I'd give you the funny mod if I ever got a mod point. Or maybe it should be modded nostalgic?
Actually the first terminal I can recall using had a roll of paper, spongy keys, and an audio modem. Was it 110 baud? Oh yeah. And paper tape, too, with up to 7 holes in each row, if I recall correctly. It would have needed glow-in-the-dark ink for its dark mode.
However mostly it seems like another pointless poll. Sometimes I think of interesting alternative polls, but these days the answer is always "Why bother?" L
Sounds like you're describing a Model 33ASR Teletype, except it had keyboard keys that went CLUNK, 1-key rollover, and was 100% mechanical (with a rotating disc as a serial encoder), and the paper tape punch/reader was 8 bits, not 7. Could send and receive only 10cps but it always seemed like it was going fast because it was always in motion, with that 1/4 horsepower AC synchronous motor driving it.
I searched for images on that model number, and none of them looked the same. Several differences, but I think the main one is that the modem was on the side of the terminal.
By "spongy" I meant that the keys made a kind of "ploink" sound as they were pushed down. I was thinking of a "spoing" sound when I wrote that first version, but I'm really kind of hard pressed to describe it as I remember it.
You might be right on the tape, but I feel like it had only 7 holes, but I might have known to ignore the parity
Yeah, the Model 33 could have an accoustic coupler modem (used two-tone FSK, which was actually good for up to 300bps, but the Teletype could only do 110bps of course) or it could have paper tape punch and reader, but not both at the same time. Of course there were more than just Teletype Corporation building teletype machines and I think you're thinking of one of those.
If it interests you I got a 33ASR from one of the highschools, and had to repair it before it would work (broken part in the keyboard), a
I was mostly trying to follow up on the joke of original comment moderated as funny. Supposed to have been a callback, I guess.
I rather doubt anyone is still using a VT100, but I had the fuzzy recollection of a VT52 that I had to emulate at some point. However that was many years after the first terminal I could recall.
Right, or the website has their own dark mode, so the browser and the website cancel each other out. We're back to square one, so I'd take VT100 wannabes.
I have yet to see "Dark Mode" done on a PC in a way that doesn't make the text blurry or give me a killer eyestrain headache. And sadly I have have seen favorite web sites, in my opinion, destroy themselves by switching to dark mode as their default.
Thing is dark mode is not as great as devs and marketers like to make it sound
Myself I voted for "Other" because I use it always on the phone, which has an OLED screen, and never on laptops or desktops which so far have been LCDs. I don't really see any other reason to bother with it.
I love my infinite contrast AMOLED displays. I ranted on here for over a decade about my 21" Compaq Trinitrons and how you could take them from my cold dead hands, because LCD was DOA for me. Little did I know that my least favourite electronics company at the time, barring maybe Matsui (yuk), would pioneer and make available a suitable replacement which I can slip in my pocket and uses less power than LCD (in most of my use cases).
I own 4 x 10 inch tab sx variants, an s9 (Wan tether), an s9+ (running Debian on 2 fast 64 bit cores with 6Gb RAM, reroutable X displays and GPU acceleration using a root hack and redirect from the container) and 3 or so 8 inch tab sx variants, I am writing this on the Tab S2 8inch and get this, I program, consume, produce video, HiFi audio with my external dac, everything I need, all on 5vDC. I have Wikipedia on an SD card. Etc etc. Best computing setup in history. My armchair is the bridge. Or my camping stool is. Or a comfy crevice in a rock on a cloudy warm night, surrounded by gorgeous floating green text, dark green for my functions, lighter for strings and so on, my own custom gedit scheme. Its a dream come true. Three 2nd hand apple keyboards complete the meld between person and code and the rest is all touch. Scroll bars are avoided where possible, even (F11 key is AMOLEDS best friend!) References and database tables can be viewed anywhere in the network it's amazing what we've got now when you add it all together in new ways.
Guess what I need desktop windows for now (rarely)? Samsung Odin! For welcoming my devices into the secure side of the network and rooting them! Oh the irony! Well, that and for playing Fallout 4! 2020 the year of linux? Lol notice I didn't say desktop linux!
