What is your VR system of choice?
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What is your VR system of choice?
I consider a new device or technology to have been culturally accepted when it has been used to commit a murder. -- M. Gallaher
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What is your favorite unicode character?
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What is your favorite unicode character?
You are truly evil.
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What is your favorite unicode character?
The one that Bill Murray played in... what was that film again, the one with the golf player.
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Yep, I believe the first 128 unicode characters are identical to ASCII, and even most of the common so-called "extended ASCII" characters ended up somewhere in the unicode tables.
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Microcontroller of choice?
AVR
MSP
PIC
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Architecture of choice:
- x86
- AMD64
- 68000
- 6502
- Z80
- Alpha
- MIPS
- Itanium
- ARM
- AVR
- PDP-11
- SPARC
- CompuTRON 9000
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A) Graphics/Computing Power, Energy Efficiency, Cost
B) Graphics/Computing Power, Cost, Energy Efficiency
C) Cost, Graphics/Computing Power, Energy Efficiency
D) Cost, Energy Efficiency, Graphics/Computing Power
E) Energy Efficiency, Cost, Graphics/Computing Power
F) Energy Efficiency, Graphics/Computing Power, Cost
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When I was younger, I would build powerful gaming machines that would put off lots of heat under the strain of trying to play the latest games at the highest settings. I think I had a 900w power supply at one point.
As time went on and I had less time for games, I had a back log of games that I felt I had to play. This means that I was playing games released 2-3 years ago which means I needed less power. I also started saving to buy a house, so I wanted to reduce my electricity bi
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C is for Cookie, dats good enuff for me!
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Not really - you can dissipate arbitrarily large amounts of heat arbitrarily quietly, so long as you're willing to pay an arbitrarily large amounts to do so.
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Have you guys done the math on what happens to your revenue stream if we stop allowing AC posts? I realize that there is a small percentage of people and a small percentage of stories where it would be important to post as an AC, but my feeling about that is if it is important to say you can create a burner account to say it. I'm not sure if you've noticed but the trolling and flaming has achieved some kind of new low here these days. Most ACs are just here to fuck with us because it is easy and they get
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Favourite Slashdot meme?
- Hot gritz
- In Soviet Russia meme favourites you
- OMG ponies!
- Imagine a Beowulf cluster of memes
- Bill Gates of Borg
- APK hosts file
- I for one welcome our new overlords
- Buck Feta
- SJWs
- Cowboy Neil
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What's your favorite text editor?
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Notepad, Windows 3.0 edition. Real men get the job done *despite* their tools.
Though there are limits. Even real men avoid edlin whenever possible.
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Edlin is better then most, at least it never crashed. Any you where always sure of what you could do (very limited set of options).
Now say the same of M$ Word...
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Here's a poll question:
How should we train our children to treat others non-violently?
1. Teach them to treat others properly.
2. Teach them appropriate ways to solve disputes.
3. Set a good example in the way we treat others.
4. Forbid violent games and TV shows.
5. Take them to a hospital, to see the result of violent behavior.
6. Take them to a prison, to see what happens to violent criminals.
7. Decrease their stress levels (make sure they get enough sleep, don't demand perfection).
8. Other.
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8. "Buy a gun, you metrosexual"
(That line was the best troll in Slashdot's entire history.)
Possible poll? (Score:2)
Which change would most improve the moderation of comments on slashdot?
I could compile a long list of possibilities, but not motivated beyond "Two-way linkage of karma and moderation".
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Make metamoderation meaningful again.
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I suppose I deserve that for the lack of clarity in my only suggested alternative (linking karma and moderation in both directions), but what do you mean? I've been using slashdot for many years, and I never was able to figure out ANY meaning of metamoderation. Maybe there were some explanatory statistics published someplace?
From a mathematical perspective, the only thing I could imagine was that the metamoderation was intended to validate the moderation in some way, but since it was done in a context-free
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Just add a -1 Disagree mod. Instead of actually subtracting one from the post being moderated, it would delete all your remaining mod points and ensure you never get any more, and then take you to the reply form do you can learn how to disagree properly.
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Trying to make sure I understand your suggestion accurately because your implicit subject and pronoun references seem quite unclear, but I still don't see how to condense it to an option to include on a poll about how to improve moderation. In that context, perhaps the poll option would be "Focus on improving metamoderation."
I think you are saying "The metamoderator should have a -1 Disagree metamoderation option, which would delete any current mod points held by the person who gave the bad moderation and p
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To clarify, I'm saying there should be a "trap" mod of "-1 Disagree". Whenever someone tries to abuse the moderation system by modding someone they disagree with down and selects this modifier, they will be redirected to post a reply instead. And maybe have all their mod points burned too. And maybe never get any more.
