Comment As if any of these fucks would listen to victims (Score 1) 42
That kind of naivety is why we can't actually solve problems.
Firstly most CO2 is not from industry, it's less than about a third in America.
Eh, fair- but it should have been obvious what I meant from the context of the paragraph- non-Residential-private-citizen-usage.
Most importantly this industry isn't just producing CO2 for fun. It's for the people who want stuff. So you should base it off of consumption and not production if that's the direction you want to go. (Consumption done by the people...)
No, because it's the producer that's engaging in the level of inefficiency- not the consumer.
You can argue that the consumer is vaguely aware that buying shit from China is terrible for the environment, but if you're trying to argue that CO2 isn't an externality, this is going to get amusing.
I wonder if China is the worlds biggest exporter and America the worlds biggest importer...
So, if I get this right, Americans are responsible for Chinese fueling their factories with coal. Is that correct?
Again your just "allowing" Americans to pollute much more because they're richer and can pay higher prices for stuff. (stuff you're attempting to blame China for making for you)
I'm not blaming China for anything- I'm pointing out the complexity of the situation.
I said you can't simply say, "per-capita", because the picture is insanely more complicated than that.
Chinese per-capita usage is going to explode (it's already exploding) as more and more of their 85 year old pig farmers die and are replaced by people who actually use their electrical grid. You can't compare the Chinese population's personal energy usage with any first world country.
The average for all of China is just a little over 1.1kW constant load for each person.
Think about that.
While all Chinese people may be connected to the grid (or so I read), many are obviously not using power at all.
Yeah? I mean if you're trying to see if your country is doing well or badly then you are best of comparing it to countries that are in some way comparable. Compared to much of western Europe, yeah the UK is doing decently well in this regard. Not the best, but pretty highly ranked.
And still twice as bad as the Netherlands, and the EU on average? 5x worse than the Netherlands!
Why do you guys suck so bad?
London has 116 murders from a population of 15 million. The US has 41000 road deaths from a population of 340e6. So you're 15 times as likely to die on the roads in America as you are likely to be murdered in London. But if you insist on just pedestrians that was just 7500, meaning you're only 3x as likely to die as a pedestrian in America as you are to be murdered in London.
Well, I said victim of violent crime, not murder
Speaking of which, you're almost twice as likely to be murdered in London than to be killed by a car. You people have funny priorities.
The part you don't fucking get about any of this, is the cultures are different.
You have a safety culture. Every fucking square inch of your country is covered in CCTV cameras that the police can access without warrant.
That's not the culture we have.
If we wanted that culture- we'd have it.
Our culture is probably not for you, and your culture is very definitely not for us.
I thought this was settled back in 1781 when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington, but who knows.
Your generalizations are stupid. The most dangerous state in the US for pedestrians is fucking New Mexico. It's not because of stroads.
Are stroads a good idea, or bad? Who knows- who's to say. There's arguments in either direction, but no strong evidence. But you call it objective. You need to pull your head out of your own ass, you limey fuck.
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