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Comment Re:Wrong approach (Score 1) 83

Something like 20% of all car sales are trucks.

The implication of course being that a substantial fraction on the entire country, after their weekly 9-5 grind and school run lines to kick back, have a few beers and haul trailers all weekend!

Though I think that's why a lot of people buy trucks, it's the idea that you might be the kind of rugged person who needs a truck, or at least the kind of rugged person for whom a truck is better than a car (even if a van would be superior).

And rugged men haul things (truckers I suppose being the epitome of manliness next to lumberjacks), so you gotta have rowing capacity even if you don't have a boat yet.

Comment Re:From "wrong product" to "wrong product" (Score 1) 83

While plenty of people buy trucks to just commute, most of trucks are still work/tow vehicles and EV trucks are not practical or cheap enough to be that.

You've got some weird ideas about how vehicles are used. Most of these trucks are not used for any kind of real work https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.powernationtv.com%2F... and even when they are another large block of them are used for such things once a year at most.

Sure, as a work truck EVs aren't great but trucks are so stupid popular nowadays most owners just don't have a use for long range towing or hauling.

Comment Re:Stalling tactic? (Score 1) 83

It feels like you're operating with electric car stats from a decade ago. There are tons of electrics nowadays that do 300 miles+ https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews... . They work fine for primary vehicles and I've seen a number of people using them as such.

Comment Re:Wrong approach (Score 1) 83

Nobody who needs a pickup is going to pay a min of $60k for one that can only tow for 100 miles before recharging.

Towing shouldn't be the make or break issues you're suggesting given that something like 2/3rds of the big trucks around me don't have trailer hitches. In suburbia and urban areas these vehicles are often used exactly like cars, there's no reason an electric wouldn't work just as well for these people.

Comment Re:You know your post stopped being believable (Score 1) 83

Going off what I see around me the range of the Lightning when it's loaded is an irrelevant concern for most drivers as it's not bought for any form of real hauling or work. I'm sure it's different in rural areas but around here most of these small tanks are used exactly the same as a car would be.

Comment Re:Rejected the AMZN Aquisition? (Score 1) 95

If instead of "The internet", whatever that means,

Are you really that stupid?

you go to pretty much any store

let me introduce you to a thing called "the internet" when you can visit stores from the comfort of your chair.

you'll quickly notice that all of the most popular models

Ho do you gauge popularity? Seems there are both kinds on sale, with LiDAR ones being more expensive, on the whole.

sold are lidar models.

You said they don't use lidar, before. Now you're saying lidar is more popular. Please make up your mind.

LiDAR is the newer tech. The first gen used what another poster described as the cockroach algorithm. Second gen used cameras and vision based SLAM. Third gen use lidar.

Comment Re: Wrong approach (Score 1) 83

Ford is a real mixed bag, I'm not a superfan by any means, or even a fan frankly. I've bought two Ford pickups and regretted them both. But I also got frankly some of the worst examples, one of them was supposed to have been worked on and it turned out it was rebuilt incorrectly and the other was a 7.3 IDI with a turbo and I didn't know about their weak blocks at the time. But I also had a V6 Aero Bird which was a shockingly good car, and have only respect for the 80s F150 with the 300ci straight six even though I'd rather have a '60s Chevy with a 292.

The F150 Lightning also isn't a good enough truck for what they charged for it. Ford was banking on a larger supply of suckers. I'd love to own one, but I'm sure not shopping in that market segment. Ford also didn't plan to ever offer the Lightning I wanted, a tradesman model with the big battery.

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