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Now I think your suggestion was some kind of joke. It seems easier to simply require all slashdot users to download a mind reading app so their smartphone can authenticate their deepest motivations while they are replying.
I think it's funny when honest people claim they can detect liars. If they are sincere, how would they know anything about insincerity?
Actually reminds me of one time in a Japanese language class when these two Scottish engineers were trying to convince me to work on the solution to a trul
Suggesting polls doesn't seem to do any good. (Score:2)
Google Cardboard (Score:5, Insightful)
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We got one free in the mail since we subscribe to the New York Times.
I played with the Samsung version in a Verizon store - obviously a lot more polished, but it isn't compatible with my S5, so it is kind of academic right now.
At the end of the day it comes down to content. There are a handful of neat things out there, but you can quickly exhaust the list and then what do you do? I am not into games very much, so those don't count.
Missing option (Score:4, Interesting)
Missing option: Real Life
Porn stars are expensive. (Score:1)
Missing option: Real Life
I WISH! But I can't afford the $5,000 for my porn star of choice to make a private movie with me. And after that $5,000 is blown, that's it.
I least with a VR system, I can load it up with my favorite stars and keep coming.
VR all the way baby!
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I have both Oculus and Vive... and a real life.... not everyone can do that I guess.
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Rift is better hardware, Vive is more fun experience. I own both. I would recomend the Vive today. That may change when Oculus Touch comes out though.
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I am trialing Real Life right now. You have to give it to the developers: fantastic graphics. Best I've ever seen actually, by far. Other than the graphics though, it's a bit of a slog. You end up sitting in the same place ("office") for most of the time and there is no real story development. RL also has a driving simulator, which again has fantastic graphics, but it is not very challenging. You only need to find your way "home" and spend most of the time waiting for the other cars on the road to move so you can move as well. Once you are in the place called "home" it is actually not too bad, there is even a pretty girl there. But other than that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone used to the faster paced games with much worse graphics.
Other than the graphics being fantastic, the controls are confusing, the tutorial lasts around 18 years and even after that you've no idea what to do or how to win, most of the characters are dicks as well.
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Second Life jokes! That would have been so hilarious in 2007!
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Pardon me,
You're funny because what you're talking about has no relevancy to what the adults are talking about!
Re:Great for you ! (Score:5, Funny)
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somehow a while after getting the Pretty Girl DLC I got the Baby DLC for free (must have been a promotion).
Ha, you might think the Baby DLC was free but it's loaded with micro-transactions!
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Missing option: Real Life
So for your virtual reality you just want reality? Well that's out already.
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Obligatory : http://3d.xkcd.com/ [xkcd.com]
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Neither can a book. Do you sneer at people who read?
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Please learn the difference between "Free to do it if you like" and "Free to ram it down other people's throats".
Hint: One of these things you are, and one of them you aren't.
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> Cost=$0
Last time I checked, fishing gear cost money. I mean you could find your own bait if you set up cricket traps or dug up your own worms, but lines, poles, tackle boxes usually cost money (unless you find someone throwing that stuff away on Freecycle or Craigslist)
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Also annual fishing license in many places.
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Missing option: Real Life
100 percent agreed. VR cannot duplicate the experience of fishing out at the side of a riverbank on a warm summer's evening, listening to the sounds of nature, and the breeze blowing through the trees in live surround sound, breathing fresh air, and sipping an ice cold beer.
When VR can do that, I might buy it. Until then, screw it, I'm going fishing. Cost=$0
Going fishing isn't virtual reality that's real reality and it's boring as fuck.
Other (Score:4)
My imagination.
Other: (Score:1)
Viewmaster looks really cool.
I'll take the winner's device (Score:2, Insightful)
It went from the Rift to Cardboard to all of these VR headsets on the list. So far no one has anything "amazing" that I must have, and I have not seen the game content for any of these systems either.
I will be waiting for something to happen before I decide. Maybe Sony and Samsung bails, maybe Oculus (now Facebook owned) collects too much data and throws in Facebook Ads into my games (I'm stretching, but don't say you haven't thought of that).
Until some games are exclusive or some major games come to some o
No "playstation" of the VR yet. (Score:2)
If compared to the 3D graphics on consoles, i would say that Oculus is the Atari jaguar (pure hype but not exactly there), HTC vive is the 3DO (almost there, but still very, very expensive) and Playstation VR is the 32x or SuperFX chip (Expansion for an existing system, will most likely have the best games of the bunch, but its the worse specs wise).
