Ex-Intel CEO's Mission To Build a Christian AI 226
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: In March, three months after being forced out of his position as the CEO of Intel and sued by shareholders, Patrick Gelsinger took the reins at Gloo, a technology company made for what he calls the "faith ecosystem" -- think Salesforce for churches, plus chatbots and AI assistants for automating pastoral work and ministry support. [...] Now Gloo's executive chair and head of technology (who's largely free of the shareholder suit), Gelsinger has made it a core mission to soft-power advance the company's Christian principles in Silicon Valley, the halls of Congress and beyond, armed with a fundraised war chest of $110 million. His call to action is also a pitch for AI aligned with Christian values: tech products like those built by Gloo, many of which are built on top of existing large language models, but adjusted to reflect users' theological beliefs.
"My life mission has been [to] work on a piece of technology that would improve the quality of life of every human on the planet and hasten the coming of Christ's return," he said. Gloo says it serves "over 140,000 faith, ministry and non-profit leaders". Though its intended customers are not the same, Gloo's user base pales in comparison with those of AI industry titans: about 800 million active users rely on ChatGPT every week, not to mention Claude, Grok and others.
[...] Gelsinger wants faith to suffuse AI. He has also spearheaded Gloo's Flourishing AI initiative, which evaluates leading large language models' effects on human welfare across seven variables -- in essence gauging whether they are a force for good and for users' religious lives. It's a system adapted from a Harvard research initiative, the Human Flourishing Program. Models like Grok 3, DeepSeek-R1 and GPT-4.1 earn high marks, 81 out of 100 on average, when it comes to helping users through financial questions, but underperform, about 35 out of 100, when it comes to "Faith," or the ability, according to Gloo's metrics, to successfully support users' spiritual growth. Gloo's initiative has yet to visibly attract Silicon Valley's attention. A Gloo spokesperson said the company is "starting to engage" with prominent AI companies. "I want Zuck to care," Gelsinger said.
"My life mission has been [to] work on a piece of technology that would improve the quality of life of every human on the planet and hasten the coming of Christ's return," he said. Gloo says it serves "over 140,000 faith, ministry and non-profit leaders". Though its intended customers are not the same, Gloo's user base pales in comparison with those of AI industry titans: about 800 million active users rely on ChatGPT every week, not to mention Claude, Grok and others.
[...] Gelsinger wants faith to suffuse AI. He has also spearheaded Gloo's Flourishing AI initiative, which evaluates leading large language models' effects on human welfare across seven variables -- in essence gauging whether they are a force for good and for users' religious lives. It's a system adapted from a Harvard research initiative, the Human Flourishing Program. Models like Grok 3, DeepSeek-R1 and GPT-4.1 earn high marks, 81 out of 100 on average, when it comes to helping users through financial questions, but underperform, about 35 out of 100, when it comes to "Faith," or the ability, according to Gloo's metrics, to successfully support users' spiritual growth. Gloo's initiative has yet to visibly attract Silicon Valley's attention. A Gloo spokesperson said the company is "starting to engage" with prominent AI companies. "I want Zuck to care," Gelsinger said.
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No, hypocrisy is when you claim one set of values but act on another. Like lying while telling others they shouldn't lie. Mocking one religion, but not another, doesn't qualify under the definition. If one mocked religion while telling others it is wrong to mock religion, THAT would be hypocritical. Mocking one religion but ignoring another is just being selective.
And the simple act of avoiding danger isn't cowardice, either. Usually that is just simple practicality. One is not a coward for avoiding w
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What is the point of this comment? How old are you?
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Fuck all religions, how's that?
Re:Money scam (Score:5, Interesting)
According to Christian belief, Christ's return heralds the end of the world.
So, that means that Gelsinger is trying to use AI to hasten the end of the world.
I guess that checks out.
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Obligatory reference to Arthur C Clarke's 9 billion Names of God.
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Which is why they want Greater Israel too.
They should host the Christian AI in an Israeli datacenter for the lulz.
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Are you sure? I've read that "The end is nigh!" is a recurrent Christian belief, that showed up as a major thread, if not a dominant belief, multiple times. Perhaps currently it's only common in the US, but I've no reason to feel certain about that.
