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Preferred Type of Game?
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One of the best card games... (Score:1)
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My friends and I play a variation of this where all players bid at the same time - close your hand, pump twice and on three then show the number of fingers that is your bid. If the total matches the exact number of tricks, the dealer must change their bid up or down by one. This method stops players from reconsidering their bid based on other players. It also leads to some occasions where we are overbid or underbid by several tricks.
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My friends and I play a variation of this where all players bid at the same time - close your hand, pump twice and on three then show the number of fingers that is your bid. If the total matches the exact number of tricks, the dealer must change their bid up or down by one. This method stops players from reconsidering their bid based on other players. It also leads to some occasions where we are overbid or underbid by several tricks.
...But IMO this is one of the best aspects of trick-based card games, and part of the overall strategy. By rotating the dealer every hand everybody gets the chance to be the first and last bidder.
Second person to vote for card games here (Score:2)
Card games sound the coolest, making you think of movies, smoke, poker, baccarat, Bond, etc.
Sadly my vote was for solitaire on the Nexus 7...
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Card games sound the coolest, making you think of movies, smoke, poker, baccarat, Bond.
And my grand mother, and her friends in the card club, etc..
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Of course, this crowd is more likely to think of Magic the Gathering...
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actually, Magic and Hold'em are both among my favorite card games; and I have hosted both as a regular weekly event. Ended poker a while ago for various reasons but, still like the game. Hell, we were just talking about calling together a tournament for all the old players who came to the old game. (last time I did that, I needed multiple tables)
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Gotta admit, I do feel cool playing hold'em while drinking scotch and smoking a Cuban cigar. But I voted for board games, cause, Catan.
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I wanted Role Playing Games too, so clicked the option "pen & pencil" as being the closest, although having the word "dice" in there would have helped.
REAL Missing option (Score:2)
Mind Games
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I think that falls under paper & pencil.
Unless it is in the bedroom.
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At which point it's a physical (and psychological) game; at least if you are doing it right. :)
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We also included bong hits in treasure.
Modern board games (Score:5, Interesting)
To those of you still thinking "Monopoly", "Risk" and "Stratego" when you hear about board games, it's time to catch up with the present day. Strategic board games ("eurogames") have taken a huge flight over the last 15 years, and modern examples are vastly more enjoyable to play than the games you remember from your youth.
Settlers of Catan, you've probably heard about, but that was just the game which enabled the genre; honored for it, but otherwise left behind as a deeply flawed example of what a truly strategic board game should be. Instead, try Splendor [boardgamegeek.com] or Village [boardgamegeek.com] for a good introduction of the genre, after that move up in complexity to Five Tribes [boardgamegeek.com] or Concordia [boardgamegeek.com] , and end with Power Grid [boardgamegeek.com] or Terra Mystica [boardgamegeek.com] to enjoy the peaks of modern board games, where how you do at a game depends entirely on your own skills and insight, rather than on luck.
(Obviously, as with everything, tastes differ. The above games should appeal to a wide range of people, but it's possible you might be more into games oozing with theme, or rather games like Chess and Go that really make you think, where theme is of no importance. (Try Yedo [boardgamegeek.com] or YINSH [boardgamegeek.com] respectively.) But that's the good thing about modern board games; they're popular to such a degree that there's something for everyone's tastes.)
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Settlers of Catan, you've probably heard about, but that was just the game which enabled the genre; honored for it, but otherwise left behind as a deeply flawed example of what a truly strategic board game should be.
While I agree with the general premise, you manage to give Catan both too much and too little credit. It was definitely not the first game in the genre, though it was probably the one that brought it to mainstream attention. But I don't agree with your statement that it is deeply flawed. I still find the basic game a lot of fun to play.
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Hence me writing "enabled", rather than "started". Without the success of Settlers, there wouldn't have been enough of a market, most current-day boardgame designers wouldn't have been designing board games, most board game publishers wouldn't exist, etc.
Good for you. But with
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What you list as "deeply flawed" items in Settlers may all be items that other make people enjoy it.
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Good chaos comes from player actions. Bad chaos comes from random dice rolls.
Trivia - We never play Cathan because luck is too big a factor : player A always win every game he plays, player B lose every game he plays. The only time player A lost was when player B purposefully selected the same numbers. They both lost.
