DOJ Seizes $15 Billion In Bitcoin From Massive 'Pig Butchering' Scam Based In Cambodia (cnbc.com) 70
The U.S. Department of Justice seized about $15 billion in bitcoin from wallets tied to Chen Zhi, founder of Cambodia's Prince Holding Group, who is accused of running one of the world's biggest "pig butchering" scams. Prosecutors say Zhi's network trafficked people into forced-labor scam compounds that defrauded victims worldwide through fake crypto investment schemes. CNBC reports: The seizure is the largest forfeiture action by the DOJ in history. An indictment charging the alleged pig butcher, Chen Zhi, was unsealed Tuesday in federal court in Brooklyn, New York. Zhi, who is also known as "Vincent," remains at large, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York. He was identified in court filings as the founder and chairman of Prince Holding Group, a multinational business conglomerate based in Cambodia, which prosecutors said grew "in secret .... into one of Asia's largest transnational criminal organizations. [...]
The scams duped people contacted via social media and messaging applications online into transferring cryptocurrency into accounts controlled by the scheme with false promises that the crypto would be invested and produce profits, according to the office. "In reality, the funds were stolen from the victims and laundered for the benefit of the perpetrators," the release said. "The scam perpetrators often built relationships with their victims over time, earning their trust before stealing their funds."
Prosecutors said that hundreds of people were trafficked and forced to work in the scam compounds, "often under the threat of violence." Zhi and a network of top executives in the Prince Group are accused of using political influence in multiple countries to protect their criminal enterprise and paid bribes to public officials to avoid actions by law enforcement authorities targeting the scheme, according to prosecutors.
The scams duped people contacted via social media and messaging applications online into transferring cryptocurrency into accounts controlled by the scheme with false promises that the crypto would be invested and produce profits, according to the office. "In reality, the funds were stolen from the victims and laundered for the benefit of the perpetrators," the release said. "The scam perpetrators often built relationships with their victims over time, earning their trust before stealing their funds."
Prosecutors said that hundreds of people were trafficked and forced to work in the scam compounds, "often under the threat of violence." Zhi and a network of top executives in the Prince Group are accused of using political influence in multiple countries to protect their criminal enterprise and paid bribes to public officials to avoid actions by law enforcement authorities targeting the scheme, according to prosecutors.
Good work! (Score:5, Insightful)
Congratulations to the DOJ for doing serious damage to one of the most vile criminal enterprises of our time. They hit slavery, fraud, and graft in one fell swoop. At a time when the DOJ is being abused for shameless political vendettas it’s nice to see real good work being done.
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Now he can build a second ball room and paint this one blue.
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Yes, they got private keys (Score:5, Informative)
Because Zhi is not in custody, and the same second link doesnt say anything about anyone going into a home or compound *and instead* alleges Zhi 'maintained documents describing and depicting "phone farms"' kind of makes it sound like no one ever went to Cambodia and Google just let them into his gdrive, etc. https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.justice.gov%2Fopa%2Fpr... [justice.gov]
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Of course, there's the possibility he had his GDrive set to download his files to the local drive.
You can argue encryption and doing it all through the "cloud"... you open a webpage, at least a bit of it is on your computer.
Of course... no encryption is 100% secure... 'I encrypt this post with something... you can't look at it without the key, so either I have to send the key to you or it has to be included in the header or something'
Like I've said before, the governments have the decryption keys... would a
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It would be interesting to know how DOJ got access to the wallets but TFA doesn't say.
Yeah, I thought one of the major selling points of crypto was that it couldn't be seized by the government. Obviously, there's still the $5 wrench attack (which is actually a $21 wrench [homedepot.com] these days, thanks inflation), but having multiple crypto wallets would mean you could just surrender the one with the least amount of coin in it and deny any knowledge of the keys to the other wallets.
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A properly deployed wrench attack will result in you surrendering all your keys.
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:Most crypto selling points are made up by people who wanna sell you crypto.
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You got proof to back that claim up?
It's wonderful how TDS works!
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TDS? I don't think we need to bring the ability to believe la Presidenta into this.
While we're at it, why were underage girls working the "spa" at la Presidenta's Pleasure Palace? Why was he upset that Epstein stole some of his "girls"? We know what some of the girls were doing for Epstein. What were they doing for la Presidenta? Why is he fighting tooth and nail to keep the Epstein docs under the grimy hands of his "justice" department?
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And when those teenagers go to work somewhere else, that's normal and not a reason to be upset, unless there is some other special attachment that Trump had to those who leave. You know there is something called guilt by association, but also, based by the relationship those have with criminals.
So, Trump and Epstein, very close for a long time, it was well documented that Trump would travel with Epstein as well, so, suddenly, Trump claims that he had no idea what Epstein was doing for all that time, and t
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Who knows for sure... maybe Trump was there as a double agent... helping one of the three-letter agencies build a case.
Does he kiss little girls and pat their butts like Biden did?
You do realize that before releasing the Epstein stuff to press, they have to censor the names and stuff about each of the girls, and there is the little fact that not everyone in the "cabinet" or Senate or whatever wants the Epstein stuff released.
He isn't the 'AntiChrist' or anything.
Again... show me the proof (multiple sources,
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Maybe he wasn't... who knows?
