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Comment Re:BETTER Mitigation (Score 1) 66

Non-systemd Debian and more and more Devuan here. This is not a high criticality vulnerability, but, after the sshd near-disaster, the second time not running systemd proves to be the right decision.

I can't hear "Debian" and "sshd" and "disaster" in the same sentence without thinking of https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearch.swtch.com%2Fope... (the OpenSSL bug from September 2006). It really took me a minute to realize you were talking about the xz-utils attack.

Comment Re: as long as... (Score 4, Insightful) 45

From a server perspective I get it a little, but all those changes make sense on a Linux desktop/laptop. The reason I'm so passionate about this is the people: I'm an oss developer myself, with lots of friends who work at various enterprise Linux houses -- they all are smart people with reasons for what they do. Many of the anti systemd arguments are couched in conspiracy theories or ideas that something sinister is manipulating things instead of wondering maybe these people know something I don't know? Even more in that direction is that so many major distributions have also accepted these pieces as basic building blocks. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are alternatives for people who want them (I work on Gentoo and openrc is good), but I just wish folks who like those alternatives wouldn't act like they're being appointed because the free software they've been given isn't exactly to their liking.

Comment Re:as long as... (Score 3, Insightful) 45

By systemd people, do you mean the folks who work full time producing linux distros that utilize systemd? aka the vast majority of professional linux programmers? It's been years. We have systemd. Everyone has systemd. You can use other things if you don't want systemd (deuvan, gentoo w/openrc), but this continued cult-hatred for "systemd people" is completely weird to me. How many decades will it take before folks stop being salty about having to learn a new way of doing things.

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