+1 for Trinitron superiority over all but OLED. From about 2000 to 2008 I used a 20" (viewable, CPD-520GST) non-flat trinitron monitor that could produce 1600x1200 at ~70hz and be readable; could also sync 1920x1440 at a lower rate but too blurry. Further, it could do 1024x768 @ > 100Hz, which was great for games, and iirc 240Hz at 640x480 (more or less useless, but still amusing). Sadly, the power supply broke down (arcing, smoking). Monitor was built in 1995, and after i acquired it, was probably used
Looking at a manual, maybe it was "only" 160Hz refresh at the highest, but I'd swear I had an aperture grille monitor of some sort that could crank > 200Hz
Never was a fan of Trinitron. Those two thin black lines on the top and bottom of the screen nagged me to say the least. I had a flat screen Samsung SyncMaster as my last CRT and that was ok.
Wow lets just let that sink in. I'm carrying over a terabyte of storage, many megaflops of cpu, and billions of high res LED pixels with me when I go camping, or bugout, all on 5vdc and solar or hand crank. Wow. I'm a god damn portable civilisation. I have my oil stones and anvil, too. From my cold, dead, >
... on the environment brightness. If the sun is shining, extra bright with maximum contrast. If I'm in a dark room at noon, dark mode. I really don't understand why people have such a polarized binary opinion about this. As with many things, optimal is adaptive based on circumstances. It's not a lot of mental effort to just toggle a switch somewhere. It would be **great** though if such a setting could be controlled globally, so that you don't have to toggle it for each individual application that you're u
I come from the dark ages: VT100 and such. When the very first Mac came out with its white background, I couldn't stand it: it was like having a lightbulb shining in my face all day long. And then obviously everybody copied them (meaning Windows). On Windows you could sometimes tweak it to have a dark barckground but it was hit and miss.
But then the old monitors got replaced by LCDs and (much better) LEDs, and I found out that having a white background is now comfortable. Particularly if you combine it with a color calibration [gdargaud.net]. And some screen brightnesses can be tuned way down to make them OK at night with no background light (something that should be avoided but which is sometimes necessary when somebody's sleeping in the room).
One of my first 'real' computers ran CP/M v2.2 and used an ADM dumbterminal and I wouldn't call that the 'dark ages', that's when computers were still fun.
Of course knowing what I know now I think I would have spent more time riding bikes and learning how to feed myself properly (especially what I shouldn't have been eating, ever) and a little less time being up until all hours of the night playing with computers, but it was what it was and I have no regrets.;-)
I have some apps with dark modes that really suck the ones that I like are the ones that put black text on a white or very light background but have the controls in charcoal colors with white text and don't generate a lot of light from the screen. My iphone is in dark mode because the regular mode is too bright at night or in dark or dim places I know you can just dim the screen but then it is unreadable outside in the day light, basically it's my way to avoid needing to adjust my screen brightness to bad i
I don't like dark mode on my MacBook Pros, in part because it can be inconsistent between apps (Microsoft Teams doesn't seem to abide by the setting at all, websites such as/. are still bright as day, the message section of Outlook isn't dark, etc.), and it tires my eyes. I prefer to work in light mode with proper room lighting, especially during working hours during the day.
On my iPad Pro, I have it set to switch between light and dark mode depending on the time of day. Most of the applications do a bet
I will use Dark Mode on my next smartphone, because I will probably have no choice but an OLED screen (to get the other specs I want) and OLED screens suffer from burn-in.
Any "always on"/notification features when the phone is not "on" also need to be turned off.
I wear orange-tinted blue light wavelength blocking glasses before bedtime. Dark mode is useless, because the house lighting and TV screens are still blasting blue light and suppress your melatonin.
My most important dark mode usage is green on black on Firefox with a plugin, yellow by day and green after dusk for my eBook reading. OLED screens are typically pentile, so only green has no jaggies.
Oh, and without any other lights on I can read before going to sleep, put the phone away and be on Melmac in a minute or so. Courtesy of turning off all the blue.
and for reading on my phone. I broke my Kobo so started using my phone and it's perfectly good for reading. Dark mode with white text seems to suit me best.
I use custom colors that I prefer on my desktop (linux/XFCE w/redshift on) and I use Nova Launcher on my phone. The colors are generally white on dark colors, but I consider that custom and not dark mode.
Apple rolled out a dark theme for Final Cut a little while ago and I, and other editors, found it useful. When Apple rolled out a system-wide dark mode I tried it for a few days and hated it.
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I use VT100, you insensitive clods (Score:5, Funny)
My VT100 has black background, night mode for me 24/7, thanks for asking!
I tried the X11 terminal once, but it was waay too bright.
Re: I use VT100, you insensitive clods (Score:2)
I'm much older than forty, and I prefer the term hardcore, you insensitive clod!
