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Comment Re:Not in the UK (Score 1) 101

The few universities were not at all creatures of the government.

What of it? Even for private establishments like Cambridge, the amount of government funding is above a third of their yearly budget.

As indeed was the 'Royal Society' despite its name.

Which is relevant how?

The Royal Society was originally a forum for discussions between its members for the "promotion of science", i.e. its members reported on research they were performing elsewhere. When its functions gradually expanded to support research, it became a recipient of government funding. Today it receives something like 250 million pounds a year from the government, which is most of its budget.

And some research was self funded.

Yes, some, and virtually all of that had immediate practical applications ahead of it, or was the hobby of a heir of a large fortune.

So what?

Comment Re:Early modern universities weren't 'government' (Score 1) 101

but that's exceptional.

Hardly. Since the early Renaissance most of the famous European institutions of higher learning were accredited by and at least partly funded by a "government", the earliest ones in the 1200-1300s by the popes; and virtually all science was happening on the payroll of some court or other, courts which were, well, "the government".

Fibonacci, Galileo, Da Vinci, Kepler, Descartes... Virtually all scientists whose names you know were employees of a "government" working in a... wait for it... Public universities, like Pisa, Paris, any of the Dutch or German ones and so on. You can easily check 'em out one by one, it ain't no big secret.

Basically, without government outlays of some form there is no fundamental science of any kind. This isn't much of a surprise. There is a sound economic explanation for this phenomenon and it is fairly simple - the investment in fundamental science has returns that are unpredictable, difficult to capture by a "private" entity and typically pay off too far into the future.

So it doesn't really make sense for a "business" to make them, even if the potential total payout is huge. The only investor that has the planning horizon and the incentives to which these returns are relevant is the sovereign.

Hence the inescapable and dominant role of the government in the process.

Comment Re: The zero master is at it again. (Score 1) 217

No, you actually said

If the location is set is American locations, it is normally shot in America.

It is a bit unclear what this means, but I take it to mean that if the story is about the US then it is shot in the US.

Which is manifestly false.

US films are shot wherever it is cheapest. China isn't that, because it has certain political aspects that make it a high-risk location. You just forgot to add them.

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