Maybe you prefer Harris' approach better... open the borders and let the cartels and gangs run free.
But, being that nobody wants to back up their words with proof, I consider the matter closed.
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it could, but it wont.
It will go to the US Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and Digital Asset Stockpile which the president created earlier this year. It was created with the express purpose of utilizing the cryptocurrencies seized by US law enforcement.
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Re: Good work! (Score:1)
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Under Biden. His DoJ got raked over the coals mercilessly for not going after la Presidenta soon enough. And when they did over the top secret files he kept and showed to others without security clearance (and after leaving office so he should never have had them), they caught that slimeball red-handed and it took a crooked judge, whom he appointed and who was bucking for a position in his administration were he to be elected, to extract his tail from that crack. In doing so, she ginned up some new legal bu
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Re:Good work! [But whose?] (Score:2)
Did you read the entire story, follow the links, and also "do your own research"?
No, I'm not going to bother with so much work, but on the face of it, it seems the story just says they "captured" some of the loot. I'm pretty sure they didn't go to Cambodia and arrest anyone and don't even want to speculate how the passwords and account information were obtained. Near as I can tell, what the story means is that they were able to transfer a bunch of cryptocurrency into their control, but I don't even believe
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Congratulations to the DOJ for doing serious damage to one of the most vile criminal enterprises of our time. They hit slavery, fraud, and graft in one fell swoop. At a time when the DOJ is being abused for shameless political vendettas itâ(TM)s nice to see real good work being done.
Eh? All that happened was the dude failed to pay off the right people in Congress. Yes, the DOJ can do good things. No, the DOJ will not do good things if certain people ask it not to do so. An investment of less than 10% of his fortune would have yielded a free pass for his crimes in the USA. Some people never learn.
This is what Bitcoin became (Score:4, Insightful)
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This is what crypto is meant for.
Had a friend near there. (Score:5, Informative)
He was part of a Christian mission group trying to rescue people who were trafficked.
Victims land in Thailand thinking they have a job, get on the bus, then bus goes on a ferry and suddenly they are a lawless no mans land.
60 minutes did a story on this not long ago.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F... [youtube.com]
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Stronger punishment is the smaller part of the equation of deterrence. It's the feeling of risk versus the likelihood of getting caught.
We need to encourage improvements in enforcing the rule of law and good international police partnership. At the same time without discouraging infringing liberties and privacy. Simply being harder on crime doesn't solve the problem.
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As I see it, there are two reasons for capital punishment. One is t
greed (Score:2)
So they seized 23 bitcoin? (Score:2)
Or what is the current bitcoin rate again?
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It gets worse, the Argentina deal recently concluded was a $20 Billion currency swap; they hold U.S. dollars and the U.S. get sto hold Argentina pesos, the latter will not hold their value for long. Why would he do that other than Milei butters his ass? As usual with el Bunko, follow the money. It turns out that Scott Bessent, our alleged Treasury (Treasure?) Secretary, is in bed with three cryptocurrency honchos. They helped Milei launch his country's cryptocurrency, and el Bunko (or his kids) bought in as
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Cash it in... (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah, the coins stolen need to be returned to the victims. After that, you'd have $X billion left over. What if all of that was sold off for real dollars? I wonder how much the value of bitcoins would plummet? I ask because I've heard it's got such a high value because the bulk of it is held making it scarce, so selling a lot of it would be ... interesting. After all, you can't really fund anything if it's not converted to cold hard cash.
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Thank God for crypto (Score:2)
If there were no crypto, these scams would be so much harder.
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Which are far harder to pull off without being tracked down.
Note to self: Retire from scams with $1'000'000 (Score:2)
Piggish Butch-trolls (yum) Live Feed (Score:1)
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Highly Effective in Strong Crosswinds (Score:1)
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Opportunity for some US/China collaboration (Score:4, Interesting)
These criminal enterprises in the Golden Triangle area that involve defrauding people (as opposed to the ones that involve, say, drug trafficking) are often using enslaved Chinese citizens to defraud other Chinese citizens. The Chinese (PRC) Government is actually concerned about this, as the fraud levelshat h are high enough to cause domestic discontent.
This would be an actual opportunity for the US Government to build some collaboration, instead of conflict, with the PRC Government over an issue that they are both concerned about and that has no domestic downside for either of them... if they wanted to. Especially, if the US wanted to.
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They almost certainly already agreed to only target westerners, operating with permission and already fled to China to escape prosecution to begin with.
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fglobalinitiative.net%2Fa... [globalinitiative.net]
What of the victims (Score:2)
But the summary is light on details about the victims. Are the "pigs" that got scammed going to get any remuneration from that $15B? Are the trafficked operators still enslaved?
It also doesn't mention any other penalties. Zhi is still at large. (And, if he was has any intelligence, has enough wealth stashed away to live the high life in any number of criminal-hiding countries). Are any other members of the Prince organiza
apart from might makes right (Score:2)
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Some of the victims of the scam were US citizens. This gives the US Department of Justice a responsibility to investigate and to shut down the scammers if they can.
The investigators determined that these assets are the proceeds of the scam, and that seizing these assets will significantly impact the scammers ability to continue scamming. So the DoJ attorney goes to a Judge and lays out this logic and asks for a seizure order. Judge agrees, and it happens.
The article is specifically about the seizure of t
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