That does say something about how much the people who currently own them value them.

None of which has fuckall to do with the conversation everyone but you is currently having.

Go ask Mummy for a cookie and some milk, and go to bed. The grownups are talking.

No, it really isn't.

You still need a 50% increase in the amount of electricity being generated, in an era where it is more and more difficult to build new generating capacity, and an comparable build out of grid infrastructure to support it. The only difference is that you concentrate where it needs to go into smaller areas, the equivalent of gas stations, rather than home chargers. It's still a massive, multi-generational project. It's taken a hundred years and more to build what we have now, a 50% increase isn't happening in 10-15 years.

20 minute charge times seems to be state of the art in the real world, which is about 7 times as long as gassing up a ICE car. So your magical battery swap station would need 7 times as many chargers as the average gas station has pumps to service the same number of cars. The average gas station has 6-12 pumps, so let's say 9. 9x7 is 63, at 7kw each, that's half a megawatt circuit. Per station. There are 600,000 gas stations in the US.

What works China, with its lack of environmental concerns, doesn't work in the US, where the environmental lobby will do, literally, everything it possibly can to prevent building any more generating capacity, and won't scale without that huge increase in capacity and grid infrastructure.

It can be done, and possibly will be, but not by 2035 (when current law in California bans the sale of new internal combustion vehicles).

178 units is a small complex. There are, BTW, at least three larger complexes within a block.

No, It's pointless in southern California, this close to the beach.

Irrelevant, since if there were AC, it would have been part of the original construction, not retrofitted.

178 would round up, and is certainly over 1 MW. And again, 178 units is a small complex.

There are complexes in LA with thousands. There are three complexes within a block that are larger.

So yes, 178 units is small.

It also ain't something the landlord is going to pay for without raising the rent, which is already obscenely high. (My rent on a small one bedroom apartment is twice what my sister's mortgage was for a four bedroom house in Nebraska.)

Or you have no clue what you're jibbering about.

Your own numbers add up to exactly what I said. Your delusion is that 178 units isn't a small complex when, in fact, it is.

I'm not.

So now we've added solar panels? Plus, how far the electricity has to travel has very little effect on the cost. Or the amount that needs to be generated.

I was referring to mass transit in Los Angeles.

Try to participate in the same conversation as everyone else.

It's the "and fuck the rest who should go away and die" part that's killing all efforts to get people to switch.

A) How many apartment complexes have electrical outlets in their outdoor, non-enclosed parking - and how many of those will let the tenants use them? Because if there are any, they aren't metered, and most complexes have separate meters for each apartment. Do you really believe the complex is going to pay to charge everyone's cars? Even adding a 120v circuit to the meter of each apartment is a very expensive project.

B) You're still increasing, significantly, the amount of electricity being used. To replace gasoline entirely with electricity means about a 50% increase in the total amount of electricity being generated, and a massive increase in the grid infrastructure to distribute it, whether it's to 30 megawatt circuits to "gas" stations or additional 120v circuits to each apartment.

And fuck the rest, they should go away and die. When you're ready to address the needs of everyone, maybe you have something to say. Until then, you're just another delusional leftie loon whose parents are worth enough that you aren't worried about being one of the ones turned out to die.

Public transportation works in, say, NYC, where residential areas and business areas are both pretty concentrated. In Los Angeles public transportation means bringing a towel along to wipe the urine off the seat from the homeless guy who was there before you. It's been tried and tried and tried, and it simply doesn't work. LA built out instead of up, so the population isn't concentrated enough to support busses or trains at residential point of origin or the business destination. Neither can even break even, or come close to it, when they run at 5% capacity because 95% of the population can't use them. The closest it gets to mass transit here are park-n-rides, where you can concentrate the riders at the point of origin, at least. And the "park" part means you still have to have a car.

  (And that's aside from the fact that mass transit projects in southern California are, from start to finish, graft and corruption for the unions, with almost nothing ever being built. Other than subways in wet, geologically active sand barely above sea level.)

The plural of anecdote is not data. Your personal experience does not define reality.

About 1/3 of those in the US live in rentals, over 40% in California where you literally cannot hold down a job that pays enough to have a home without a vehicle. Most of those people live in apartments. The cost to provide chargers for the small complex I live in would be over a million dollars, plus the cost of tearing up the street for months to bring in a multi-megawatt circuit to feed them. Rent in Los Angeles for a one bedroom apartment is already more than 100% of the pre-tax income of someone working full time for minimum wage. Good luck getting apartment owners to pay for all that without raising it even more.

Or are you one of those stereotypical entitled lefties who figures "poor people should go die somewhere else so I don't have to look at time"? Cuz that's what you're suggesting for 1/3 of the population.

Without fuel costs? What about equipment costs? Remove the subsidies and renewables are still more expensive. And it's only a matter of time before the subsidies go away.

Odds are, you'll be running your fingers across other controls that you don't want to activate trying to find the one you do. By the time you come up with a design to avoid that, you might as well have stayed with physical knobs.

If you need workarounds to make the "new, better technology" at least safe compared to the old, the new technology is shit.

I wouldn't want to be Microsoft would be afraid of being caught these days. What were the consequences of the last antitrust case? Pretty much nothing. And the current political climate give far less of a crap about such things.

And they've screwed with Chrome before.

You know how when you download something, you get a little icon in the upper right showing the progress, and a little window you can click on to run the downloaded file when it's done? Always worked for every installer - except Chrome. The download would be there, but the convenient link to launch it wouldn't be. It's only recently they've stopped doing that.

You appear to have considerable expertise, or perhaps experience, in this.

If your phone case is over .5 cm thick, I don't think the range of NFC is your problem.

When the movie is too boring to even suck, the audience will entertain itself.

In Amazon's case, I'm having a hard time believing they'll replace people they can treat as slaves with machines that don't care how much you abuse them. I mean, really, how superior can you feel to a machine?