So, if it repeats itself, we end getting up a 299 system that delivers a much better image quality and games than everything else using some truly innovative id
This is like asking "Verite 3D or 3DFX Voodoo?" (Score:5, Insightful)
Version 1 and 2 of these things are going to be bunk. Slashdot is a mostly older nerd crowd, we've probably all been burnt as early adopters before. Even if we did early adopt the "good" version, 2 replacements better from the same company was vastly superior.
VR Headsets will be better in literally every possible way and cheaper in less than say 4 years. Possibly vastly better.
I'm happy to let the next generation of kids and young adults with huge amounts of disposable income do the beta testing.
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Version 1 and 2 of these things are going to be bunk. Slashdot is a mostly older nerd crowd, we've probably all been burnt as early adopters before. Even if we did early adopt the "good" version, 2 replacements better from the same company was vastly superior.
VR Headsets will be better in literally every possible way and cheaper in less than say 4 years. Possibly vastly better.
I'm happy to let the next generation of kids and young adults with huge amounts of disposable income do the beta testing.
exactly, The tech, processing power, resolution or FOV in every example has some limitations due to being early in the tech cycle and trying to make it affordable. Been burnt over the years too many times, happy to wait an extra couple of years and jump on the second or 3rd wave of this tech which should either have removed many of the limitations by then or else be a dead tech and in which case I saved $1000.
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I wasn't entirely sure how to respond to this post, but what you describe isn't being old. What you describe is being disinclined to try anything new. If you need someone to blaze the path for you and work out any kinks first, then that's cool. But don't confuse that with being old. Just because we're old doesn't mean we can't dive into this head-first, and in f
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I can't say I disagree with your angle on this, but since I'm older my priorities have changed in regards to gaming and tech, perhaps I'm even verging on not being a nerd anymore. I imagine with enough disposable time and income, age is, arguably mostly irrelevant. However I'd still wager that most people reading my post, despite probably making the most they've ever made in their lives, have less completely disposable cash and time than they used to.
Tinkering on the bleeding edge is fun as heck if you c
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I don't know, I'm getting older too and just don't want to miss anything. What if I'm not around in 4 years?
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The fun part is when I was younger, I had more time, but no money. Now I have the money, but no time.
That said I did pick up the DK2, when it was affordable ($350) and paired it with a midrange PC of the time and have been enjoying it. It was a shock to me when the consumer launch happened and everything got more expensive. I opeted out because I just don't have the time to spend to make that price tag worthwhile, and my DK2 is good enough for me for now anyway.
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In my experience, gamepad has been the main input favored by the games. VR games are by and large not interested in making people use keyboard blind (many can't do it) and since real-look replaces mouse-look, the downsides of a gamepad are mitigated.
Yes, there's lot's of hype around using motion controls, but I think ultimately the lazy will mostly win out and gamepad will dominate. It's cool and novel to use your hands really, but I suspect that'll get old real fast, since there's plenty of opportunity t
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Ohh they will be so much better in 4 years. Of course they are freaking amazing now, but yes, better in 4 years.
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Well that's easy. Voodoo.
(remembering being just blown away by GLQuake back in the day on my Vodoo1).
But yeah, it's funny how many people continue to think first-mover advantage exists in this industry. The market will happily trash the first mover at a hint of a marginally better competitor. AMD(ATI) and nVidia are the only players left, and neither were really part of the first wave.
Where's MasterSystem 3-D w/PowerGlove in VRML! (Score:2)
Old sk00l represent!
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btw, it really was the the shit back in the day...
http://devilmaster.altervista.org/rend386.html
Imagination... (Score:1)
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What are you talking about, the basic UI is almost identical to real life, though the live-editing tools admittedly have a steep learning curve.
Step 1: notice you're dreaming
Step 2: modify to taste
Step 3: avoid waking yourself up by applying too much attention
Rift (Score:1)
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Well, the hand controllers, and the room-scale tracking. From everything I've seen that's going to be extremely important to unleashing the full potential of VR, and the Rift just doesn't have a large enough tracking volume to cut it.
I don't have any first-hand VR experience either, but I do own a Wii (or VR 0.1 as my friends and I called it), and the physical immersion from large-scale motion is extremely compelling, even when staring at the back of your avatar's head on a screen. I suspect being able to
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Missing option (Score:2)
I believe it's still behind by a wide margin, but Razer OSVR (Open-Source Virtual Reality for Gaming) was left out. Does anyone have hands-on experience with it?
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Razer OSVR is why I clicked other.
