problems on this dirtball.
Salesforce is hiring *people* to sell its AI (Score:2)
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fnews%2F... [linkedin.com]
If its AI sales bot is really so good, why don't they let AI sell itself?
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True. But the marks cannot understand an idea this complex.
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So if the "marks" can't understand the idea, surely AI can educate them!
Where are the references? (Score:2)
Frank Herbert's vision kinda coming true... (Score:2)
I see a Butlerian Jihad coming with the corps and their "thinking machines" falling.
Some of this thinking around AI removing entry level positions makes me chuckle because the corps are signing their own death warrants. Not necessarily by an uprising but because today's entry level becomes tomorrow's seniors. Without that pipeline, eventually there will be no one to replace the retiring and the business becomes an empty failed husk.
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Salesforce is selling ai products. They want you to think their products as a "must have".
Yep. FOMO marketing. And all the idiots fall for it.