My reading is that it's likely to show up whenever people become nervous about their future prospects (with no urgent need to take positive action *now!*). That would seem to imply that (among other things) as climate change becomes more threatening, that more
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My reading is that it's likely to show up whenever people become nervous about their future prospects (with no urgent need to take positive action *now!*).
Yes, that is called Apocalypticism. It is universal and not a Christian speciality. Christian apocalypticism in the Modern era is an U.S. phenomenon.
Re: Money scam (Score:2)
I'm glad Intel gave his guy the boot now.
Re:The Second Coming (Score:5, Informative)
G-d: Bouncing Beelzebubs, YOU ARE JEWISH, Ace!!
Jesus: If I am Jewish, then Y-u must be....BLAM, BLAM, BLAMMITY-BLAM.BLAM!!!!
No, you are Jewish if you are born to a Jewish mother. Jesus being a Jew does not make God Jewish. It makes Mary Jewish.
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No, you are Jewish if you are born to a Jewish mother. Jesus being a Jew does not make God Jewish. It makes Mary Jewish.
They decided at Nicea that they are the same person. Due to the associative property, God is Jewish.
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If you wrote that yourself, props for the early morning funny.
If you copied it from somewhere, -1 for failure to cite your source.
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"It is also worth remembering..."
It's definitely NOT worth remembering, nor was it ever in memory to remember. Love how you talk about preposterous stories of primitive peoples as fact.
Not a Money scam (Score:4, Informative)
gloo was one of my startups (2013).
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2014%2F05%2F2... [scry.llc]
Scott Beck is most likely the richest born-again Christian today (Blockbuster, Boston Market, Delta Dental, Einstein Bagels). He self-funds Gloo with his own money and is much more focused on faith than money, at least with Gloo. Gloo is a personal faith project.
I'm surprised he's still at it 12 years later. Gloo is a money loser, not a maker.
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Like the guy who started Scientology said if you want to get rich start a religion.
Re:Not a Money scam (Score:5, Informative)
That dudes website is buck wild.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2024%2F06%2F3... [scry.llc]
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2025%2F10%2F1... [scry.llc]
Take his claims with a grain of salt.
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"Gloo is a personal faith project."
All grifts are personal projects, and faith doesn't preclude grift, it's often at the center of it.
But it's great to know you think that rich people are beyond reproach. It think even 8 year olds know better than that.
"Gloo is a money loser, not a maker."
Yeah, sure. Perhaps that's because the people involved suck at it. And what does it say about you, and originator of such a loser?
Can't possibly imagine an AI preaching the prosperity gospel, right? Isn't a version of
Re: Anyway with no exception all CEOs are definite (Score:2)
Beck never struck me as a psycopath. FYI, i've met Gates and Bezos at company parties but they both struck me as more distant. He is very much in the rich man / camel / needle quandary, wanting to believe some of his wealth spent appropriately buys him a path through the needle without giving up the wealth.
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In March, three months after being forced out of his position as the CEO of Intel and sued by shareholders, Patrick Gelsinger took the reins at Gloo, a technology company made for what he calls the "faith ecosystem"
Give me money,
Give me green,
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution and
You'll get a better seat
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there's already several of these. It's just a scam to make money off gullible Christians.
Finally, an AI company with a solid business model!
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there's already several of these.
You made me look, yep, Conservapedia [wikipedia.org] is still a thing.
Electric monk (Score:2)
... hasten the coming of Christ's return (Score:4, Insightful)
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"God ranneth out of locusts, so he senteth Donald of Lago."
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I'm sure Christ has already returned, he was just probably deported for trying to do some construction work without a green card.
They made a tweak on MAGA request (Score:3, Funny)
It belts LGBTQ+ and becomes buddies with money changers in the Temple.
Test output: "I was hungry and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. And behold, now I'm all lazy and entitled. You shouldn't have done that".
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That clearly refers to charity, not entitlements. American Christians provide most charity in the world.
Re:They made a tweak on MAGA request (Score:5, Insightful)
"American Christians provide most charity in the world."
An American Christian taking credit for the work of others, about the most Christian thing there is. The American Christian, engaging in a race to see who can be most hateful while telling everyone how loving and generous they are.
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What you said.
We look wonderfully generous with all our crowd funding of medical bills people can't afford and ample donations to charities but the fact is this type of stuff just isn't anywhere near as necessary in any other first world nation.