Now, compare this from Puerto Rico which needs no dice to bring chaos, or Ra which manages to be fair even if utterly random.
To take a computer game analogy, if a player is unbeatable at Mortal
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I never got into those board games since I loved video games (mostly computers). I wonder if I would like these.
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If the video games you play are strategy ones, especially turned based like Civ, then there's a good likelihood you'll like strategy board games (which is what he's basically talking about although, as mentioned above, he's way off about Settlers and time lines)
If you're an FPS player the odds are a bit less but there could still be some appeal. I've been surprised by some of the people my friends and I have gotten into these games. Really it's the social dynamic that makes it great. Any time you can get a
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I like action, real-time, etc. Turn based are OK. However, I am starting to like them because I am so BUSY with life. Like card games online in IRC like Uno that can go for days and even went over a week. Haha.
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Yeah, socialization is my weakness because of disabilities. I did play a lot of single player games. When I discovered BBSes and Internet, socialization grew. Also, online multiplayer.
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Your post makes me crazy!
"Strategic board games ("eurogames")": Eurogames are strategy board games done in a European style. There is also an American style and you can often tell the difference pretty quickly. Basically, Eurogames are a sub genre of strategy board games. They are deffinitly not the same thing.
"Settlers of Catan, you've probably heard about, but that was just the game which enabled the genre; honored for it, but otherwise left behind as a deeply flawed example of what a truly strategic boar
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Carcassonne (this is a classic along with Settlers)
Ticket to ride (maps for US, Europe, Africa, Asia, etc...)
Kill Dr. Lucky
Quantum
Five Tribes
Takenoko
Edo
Cooperative games:
Pandemic
Lord of the Rings
Red November
Forbidden Desert
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As for Kill Dr. Lucky, Titanic games licensed it and produced a really nice version of it. When my original KDL game fell apart from use I bought this and tucked in all the paper expansions.
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Transforms some of the deck-building and card-action techniques from CCGs like Magic: The Gathering into a common game by using a common set of cards. "Buying" and otherwise acquiring your desired collection is the early part of the game, using it is the middle, and "selling" or otherwise sacrificing cards for final points is part of the end. The difference is that it's not about money buying a winning hand, because everyone starts with the same amount of "mon
Slashdot trollin' game (Score:1)
Obvious missing option.
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You're playing right now, aren't you?
Games? (Score:2)
Psycho ex-girlfriends... (Score:5, Funny)
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Thrones (Score:3)
Or "Mind"
Poker (Score:2)
A true game of skill.
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You've shown you lie, you probably cheat as well.
exactly (Score:2)
Yes, deception is the key, like all good games.
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Bluffing in poker is generally acceptable, cheating at cards isn't, nor is making a general practice of lying which seems to be an ever present temptation for you.
By the way, you don't have some affiliation with "climate science" by any chance, do you?
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What do you mean?
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Games are over (Score:1)
Gamers are dead!
Everyone who plays games hates women! If you don't agree, you hate women! If you are a women, that goes double! We'll ban you from the internet For Great Social Justice!
ARGs (Score:2)
Board games are forever... (Score:5, Interesting)
About 10 years ago or so, I started diverting my gaming money from video games to board games.
Here are some reasons off the top of my head why board games are better.
#1 - Buy one copy of the game, good for as many players as it supports, no need for each player to buy a copy
#2 - Very portable - toss it on the back seat - and you're good to go anywhere there is enough light and a table.
#3 - Longevity - my 10 year old copy of Robo Rally is just as fun now as it was 10 years ago when I bought it. And I fully expect to be able to play it in 10 years from now, and it will be just as much fun.
Good luck doing that with a video game.
#4 - No DRM preventing me from buying or selling used games - if for some reason I tired of a board game, I can easily put it on eBay and the buyer is guaranteed to be able to play the game - assuming they can read the language the directions are in.
#5 - Home rules - don't like the way a video game plays? tough - unless you can find a mod that changes it. With a board game - just home rule what your group doesn't enjoy - and you're golden.
#6 - and finally - the social element.
Video games tend to physically isolate people from each other, board games have you all around the same table socializing, imbibing your beverages of choice and having a grand old time. Oh yeah, and getting some quality gaming in too.