Missing option: Unconvinced (Score:2)
I'd give you the funny mod if I ever got a mod point. Or maybe it should be modded nostalgic?
Actually the first terminal I can recall using had a roll of paper, spongy keys, and an audio modem. Was it 110 baud? Oh yeah. And paper tape, too, with up to 7 holes in each row, if I recall correctly. It would have needed glow-in-the-dark ink for its dark mode.
However mostly it seems like another pointless poll. Sometimes I think of interesting alternative polls, but these days the answer is always "Why bother?" L
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I searched for images on that model number, and none of them looked the same. Several differences, but I think the main one is that the modem was on the side of the terminal.
By "spongy" I meant that the keys made a kind of "ploink" sound as they were pushed down. I was thinking of a "spoing" sound when I wrote that first version, but I'm really kind of hard pressed to describe it as I remember it.
You might be right on the tape, but I feel like it had only 7 holes, but I might have known to ignore the parity
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If it interests you I got a 33ASR from one of the highschools, and had to repair it before it would work (broken part in the keyboard), a
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Now I'm getting scared!
Get off my lawn, you whippersnapper!
Seriously, as the calendar works that makes me even more of a fossil than I thought I was.
My recollection is the terminal I'm describing had the modem on one side and the tape reader on the other. Still, just in the form of archaic trivia.
So how to make it more relevant to the actual poll about dark mode?
I've got it!
Black paper with a white ink ribbon!
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I was mostly trying to follow up on the joke of original comment moderated as funny. Supposed to have been a callback, I guess.
I rather doubt anyone is still using a VT100, but I had the fuzzy recollection of a VT52 that I had to emulate at some point. However that was many years after the first terminal I could recall.
It depends. (Score:2)
Some web sites and apps don't look good and work well in non-default dark mode. :(
Re: It depends. (Score:2)
Right, or the website has their own dark mode, so the browser and the website cancel each other out. We're back to square one, so I'd take VT100 wannabes.
dark mode is a dark cloud on the horizon (Score:3)
I have yet to see "Dark Mode" done on a PC in a way that doesn't make the text blurry or give me a killer eyestrain headache. And sadly I have have seen favorite web sites, in my opinion, destroy themselves by switching to dark mode as their default.
Thing is dark mode is not as great as devs and marketers like to make it sound
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techradar.com%2Fnews... [techradar.com]
And I still use an old style flip phone so I've never had to deal with dark mode on my phone.
You know what's better than dark mode? (Score:2)
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Fully configurable UIs would be nice. But still, I'll take a selectable dark mode over nothing.
Windows 3.1 truly isthe high-water rmark of UI personalization and design [codinghorror.com].
Myself I voted for "Other" because I use it always on the phone, which has an OLED screen, and never on laptops or desktops which so far have been LCDs. I don't really see any other reason to bother with it.
I use to be dark all the way (Score:2)
But, now, I'm windows, and some MS apps have some bad behavior with the windows Dark theme.
Dark Mode Dependent Upon Application (Score:1)
Certain applications pop, and are more useable with permanent dark mode.
Dat's all.
Only on AMOLED (Score:3)
I love my infinite contrast AMOLED displays. I ranted on here for over a decade about my 21" Compaq Trinitrons and how you could take them from my cold dead hands, because LCD was DOA for me. Little did I know that my least favourite electronics company at the time, barring maybe Matsui (yuk), would pioneer and make available a suitable replacement which I can slip in my pocket and uses less power than LCD (in most of my use cases).
I own 4 x 10 inch tab sx variants, an s9 (Wan tether), an s9+ (running Debian on 2 fast 64 bit cores with 6Gb RAM, reroutable X displays and GPU acceleration using a root hack and redirect from the container) and 3 or so 8 inch tab sx variants, I am writing this on the Tab S2 8inch and get this, I program, consume, produce video, HiFi audio with my external dac, everything I need, all on 5vDC. I have Wikipedia on an SD card. Etc etc. Best computing setup in history. My armchair is the bridge. Or my camping stool is. Or a comfy crevice in a rock on a cloudy warm night, surrounded by gorgeous floating green text, dark green for my functions, lighter for strings and so on, my own custom gedit scheme. Its a dream come true. Three 2nd hand apple keyboards complete the meld between person and code and the rest is all touch. Scroll bars are avoided where possible, even (F11 key is AMOLEDS best friend!) References and database tables can be viewed anywhere in the network it's amazing what we've got now when you add it all together in new ways.