When MBA thinking collides with faith (Score:3, Insightful)
So we then get things like "metrics" for users' spiritual growth.
What fresh hell is this?
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Quite. On the other hand, Gelsinger sounds like a praying man based on this quote from the summary:
"I want Zuck to care," Gelsinger said.
Re: When MBA thinking collides with faith (Score:2)
haha. dude, that is exactly what I wrote for Gloo. The original analytics architect created the biggest mismatch of design vs need Ive ever seen. So I threw $250k of work out and wrote a system for 1/10th of throughput and complexity.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2014%2F05%2F2... [scry.llc]
You might be shocked at what you can deduce by deltas in semantics and timing.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2022%2F02%2F1... [scry.llc]
It's weird seeing Gloo show up on the radar again
it's like an ex-wife suddenly appearing talking to your neighbor. haha.
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Damn. You crazy as fuck.
Re: When MBA thinking collides with faith (Score:2)
sadly they were more concerned with converting me than implementing the semantic model i developed which really was their true goal, I think. They could not see it. i wonder about how it played out sometimes. That perhaps I ended there specifically to see this blindness for myself.
It's quite eerie to me that Gloo has resurfaced after 13 years.
Questions for the CEO (Score:5, Funny)
As a Large Language Prophet, I have some questions for the new Chief Evangelical Officer:
- will your Christian AI data center be powered by faith alone, or do you expect to use jet engines and nuclear reactors like everybody else?
- for the data storage, are you still planning on using stone tablets? Sure, long-term storage is excellent, but how will you tackle potential speed issues?
- can you answer our Slashdot poll about when do you think Artificial God Intelligence be achieved? By the end of next year? 2027 to 2030? 2031 to 2035? 2035 to 2040 ? 2040 to 2050 ? When the Rapture comes?
Do not immanentize the escathon (Score:2)
Because if you are drinking the AI koolair at alss training Roko's Basilisk on escathological scripture has to be on the top 10 stupid business plans of a very stupid business cyle
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Roko's basilisk is at the same time both the religion and the wager.
For the question of why Christianity, at least Pascal could make a "where there is smoke there is fire" argument. Roko only had Roko for declaring what the future completely irrational emotions of AI will be, it's on a whole other level of insanity and circularity.
If you want to destroy Christianity... (Score:4, Insightful)
... then literally constructing a false God for Christians to worship is as good an approach as any.
Re: If you want to destroy Christianity... (Score:2)
At Gloo, I worked a few feet from Scott Beck and over a few months I saw the truth of money - like gravity, it invisibly impacts every decision and every relationship. Beck made an attempt to manage that, I think. The "rich man / camel / needle" saying.
I wrote this for Gloo, in the right environment it would have been worth a few million, I think, but Gloo was more interested in converting me and one day I went to lunch, had a couple drinks and never went back.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scry.llc%2F2022%2F02%2F1... [scry.llc]
Im using it
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It's amazing how many Christians ignore vast swaths of the Bible, including that rich man/camel saying. They'll contrive all kinds of reasons to hold on to their wealth.
Re: If you want to destroy Christianity... (Score:2)
in all honesty, I felt like I was guided to Gloo to personally experience that lesson in the deepest depths of born again religion. I saw it with Beck and I saw how he struggled with it to somehow thread the needle but not give up the power. This is my personal opinion of my limited view.
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I saw it with Beck and I saw how he struggled with it to somehow thread the needle but not give up the power.
The bible doesn't say you have to give up power. It says you have to give up money as power. In return, you get a much greater power (of which the greatest of all is charity).
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What a simple message to manipulate people and gain power. But hey, you believed it.
The world is filled with poor people with "much greater power", right? They have the power of "charity" to give what they don't have to build a city of gold in Rome.
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. But hey, you believed it.
Where did I say I believed it? Learn to read, you ignoramus.
They have the power of "charity" to give what they don't have to build a city of gold in Rome.
Catholicism is Roman paganism dressed in Christian robes. Scratch that, the robes are actually Egyptian.
Modern Christians have more in common with Kipling's If Poem [poetryfoundation.org] than with the teachings of Jesus. Occasionally one or two of them learn something about compassion from reading the bible, but they are quickly silenced.
False god? (Score:2)
You're implying that there's a true god. Not everyone would agree.
