For about the last 16-20 years I've been working remote....all my co-workers live in other states from me.

There is no face to face....and I have no problem being productive etc.

I've had to start coming into an office again....and it's worthless.

I mean, I work from home, I get on the phone for Teams meetings with a headset.

I come to the office, I'm on the very same meetings on Teams with a headset....

The only difference is I have to waste time and gas to drive to a worksite.....get distracted by people I do nothing with chatting and gabbing in the office....and I have a more difficult time staying on my diet since I can't cook in my own kitchen daily.....

I can understand new workers....that interaction for many jobs is important early...but for old farts like me, I don't need it.

I can work with and mange people just fine remotely......especially when your work mates are spread all across the nation.....

But apparently.....mgmt doesn't seem to get that concept.

Drivers Ed taught us to stop every 2 hours and take a break for safety

Never had Drivers Ed....I don't even think it was offered back in the dark ages when I was in school....

But.... But... #Believeallwomen!

(Of course, nobody seems to discuss that the logical consequence of that is there were really witches in Salem.)

Hilarious, when you're replying to a thread that STARTED with exactly that. The op started a fact (that the app was started to doxx and slander men anonymously) and was, in turn, called an incel.

Your comment would be more persuasive if we hadn't the fresh memory of 4 years of a Democrat administration that actively suppressed free speech regarding things like COVID and chopping off children's genitals to pretend they're a different sex.

The ideal setup - a single family home with a garage that could house a single EV primarily used for commuting

Maybe in your ideal world...

In my world, most families have 2+ cars and they are used pretty much every day to commute to different destinations....or maybe if wife stays home, she runs the kids around in it while Dad works....

If you're not running gas, your stove is probably 240, your dryer is probably 240, and if you have central AC, it's probably running 240.

Yep..my dryer is gas, my stove is gas my oven is gas (I love cooking on gas and avoid living anywhere they dont offer this.

But that being said....even when I lived in places day with an electric stove....all that was plugged in behind it, the plug/outles was not user accessible that I ever found....so, not an option to plug anything into it.

2. You need about one charger for every seven cars to be able to ensure decent access, because cars go about 10 days between charges

This is one BIG difference here...the UK is so small that ya'll don't drive much at all I guess....

Charging once every 10 days isn't remotely a possibility across the US....we drive everywhere...we don't really have a choice.

It's not at all inconvenient - you come home, you open the charge port, plug it in. When you leave, you unplug it, and drive away.

Not unlike my ICE vehicles (especially the diesel) in the winter. Just a heavier cord to plug in.

Ah...if you have the option to have a home with a charge point, that helps....not an option for a LOT of people.

Interesting...about the plug in car heater. Until recently I'd never heard of such a thing....I've never lived that far north...until I was running around with a girl from the NE for awhile I'd never heard of the concept.....a lot depends on where you live I guess.

The US is a very large country with many climates and regional habits, customs, etc....

Anyway...maybe by the time I move and live somewhere where I could charge at home readily...they'll actually have an EV I'd be interested in...something in a 2-seater sports car that is somewhat even remotely affordable.....

I've never owned a car with > 2 seats and all have been manual transmissions to date...so that would be a loss for me....

They actually would get more bang for their buck if they did take one car together, or biked (the majority of trips in the US are under 7 miles, and there are multiple options for carrying kids and groceries and gear on a bike), walked, and/or took public transit for some trips, and only used the vehicles when actually necessary. They would get even more bang for their buck if they didn't own multiple vehicles at all and biked, walked, and/or took public transit for most trips, and rented a/another vehicle when actually necessary. And kids can bike/walk/take public transit on their own long before they can drive, so this would mean considerably less trips to go pick up a kid and drive them somewhere else.

You obviously don't live in the US and don't have an idea how life is here.

Avg 7 miles? Are you insane?

Unless you live in one of the few BIG urban cities like a NYC or Chicago....that is just not the case..there is NO viable public transport....

And if there were, for example the other weekend I wanted to fire up my smoker....I bought a new 40 lb bag or so of lump charcoal to start my log burning offset smoker. I got myself a full untrimmed 12-14lb brisket, a chicken and a couple racks of ribs....some beer, and my weekly buy of normal groceries from Costco and couple other regular grocery stores, that had things I wanted on sale....how the hell would I get that home on a bicycle or public transportation that isn't door to door..?

By the way this type of shopping is not rare for me to do...

Renting a vehicle? When's the last time you did that....that is $$$ and you can't always depend on them having the type vehicle YOU want at the time....

Sure,, look...one CAN do things and bend over backwards to do theEV thing...but for the love of God, why would I want to put myself though inconveniences for my life...and pay more money for that privilege?

I would not consider myself to be anywhere CLOSER to "Type-A"....that's just how I was raised and how most everyone I've grown up with and around drives on trips....

I just want to get there....maximize the destination and tolerate as little as possible for the trip.

That's by car mind you....when out on my motorcycle....most of the fun is the trip.

Interesting,

I live in the New Orleans area....and there's just not squat down here for chargers.

I've looked on maps given me online...and most everything listed are private, not public chargers....the only ones I've seen out are some Tesla ones at a Winn-Dixie grocery store near me and I think 1-2 in front of a couple Whole Foods...but shy of that, not a lot around here to be found.

I dunno - many things I think are just part of life are an unforgivable show stopping inconvenience to others. All that said, when the outages occur, My life goes on just like it did before. Hot water, heat, Freezers. When the Electricity goes back on, My life goes on apace.

Last hurricane that came through LA last year...hit us from the west, a bit unusual and travelled inland and far enough to cause lots of outages even in the NOLA area. Weird thing was, I had no power for like 3-4 days...but next door neighbor did. He threw an extension cord over the fence and from that I hooked back and forth to my fridge and big chest freezer and a window unit AC I had.

That kept me going and saved a lot of food loss.

I really need to buy a gasoline powered generator for things like that.....like you said, to have something...when you need it.

It's hard to not be retributive, and honestly, Trump's the last person I'd expect to be the grown-up in the room but it would have been refreshing if the current admin would have been about "just getting the trains to run on time" and weeding out the DEI bullshittery than paybacks, no matter how richly they were deserved.

It's hard being an idealistic pessimist.

in your town are the lampposts on the inside of the sidewalk? That's a problem for your urban planners.

Not sure what you perceive as "inside" the sidewalk...but I can say I've never seen a street light ON the street...they are usually in the sidewalk or on the side opposite from the street side of the sidewalk....hence you'd have to run the power cord from the car across the sidewalk to the street light.

what happens if you are low on fuel in your gas car when you get home? you park and you find a station to fill up in the morning or you go fill up before you park. why do anti-ev people assume gas cars have pocket dimensions with unlimited fuel?

Well, for gas stations, anywhere I've ever lived, you can't throw a rock without hitting a gas station. It is easily convenient to pull in and gas up every 1-2 weeks...takes 5 minutes tops and you're on your way....I don't see the same convenience with EVs, especially if you don't have private off street parking at your home to recharge EVERY day....

instead of making assumptions you nonce

What the fuck is a "nonce"....?