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#4: I have also been involved with the board game scene. I have a bunch, and have attended BGGCON in TX several years in the past (from Canada), and well as more local events.
While I have been introduced and own a bunch of games, I had a friend go full on. Over the years he has probably amassed 4-500 games. Some games depreciate, others keep their value, and some actually increase, where they have gone out of print, or what have you. In all, with a growing number of fans, he could sell his games for quite a
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Some games depreciate, others keep their value, and some actually increase, where they have gone out of print, or what have you.
Full Métal Planète.
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Yea, I just got through pitching a bunch of old books and games that don't work on my computer any more but I have about 150' of RPGs and Board Games. Currently playing Mage Knight with my girlfriend (she insisted :) ).
[John]
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Both video games and board games can be very good. I've noticed years ago that there are so many games out there of all formats, that I will never have time to play them all so I've cut my budget in all gaming categories. I used to have boxes of rarely played board games (hello Die Macher) and gigabytes of rarely played video games (hello Theater of War). Now when I want to game I look through my library and play one of those. Most of the time I find something enjoyable to play (hello Baldur's Gate 2 I didn
golf (Score:2)
in any form is my favorite.
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You know, I can't stand playing it IRL (allergies + being outside + "Four hours? Seriously?"), but I adore video game golf. My personal favorite it Hot Shots Golf. It looks completely ridiculous, but I swear, there's a decent little golf sim in there.
Mario golf is also pretty good, IMHO.
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yeah i like the cartoony golf video games better than the simulator styles. I almost bought a xbone just to play powerstars golf, but then I came to my senses.
Video games of physical games. (Score:2)
Including card games like Uno and Junkyard [github.com] from Rbot [ruby-rbot.org] for Internet Relay Chat (IRC). Who needs graphics and physical cards? ;)
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I think by "Physical Games" they meant something more like sports.
But yes, my favorite video games often remind me of they physical games I used to play in grade school. Particularly Left4Dead (which was like some of the monster tag games) and perhaps some of the base capture modes in Tribes and Unreal Tournament.
Some of my favorite games:
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my favourite schoolyard game was something some friends and I came up with, called Bladerunner: this is a game for five or more players.
The object is, one player is the Replicant: it's his job not to get tagged by the Bladerunner.
One player is the Bladerunner. It's his job to tag the Replicant and not get tagged by the Drones.
Everyone else are Drones. It's their job to protect the Replicant (by physically blocking the Bladerunner) and tag the Bladerunner. One of the Drones has a stopwatch and a whistle - he
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"Tee" sound like a variant of what I knew as Kabaddi [wikipedia.org]. It had a brief burst of popularity in the playground, as I remember, after UK TV broadcast it for a while in the 90s.
Involved rather too much holding hands for working/middle-class white boys though, I think.
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I was thinking of this, myself. I have two games on my phone to pass the time away: Risk & Backgammon. So I chose board games. But, really, why play on a board when you can play on a tablet or phone?
Imagination games (Score:1)
(Nonfiction) Books are my games.
Movies are my addiction of choice. I spend my 'gaming' hours thinking about stuff. Researching and thinking, (productive) or re-writing stories in my mind, recasting different characters into books and movies I've read/seen to work out how the stories would change, (less productive).
I find Board/Card games excruciatingly pointless and really hard to care about. That means on the rare occasions when I do play, I don't pay enough attention and end up losing. So, double-
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Roguelikes. (Score:1)
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Physical games (Score:2)
I enjoy rock and ice climbing, sailing, and flying. And they are all done outside in the real world.
There's a certain satisfaction that comes from physical exertion that is not accomplished in a board game or a video game.
Although I have seen some people go crazy over flight sims. While they are good learning tools for some planes where it's hard (and expensive) to rack up hours, they're definitely no substitute for the real thing. That feeling of g's when you master an acrobatic maneuver or the joys of lan
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Those are more "recreational activities" than games (i.e., with an "object"). I've enjoyed both team and individual sports my whole life, as well as recreational activities like hiking, camping, shooting sports, etc.
I've owned or played just about every console since Atari and video games never keep my interest for very long. I eventually get bored and unsatisfied; with almost an "empty" feeling after playing. I get more gratification from losing a round of golf than from leveling on a video game.