Undecided - for now (Score:3)
I've been wanting to get into VR. But every platform has at least one seemingly-fatal problem right now:
Oculus: being evil with DRM, no motion controls yet
Gear: Underpowered, works only with certain phones
Vive: Weakest software support
PSVR: Not out yet, but likely to be underpowered (PS4 is well below Oculus/Vive req. specs, PS4NEO unknown), and likely to contain evil
Cardboard: Decent replacement for the View-Master but doesn't work for actual gaming
LG 360: Literally hadn't heard of it, which means the software is likely weak; also only works with certain phones
Vive has the easiest problems to overcome - just make more games for it. The SteamVR model seems like it could make VR cheap and standardized, which would make them the de facto PC VR platform. And I think I'd be happiest with Valve leading the VR industry.
PSVR has potential. They're going hard on the software side, and they have history of making good consumer hardware. I'm concerned about the horsepower - if they require VR games to be usable on the stock PS4, that's going to hamper game design, making my experience worse even if I get a NEO. And the NEO itself is an unknown.
Oculus has a head-start, and they're doing the best on average. Their software library is okay, their headset hardware is reportedly the best, and the motion controllers are coming soon. They're in a position where they could win. But they don't have enough of a lead for me to bet $700 that they'll win, and honestly? I don't want them to. I was willing to write off the concerns about Facebook buying them, but after that DRM stuff they decided to pull? I can no longer ignore them.
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For now, while the hype is VR gaming, I find 360 video the most compelling part of VR. It's extremely, bizarrely immersive. For this purpose, cell-phone based systems like the Gear or even cardboard are great. They have obvious room for improvement, but the viewing technology is basically there already. Anyway, a Cardboard is like $5, so if you are interested enough to spend 10 minutes writing out your post on Slashdot, just go ahead and buy one.
The larger issue is that to get high-quality video, you nee
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You can Ease your concerns on Vive software support. It is currently far stronger than any other VR platform.
HTC Vive is the only feasible system today. (Score:4, Informative)
HTC Vive is quite elaborate to set up, but it's the most viable system today.
They are ahead of the game by a generation. I wish for them it stays that way.
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VRbusters (Score:2)
I reject your virtual reality and substitute my own.
SGI Four Keg Virtual Reality Engine (Score:2)
Who cares? (Score:2)
Kickin' it old school (Score:2)
Eyephone and Data Glove.
Reality.... (Score:2)
...is my favorite faux reality.
VR5 (Score:2)
The only VR I appreciate is VR5.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01... [imdb.com]
It give a much cleaner experience than my Sino-logic 16 with Sogo-7 Data Gloves.
SD
None (Score:2)
I hang out in the RW, with all the rest of you meat.
mark
Field of vision not there yet (Score:2)
I love that the VR are starting to take off, but this "1st" commercial generation isn't perfect yet. My major complain so far is that the field of vision isn't perfect yet, you still have the feeling to look through a window (you can see the end of the field at the side of your view). That also mean that you cannot move your eye to the left to move your field of vision. This mean that you move your head a lot more that it should be.
Surprisingly thought, I forgot about it pretty fast as if you brain adapt to
Poll (Score:2)
Favorite bit:
- zero
- one
- Cowboy Neal
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That woulds be "I use Cowboy Neal in Feel-Around" - https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F... [youtube.com]
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Well I don't really believe in phone VR, and I have some real doubts that console VR is going to be worth a single buck, but Oculus and Vive are both really great products, and it really delivers on VR. It looks good, it is interactive and there are some fun demos. It came from the dead because finally the technology is there. I tried building this stuff as a college student in the late 90s, there was just no good solution. Things were too heavy, or too low resolution, or too slow or unwieldy.
The only valid
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The only valid pessimism at this moment is the lack of content
I disagree -- my pessimism about VR has nothing to do with content, and more to do with business models.
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How so? The high-end gaming peripheral market has consistently shown there's a sustainable, if small, market even for far more expensive hardware that yields much smaller incremental improvements in gaming experience. And of course there's the abundant professional applications to ensure a sustainable market for relatively low-priced hardware, even if adoption for gaming purposes falters.
And since the key components (screens, video cards, and motion tracking) are rapidly improving in cost and quality, la
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Because I fear that VR is largely going to follow the same business models as high-end video games or the likes of Facebook (requiring the use of the cloud, company-owned servers, and tracking). My pessimism is not that these models won't work from the point of view of the VR companies. It's that I think they will.
I'm pessimistic from a personal point of view because if that's the way things go then VR is something that will remain unacceptable to me no matter how incredible the hardware or content is. And
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Ah, well on that front I can't argue.
On the "plus" side for VR enthusiasts - it currently appears that *all* popular computing is heading that direction, so unless we're planning to give up computing entirely, we may as well enjoy VR :-/
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3D flopped. Manufacturers are looking for the "next big thing" to get people to prematurely part with their money to be one of the cool kids.
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My hero.