Seriously, the idea that we know all the practically important physics there is is the kind of thing only somebody who's never done science or engineering would believe.

> No reference to subsidies. All that matters is the export price being less than the fair market price in the country of origin.

Exactly.

China doesn't have the concept of "fair market price" for many industries. Such as domestically produced cars.

We are in agreement.

Wow, I had no idea you were dumb enough to fall for the Red Scare.

Adjusted for inflation, the federal government simply spend less on education than we used to (ref1). And that doesn't even account for the fact that the population has grown.

Not that per student spending is the only or best metric to measure education. You could look at college graduation rates, in 1980 it's 16.2% and by 2020 it's 37.5%, so by that metric we're doing very well. (sorry, Statisa won't provide me the source unless I pay the money. I had a hard time finding the 1980 graduation rates)

Looking at the statistic of "Attained Tertiary Education" on wikipedia, which convenient has linked reference.
    USA 43.1% (ref2)
    China 16.1% (ref3)

From that point of view, the USA is winning. Right?
Not really, it's also a bad metric (I chose it intentionally). Take into account China's long-term strategy, which is no open secret. We saw a dramatic increase in the influx of Chinese students into American Universities, becoming the dominate source of international students for US schools. And now we see their numbers going back down, after Chinese Universities were built and expanded over the years. We would of course expect a shift, with cheaper and improved schools in China reducing the number of foreign students applying to US schools.

Long-term what does this even mean?
It means China has a plan and they have been executing on that plan for decades.

What's the US's plan?

*ref1: Education Spending Declined During 80’s, Report Says
*ref2: S1501 - Educational Attainment
*ref3: 4-4 Population aged 25 and over by region, sex, and educational attainment

New and improved! Now with 21st century anarcho-capitalism in every bite.

This is the second time parody metal band Psychostick has foretold the future of US politics, first with "Political bum" and then "Numbers" - complete with muppets!

The way they got so big wasn't that they were super efficient they just went around buying up their competitors and they happened to have some venture capital because bezos had some connections through his parents.

If we had proper antitrust law enforcement someone would have noticed ages ago that Amazon was going around buying up competitors and shut that down but well, we don't.

So now we've got a handful of retailers and they are all basically owned by the same handful of major shareholders so they all have the same prices and those prices keep going up because good luck starting a competing retailer.

Then why should anyone put the effort in to watching it?
That's the problem with AI slop. You cut humans out of one end of the equation but don't realize that also is going to remove humans for the other end.

The media executives of the world must think we're all pretty stupid if they think that your average consumer is OK with ever decreasing quality of content. It gets to a point where watching grass grow is more entertaining than confusing moronic slop, and nobody is getting paid then.

You seem to be confusing "wanting to get rid of communists" with "wanting their countries to be poor and dangerous".

And I tried to impart them on my kid. They didn't listen because kids don't listen to their parents.

The thing that makes my kid better off than their friends is that they don't have any student loan debt because I paid their way through college and I also gave them several thousand dollars to get them set up when they were entering the workforce.

So for example my kid had a couple of really shitty jobs at the start of their career that they were able to quit because they knew they could go without working for a little while if they absolutely had to.

Now strictly speaking that isn't nepotism that's just generational wealth. My kid would be much better off if I was in a position to help them with nepotism. But that said there is a lot of nepotism out there...

Had to turn down a role in season 2 because the money they were paying her wasn't enough for her and her family to live in London.

Industrial R&D is important, but it is in a distrant third place with respect to importance to US scientific leadership after (1) Universities operating with federal grants and (2) Federal research institutions.

It's hard to convince politicians with a zero sum mentality that the kind of public research that benefits humanity also benefits US competitiveness. The mindset shows in launching a new citizenship program for anyone who pays a million bucks while at the same time discouraging foreign graduate students from attending universtiy in the US or even continuing their university careers here. On average each talented graduate student admitted to the US to attend and elite university does way more than someone who could just buy their way in.

You want Trump to be impeached right? I mean there is a laundry list of corruption charges waiting for Trump so you're going to start advocating for the impeachment and removal from office for that airplane he got from Qatar or the billions of dollars in crypto bribes or when he openly admitted he took money for pardons right?

Look I get it you are not emotionally capable of feeling the combination of shame and self-awareness that is associated with hypocrisy so you aren't actually capable of being a hypocrite because you will do anything for your side to win.

And I'm not actually addressing you because you're probably just a bot. A shitload of right-wing numb skulls are training their chat bots here on slash Dot.

But I know there's a bunch of old mean-spirited boomers who voted for Trump here. Did you know Trump is going to use AI to deny your Medicare claims? It's going to let the companies running the AI keep the money that they save.

All I'm saying is I think we're all fucked and I think you're fucked too. Have fun dying of a heart attack when they take away the pills keeping you alive.

During the black lives matter protests right? Of the two police stations that burned down both of them were burned down by right wingers who were trying to cause more trouble. Look it up. You are big boy you got Google you can find it it's not hard.

Also the guy who killed Kirk was the right wing extremist and his motive was like the idiot that tried to shoot Trump they were both trying to cause a civil war. It turns out when you engage in stochastic terrorism it can backfire on you.

I mean these people are smart enough to know that if somebody were to shoot Bernie Sanders or AOC that the left wing would just mourn and move on. They go after right winger is because they're expecting numbskulls like you to have a knee-jerk reaction that can be used by extremists.

The fact that you have so little critical thinking skills that you can't figure that out is why they are kind of right.

So I like the fact that nuance is completely dead. And I don't mean even complex nuance I mean the slightest amount of nuance.

So on the one hand we have hardcore racists losing their jobs because they are hardcore racists and the companies that employ them don't want to take the risk of them either pissing off a customer by being a hardcore racist or worse opening them up to civil rights lawsuits by, again, being hardcore racists...

On the other hand we have people quoting a right-wing extremists right-wing extremism and then getting fired from their jobs often for political reasons since a lot of them were College professors and there is currently a attack on colleges by the right wing and billionaires..

That is not a complex nuanced thing. We made racism a crime because that was the only way to stop the racists from doing racism and we all know racism is wrong it's just some of us enjoy it and want to do it anyway. Like how you're not supposed to drive 60 mph in a 40 mph zone but some idiots will do it anyway and occasionally kill a kid.

So there isn't really any nuance here per se but there is a very very very very tiny bit of nuance in the sense that we have people who are dangerous to the company they are working for and kind of terrible and refusing to acknowledge that terribleness and we have a bunch of billionaires using a political assassination conducted by a right-wing extremist hoping to start a civil war to seize a tiny little bit more power...

And even that bit of nuances too much for a lot of Americans.

I don't necessarily blame the education system itself I blame the sabotage that's been done to the education system for the last 60 years.

Wealthy people don't like capitalism and they don't like critical thinking. They wanted dismantle capitalism and they want to do away with critical thinking. There are a lot of people who can't think critically and can't figure that out and nobody has figured out a way to explain that to them