Obviously
Ender's Game - missing option (Score:5, Funny)
With all the psychopaths & megalomaniacs on Slashdot, no one thought of this? ;-)
How lame have we become?
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I'd love to play the game with the Giant. I can't imagine a more interesting game.
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With all the psychopaths & megalomaniacs on Slashdot, no one thought of this? How lame have we become? ;-)
Never read the book but the film was absolute shit!
I'm feeling really old (Score:2)
I like video games, I have a drawer full of them, for various devices. I've played a lot of them. But none of them beats sitting down with friends with a good old-fashioned card or board game. My kids, on the other hand, are obsessed with video games. I guess this says something about where I fit into the slashdot population!
Can't I choose two? (Score:2)
Used to be video games (Score:1)
I used to love playing video games, but now they all seem to be so focused on multiplayer that it is extremely difficult to find one that is both enjoyable and challenging without having to go online.
Favorite ... (Score:2)
Um, YES? (Score:2)
How can you not like games? (Score:2)
To not like games is to not like life. Everything is a game. At work I try to find the flaws in arguments proposed by others, and attempt to propose flawless arguments of my own. When I ride my bike home I try to dodge as many pedestrians and other road users as I can, and then when I get home I try to minimize the amount of time engaged in activities I don't find enjoyable. Everything here revolves around optimal resource allocation. Even what I'm doing right now is a game. I send my thoughts across the wo
Head games (Score:2)
A significant number of people you meet love to play head games. They'll probably never admit it though.
I voted video games (Score:2)
Pinball (Score:2)
Some of those big old Bally's pinball games were awesome; the last pinball game I remember playing a lot was the Star Trek - The Next Generation; for a TV show themed machine it was pretty good, complicated too.
Tabletop for the win! (Score:2)
I launched Mage Knight (Heroclix) in the UK with a convention, went in with 100 juggernauts and a thousand starter sets, left with an empty van and a wallet so full of cash it wouldn't close. Only took six hours!
2nd Ed AD&D! (Score:2)
Chess (Score:4, Insightful)
"D" Tony, all of the above. (Score:2)
If there was ever a time for an "all of the above" this was the time. I pretty much play most of those varieties (Card, Board, Video, Pen & Paper and Physical games).
Beirut anyone? (Score:2)
best game ever. Physical activity, skill, strategy ... and drinking!
Video games = Superset (Score:2)
Enjoying the hell out FFXIV a realm reborn (Score:2)
Has to be the absolutely most beautiful MMO ever made by a wide margin. I mean it's just stunning and the characters are just incredible. Makes Disney at its prime look like something that crawled out from under a rock.
Anyone remember 'Strategy and Tactics' magazine? (Score:2)
Since then, picked up some goodies - "Republic of Rome', 'Pax Brittanica'.... hard to find face-to-face opponents these days so PBEM or video games.
But then there's the solitaires.. 'RAF', 'Carrier'...
Wood for Sheep (Score:2)
Settlers of Catan cry, or bestiality fetish. You decide.
VX (Score:2)
Reindeer Games (Score:2)
Boardgame Geek (Score:2)
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My wife and I both love BGG. She's found their "Women in Gaming" group and they're super supportive and welcoming vs. the guys (Wow. what a shocker there :-\ ).
And with our 150+ games, its nice having a place to keep them all in a list too :)
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Lookup Friday Night Magic locations, they typically play all kinds of various games. When a friend and I got back into fantasy type games, and none of our other friends would play, so that's where we went. Met new friends, had fun, learned new games.
Part of course correcting social discomforts is to actively seek social interaction... Meeting new people with an already established shared interest ( like at a comic book store playing d&d ) is a lot easier to handle than say some stranger at a night club.
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Check out roll20.net. It's a site that lets you play pencil and paper RPGs (or similar games) online. It's pretty much a videoconference with shared whiteboard, but with RPG-centric features that let you maintain a character sheet, roll your dice, set macros, etc. It's very slick.
I've never tried signing up for a game with strangers, but it is done all the time on the site.
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You could try meetup as well. We have a large RPG meetup group in Denver (over 1000 members with over 2000 games since 2006). There are a few others including board game meetups.
[John]
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Yes, like Nightmare [boardgamegeek.com]
Missing indeed (Score:2)