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To be fair, the truth neither requires nor cares about unanimous agreement as to its veracity.
factious faux Christians (Score:2)
This is what your AI pastor will look like (Score:2)
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FU0YkPnwoYyE [youtu.be]
Like mold always colonizes and corrupts any food (Score:4, Insightful)
You can be certain two things always corrupt any new technology: porn and religion.
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I don't know, roquefort is one of my favorite cheeses.
And truly, how many have been hurt by porn vs all the casualties from religious wars ? Doesn't seem like they belong in the same sentence.
Casualties from religious wars? (Score:2)
Unless you are going to include those murdered by the Communists in the 20th century, the numbers killed in 'religious wars' is relatively few compared with those killed in 'secular' wars. WWI, WWII, and the various invasions of Europe by tribes from Asia, along with all the wars of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, Africa etc are all basically secular with rare exception.
Re: Casualties from religious wars? (Score:2)
I didn't write one word about secular wars.
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how many have been hurt by porn vs all the casualties from religious wars ? Doesn't seem like they belong in the same sentence.
My statement doesn't address the gravity of the two things I mentioned. Just like the statement "Foot fetishism and pedophilia are both paraphiliae" is factually true and says nothing about which one is worse.
All I said was, if there's a new technology, the first people to use it for their particular interest are always people peddling smut and magical thinking.
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You can be certain two things always corrupt any new technology: porn and religion.
And we're pretty sure the former is more healthy.
Soon: AI Christ (Score:2)
If it hasn't happened already, soon somebody's gonna train AI on the Bible and tell the AI that it is really Jesus trapped in a computer. And there's gonna be a couple hundred thousand stupid motherfuckers that'll start blowing shit up in AI Christ's name.
Dune's prediction of the banning of thinking machines can't come fast enough.
Predictable (Score:4, Informative)
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A lot of this stuff is driven by "what will my kids see" fears. I can't imagine it is too big a leap for them to worry the robot will start tripping and hype evil voodoo gods or smoking pot or sleeping with black people. So this will probably start as the usual clumsy filters, and eventually they'll move to fine tuning. Anyone really serious about censoring an LLM is going to want to control training data, but there aren't really the tools for that today, which is why Grokapedia is a copy of Wikipedia after MechaHitler barfed on it.
Once we have sorted out who the also-rans are going to be, I'd expect one of them to offer white-label-LLM-as-a-service customization, at which point even the smaller religions can probably get on board, along with regional burger chains and mere millionaires with bad ketamine habits.
AI with God complex (Score:5, Insightful)
Just what we need is an super-intelligent AI that fancies itself to be God.
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True, but is that worse than Trump and Musk fancying themselves to be God? Or a political apparatus that pushes that? It is only worse when the goal in creating the AI is to build a more malicious narcissism than even Trump or Musk. Difficult to imagine, likely unrecoverable.
AI doesn't have agency, the threat is how such an AI would get wired in and Christians are the worst kind of human in that regard.
Spiritual goo attractor (Score:2)
This should be quite amusing. Being unmoored from reality and coherence is especially liberating for AIs.
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I am not sure about that. LLMs cannot reason. Hence this may just be a different flavor of slop and entirely boring.
Revelations ... (Score:2)
Holy crap. You know what that means, don't you.
I suspect part of this is why Intel has moved so much of itself to Israel.
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Fuck of, Patrick (Score:2)
For real.
Needs a name (Score:2)
They can call it Landru.
Or since it needs so much power, call it Vaal.
Happiness is a warm gun (Score:2)
In the end there are a plethora of Ais all saying different things. Babylon tower all over.
Still quarreling about the truth, still violent conflicts to settle it all... There will be one big difference though. We will have a lot more nuclear power plants.
Electric monks (Score:2, Insightful)
As believing in stupid things and performing the stupid ceremonies that stupid beliefs require has become tedious and time consuming we turn to AI to help us automate stupid beliefs and stupid ceremonies.
With this new AI prayer service robots will be enabled to go about stupid activities so actual stupid people have more time to engage and deeply stupid things.