Guess what I need desktop windows for now (rarely)? Samsung Odin! For welcoming my devices into the secure side of the network and rooting them! Oh the irony! Well, that and for playing Fallout 4! 2020 the year of linux? Lol notice I didn't say desktop linux!
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tl:dr
Trinitrons > LCD
AMOLED > Trinitrons + Cheaper + Lighter + Less Power
YAY! SAMSUNG! I HATED YOU! SO THANK YOU! AND SORRY! (BUT FIX YOUR SOFTWARE PRO MODE CAMERA S9 N9 GRRR DEX ETC LOL)
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Never was a fan of Trinitron. Those two thin black lines on the top and bottom of the screen nagged me to say the least.
I had a flat screen Samsung SyncMaster as my last CRT and that was ok.
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Wow lets just let that sink in. I'm carrying over a terabyte of storage, many megaflops of cpu, and billions of high res LED pixels with me when I go camping, or bugout, all on 5vdc and solar or hand crank. Wow. I'm a god damn portable civilisation. I have my oil stones and anvil, too. From my cold, dead, >
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The double-angled-bracketed CARRIER LOST meme has been stripped from my post, ruining the joke. Sorry about that.
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Missing option: It depends ... (Score:2)
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I Know!
If only dark mode save power......
It depends... (Score:3)
But then the old monitors got replaced by LCDs and (much better) LEDs, and I found out that having a white background is now comfortable. Particularly if you combine it with a color calibration [gdargaud.net]. And some screen brightnesses can be tuned way down to make them OK at night with no background light (something that should be avoided but which is sometimes necessary when somebody's sleeping in the room).
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Of course knowing what I know now I think I would have spent more time riding bikes and learning how to feed myself properly (especially what I shouldn't have been eating, ever) and a little less time being up until all hours of the night playing with computers, but it was what it was and I have no regrets.
Waste of time (Score:2)
Dark mode is harder to read, so I don't use it.
I guess if you decide what to do based on what's fashionable it's probably as great as those trousers that have the crotch at the knee.
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I have some apps with dark modes that really suck the ones that I like are the ones that put black text on a white or very light background but have the controls in charcoal colors with white text and don't generate a lot of light from the screen. My iphone is in dark mode because the regular mode is too bright at night or in dark or dim places I know you can just dim the screen but then it is unreadable outside in the day light, basically it's my way to avoid needing to adjust my screen brightness to bad i
No on MBPs, but yes on iPad Pro (Score:2)
I don't like dark mode on my MacBook Pros, in part because it can be inconsistent between apps (Microsoft Teams doesn't seem to abide by the setting at all, websites such as /. are still bright as day, the message section of Outlook isn't dark, etc.), and it tires my eyes. I prefer to work in light mode with proper room lighting, especially during working hours during the day.
On my iPad Pro, I have it set to switch between light and dark mode depending on the time of day. Most of the applications do a bet
Only on the phone (Score:2)
And only there because I use Square Home and dark mode to make my Pixel 3a look more like my beloved old Windows Phones.
Only on OLED (Score:2)
I will use Dark Mode on my next smartphone, because I will probably have no choice but an OLED screen (to get the other specs I want) and OLED screens suffer from burn-in.
Any "always on"/notification features when the phone is not "on" also need to be turned off.
Sometimes (Score:2)
I frequently like a nice dark mode, but I'm not religious about it.
Dark mode is not enough (Score:1)
I wear orange-tinted blue light wavelength blocking glasses before bedtime. Dark mode is useless, because the house lighting and TV screens are still blasting blue light and suppress your melatonin.
day and night reading modes on OLED (Score:2)
Oh, and without any other lights on I can read before going to sleep, put the phone away and be on Melmac in a minute or so. Courtesy of turning off all the blue.
Dark mode here is used only... (Score:2)
Darkwing Mode (Score:2)
Dark mode for coding on PC... (Score:2)
I use custom colors..wtf is dark mode? (Score:2)
I use custom colors that I prefer on my desktop (linux/XFCE w/redshift on) and I use Nova Launcher on my phone. The colors are generally white on dark colors, but I consider that custom and not dark mode.
Et tu, Slashdot? (Score:1)
So where the F is dark mode in the Slashdot Options menu?
I hate dark themes with a passion (Score:2)
FCP X OK (Score:2)
Apple rolled out a dark theme for Final Cut a little while ago and I, and other editors, found it useful. When Apple rolled out a system-wide dark mode I tried it for a few days and hated it.