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Comment Re:and yet (Score -1, Flamebait) 75

I guess you might as well commit suicide the to avoid the Christmas rush. Seriously, there's no hope for you to ever amount to anything, so what's the point in living? The only favor you can possibly do humanity is to not exist.

Or you could get off your ass and actually get a job and try to support yourself. But we both know you never, ever, ever will.

Comment Re:EVs scale fine on the existing grid (Score 1) 338

You still need a 50% increase in the amount of electricity being generated, in an era where it is more and more difficult to build new generating capacity, and an comparable build out of grid infrastructure to support it. The only difference is that you concentrate where it needs to go into smaller areas, the equivalent of gas stations, rather than home chargers. It's still a massive, multi-generational project. It's taken a hundred years and more to build what we have now, a 50% increase isn't happening in 10-15 years.

20 minute charge times seems to be state of the art in the real world, which is about 7 times as long as gassing up a ICE car. So your magical battery swap station would need 7 times as many chargers as the average gas station has pumps to service the same number of cars. The average gas station has 6-12 pumps, so let's say 9. 9x7 is 63, at 7kw each, that's half a megawatt circuit. Per station. There are 600,000 gas stations in the US.

What works China, with its lack of environmental concerns, doesn't work in the US, where the environmental lobby will do, literally, everything it possibly can to prevent building any more generating capacity, and won't scale without that huge increase in capacity and grid infrastructure.

It can be done, and possibly will be, but not by 2035 (when current law in California bans the sale of new internal combustion vehicles).

Comment Re:EVs scale fine on the existing grid (Score 1) 338

How on *earth* would it cost more than a million bucks to install chargers in your small complex.

178 units is a small complex. There are, BTW, at least three larger complexes within a block.

Do you have AC?

No, It's pointless in southern California, this close to the beach.

Did it cost a million bucks for AC to be put in?

Irrelevant, since if there were AC, it would have been part of the original construction, not retrofitted.

AC draws the same kind of power. You said a "multi-megawatt circuit" would be needed for your "small complex". A typical US domestic Level 2 charger supplies about 7kW of power (30A at 240V). Let's define "multi-megawatt" as being at least 2MW. A circuit that size could supply *285* 7kW chargers.

178 would round up, and is certainly over 1 MW. And again, 178 units is a small complex.

Noone could possibly describe a 285 unit complex as small.

There are complexes in LA with thousands. There are three complexes within a block that are larger.

So yes, 178 units is small.

If the cost for that were indeed a million bucks, it would also work out to be about $3.5k per unit, which isn't nothing, but also isn't that bad.

It also ain't something the landlord is going to pay for without raising the rent, which is already obscenely high. (My rent on a small one bedroom apartment is twice what my sister's mortgage was for a four bedroom house in Nebraska.)

So somewhere or other, your maths seems very very off.

Or you have no clue what you're jibbering about.

My guess is you've assumed the need to install higher-powered chargers, potentially on the basis of some erroneous assumption about how quickly one needs to be able to charge in a domestic setting*. But you can clear it up by providing your workings.

Your own numbers add up to exactly what I said. Your delusion is that 178 units isn't a small complex when, in fact, it is.

Comment Re:EVs scale fine on the existing grid (Score 0) 338

To replace gasoline entirely with electricity means about a 50% increase in the total amount of electricity being generated, and a massive increase in the grid infrastructure to distribute it

I think you're overstating that.

I'm not.

By charging more for electricity at night and less when the sun is shining on the carport's solar panels, electricity doesn't have to travel as far to charge the car.

So now we've added solar panels? Plus, how far the electricity has to travel has very little effect on the cost. Or the amount that needs to be generated.

Neither [busses nor trains] even break even, or come close to it

Are you trolling? Because Brightline disagrees with you that trains cannot make a profit. Even Amtrak's Acela Express is "very profitable".

I was referring to mass transit in Los Angeles.

Try to participate in the same conversation as everyone else.

Comment Re:EVs scale fine on the existing grid (Score 1, Troll) 338

On the other hand, that's an average, so it means it will suit the needs of a lot of other people.

It's the "and fuck the rest who should go away and die" part that's killing all efforts to get people to switch.

You're right that we would have to tear up streets for absurd periods of time to add service to a lot of apartment complexes, but you're ignoring that we could also run a lot of 120V circuits for charging without having to add any exterior infrastructure at all.

A) How many apartment complexes have electrical outlets in their outdoor, non-enclosed parking - and how many of those will let the tenants use them? Because if there are any, they aren't metered, and most complexes have separate meters for each apartment. Do you really believe the complex is going to pay to charge everyone's cars? Even adding a 120v circuit to the meter of each apartment is a very expensive project.

B) You're still increasing, significantly, the amount of electricity being used. To replace gasoline entirely with electricity means about a 50% increase in the total amount of electricity being generated, and a massive increase in the grid infrastructure to distribute it, whether it's to 30 megawatt circuits to "gas" stations or additional 120v circuits to each apartment.

We could therefore reasonably serve a whole lot of additional with drivers sufficient charging capacity.

And fuck the rest, they should go away and die. When you're ready to address the needs of everyone, maybe you have something to say. Until then, you're just another delusional leftie loon whose parents are worth enough that you aren't worried about being one of the ones turned out to die.

Anyway here's the point where I lose most of my audience, when I suggest that in addition to doing that, we should be bolstering public transportation systems to make them serve more people,

Public transportation works in, say, NYC, where residential areas and business areas are both pretty concentrated. In Los Angeles public transportation means bringing a towel along to wipe the urine off the seat from the homeless guy who was there before you. It's been tried and tried and tried, and it simply doesn't work. LA built out instead of up, so the population isn't concentrated enough to support busses or trains at residential point of origin or the business destination. Neither can even break even, or come close to it, when they run at 5% capacity because 95% of the population can't use them. The closest it gets to mass transit here are park-n-rides, where you can concentrate the riders at the point of origin, at least. And the "park" part means you still have to have a car.

  (And that's aside from the fact that mass transit projects in southern California are, from start to finish, graft and corruption for the unions, with almost nothing ever being built. Other than subways in wet, geologically active sand barely above sea level.)

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