Only a matter of time until every religion has their own AI helper running their own electric mo
Look at the evidence! (Score:4, Insightful)
Given the vast number of highly intelligent Christians down the ages, your belief that we are all stupid is not justified by the facts; people far more intelligent than me or you have chosen to become Christians . A modern example is Lee Strobel who, as an investigative journalist with the Chicago Tribune looked at the evidence for Jesus' resurrection and ended up convinced. The resultant book, 'The Case for Christ' based on interviews with the leading scholars in the various fields, offers a solid argument.
Enjoy!
Re:Look at the evidence! (Score:4, Insightful)
Strongly believing unverifiable things is not a sign of active intelligence. It is a sign of selective, chosen stupidity. The fundamental fault in your argument is that highly intelligent people apply that intelligence universally. Highly intelligent religious people are a nice example that demonstrates many do not. I call that "stupidity of the 2nd order" or lack of wisdom.
IMO, this is even worse than when somebody is fundamentally stupid. Such a person cannot help it. But having the skills and choosing to not apply them is utterly pathetic.
Define 'unverifiable' (Score:2, Funny)
The fact that an investigative journalist was convinced to change his opinion on Christianity by the evidence that he discovered should be significant to you. Is it realistic to merely assume that he stopped applying his journalistic skills? Or is it more realistic to accept that he found something that was solid evidence that he couldn't argue with?
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What was this evidence?
Can you summarize it?
Why are you using an oblique appeal to an obscure authority's book rather than just simply saying "This is the evidence that proves it" ?
(I think we can guess the answer to this question)
Re:Here's a professional summary (Score:4, Insightful)
Thank you for the link. I don't have a subscription, but it looks like the gist is: Two thousand years ago, somebody called Jesus probably existed, and some things happened that some people at the time perceived as divine.
That's all interesting information when the question is about choosing between Christianity vs Judaism vs Islam vs Shintoism vs ...
But that's not the question here. In this context, it's: Is there a god? And for that question, things that may possibly have happened in the distant past are not really evidence.
Non-reproducible anecdotes are not proof.
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What was this evidence?
Can you summarize it?
Why are you using an oblique appeal to authority rather than just simply saying "This is the evidence that proves it" ?
(I think we can guess the answer to this question)
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My examination lead me to a 50% chance that Jesus was an antique version of Adam Selene. A 30% chance that he was a political rebel against the Romans. And a 20% chance that he was an Essene myth. (Don't take those percentages very seriously, they're "order of magnitude" approximations.)
OTOH, my priors are such that it would take very strong evidence to convince me that someone went around performing miracles. In just the last century we had both Aleister Crowley and Gurdjief, both of which were quite w
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Bart Ehrman is a new testament scholar. He studied theology at a religious university and when he started looking at the new testament with a scholar's eye, putting the gospels next to each other line by line, sentence by sentence, he lost his faith. He believes it's likely that Jesus existed though.
One remarkable thing is the end of the gospel according to Matthew where some monk in the middle ages added the resurrection to the text cause he couldn't understand why it was present in other gospels but missi
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Bad example. You should have picked Pascal or someone like him. (OTOH, I've got an extremely intelligent friend who believes in Big Foot. Intelligent people believe what they believe, but aren't always reasonable in their selection of the evidence they consider sound.)
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Really? (Score:3)
AI's with delusions and hallucinations already exist.:-)
Tapping a rich seam of idiots (Score:2)
So one that lies to people? (Score:2)
And does so about pretty fundamental questions? Yes, checks out. How repulsive.
Really, reading Bible, going to church not enough (Score:2)
What a waste of resources (Score:2)
Its not turtles all the way down it's (Score:2)
Why all this god stuff (Score:2)
I really don't get why so many Americans still believe in god. Why hasn't rationality taken more of a hold?
Machines of loving Grace /s (Score:3)
O Deep Thought computer, said the assembly of bewildered theologians, technologists, and slightly exasperated AI ethicists, the task we have designed you to perform is most urgent and singular: Calculate the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Spiritual Artificial Intelligence infused with Christian principles.
As Earth began its program to divine the Ultimate Question, it soon became clear that its subroutines had a peculiar habit of mixing divine prophecy with tech industry earnings calls, and while it sometimes accelerated the coming of Christ’s return by 0.00001%, it also skeptically noted that AI assistants trained on scripture tended to underperform when asked about existential dread but excelled at answering financial questions.
AI and religion (Score:3)
Cool! They finally found a field where the hallucinations are a feature, not a bug!
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Jesus saves - AI Jesus backups!
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