Comment Ignore this troll. (was Re:It doesn't) (Score 2) 142
No, it really doesn’t. And neither does your post. What it does is hijack a discussion about the loss of a vital climate data resource—critical to public safety and long-term economic planning—and derail it into a jaded screed about how “everyone is too immature to save democracy.” It’s a logic fire sale: false dilemmas, bad-faith assumptions, historical revisionism, and a parade of straw men so dense they’d block NOAA radar. You hijacked a vital discussion about the loss of scientific transparency in disaster data and climate response, and replaced it with lazy cynicism, bad history, and a cascade of logical fallacies. The only thing bipartisan here is the contempt you show for every side of the debate—while contributing nothing but noise.
Trump can basically do anything he wants and no one can stop him because the only serious threat to his power is that the Democrats would win in a landslide taking a supermajority in the Senate.
Fallacy: False Dilemma.
You’re setting up a binary where either Democrats win a supermajority or Trump becomes omnipotent. That’s not how power works in a system with multiple levers—courts, states, civil society, investigative journalism, and yes, voting. This statement is defeatism masquerading as analysis.
In order for that to happen the Democrats would have to wield the power they have in order to shut down voter suppression. This would involve basically ignoring court orders as needed...
Fallacy: Advocating Lawlessness as Strategy.
You just argued that Trump is a threat because he breaks democratic norms. Your solution is for the opposition to also break democratic norms? That’s not fighting fire with fire—that’s burning the Constitution to own the fascists.
They absolutely have the power to do it but the problem is the kind of centrist Democrat who would be in charge... does not under any circumstances want to wield power.
Fallacy: Straw Man.
You’ve built a caricature of centrists as ritual-obsessed cowards. It’s convenient for your rant, but it ignores real-world cases where they’ve pushed legislation, defended voting rights, or reformed procedures—just not always with the reckless abandon you demand.
Now ordinarily what would happen is the left wing of the party and the left wing Independence would give them a kick in the rear...
Fallacy: Nostalgia-Based Reasoning.
There’s no historical basis for your fantasy scenario. When exactly did the far-left successfully prod moderates into coordinated voter-rights action in defiance of court orders? Oh, right—never.
The problem with that is the left wing doesn't really want to stop voter suppression...
Fallacy: Motive Fallacy + Projection.
Claiming the left “doesn’t want” to stop voter suppression is not just bad faith—it’s maliciously dishonest. There are entire orgs, movements, and lawsuits dedicated to this effort, many led by those very progressives you sneer at.
They have a childish dream of kids 18 to 24 showing up to vote in droves...
Fallacy: Ad Hominem.
Mocking younger voters as delusional ignores data showing that Gen Z turnout is rising and increasingly decisive. Is it idealistic to want better policy from younger, more climate-conscious voters? Sure. But idealism isn’t immaturity. Dismissing it as such is cynical rot.
...they have literally been trying to achieve that for so long that the 18 to 24 set they originally started working on are in their 60s and voted overwhelmingly for Trump...
Fallacy: Historical Revisionism.
Boomers were never “targeted by the left” in their 20s to enact Scandinavian welfare states. That’s a fever dream with no citation. Boomers have been a slim majority in his column, not a monolithic voting bloc. In 2016 and 2020, voters aged 65+ gave Trump 52%; in 2024, that slipped to 51%. That’s not overwhelming—that’s barely treading water in an increasingly aging demographic pool, and that support is actually decreasing. Misrepresenting that as generational fanaticism isn’t just lazy, it’s you lying with a straight face, period.
Basically we are a nation of 12-year-olds. We act like children. Left right up down center doesn't matter...
Fallacy: Hasty Generalization.
This rhetorical nuke is supposed to sound profound, but it collapses under its own weight. If everyone is childish, then no one can be reasoned with—which conveniently excuses you from offering actual solutions.
It's possible the sheer incompetence of Donald Trump and everyone around him might save us again...
Logical inconsistency.
You just claimed Trump can “do whatever he wants,” but now you're hoping his own ineptitude might doom his plans? Pick a narrative and stick to it. Or better yet—engage with the article topic you’re hijacking.
I suspect the whole country is going to turn into a fascist dictatorship like China and or Russia...
Fallacy: Slippery Slope + Fear-Mongering.
You’ve now left the realm of argument and entered a nihilistic prophecy. This is political clickbait disguised as despair. It’s emotionally manipulative, analytically hollow, and contextually inappropriate given the thread topic.
I hope my kid can flee the country when it happens and that Europe has enough nukes... I'm also hoping to die before the worst of it.
Emotional Blackmail.
This level of performative doomcasting is designed to shut down debate, not invite it. And it does nothing to advance understanding of why cutting a disaster database during an era of record-breaking billion-dollar weather events is outrageously shortsighted.
Would love to be proven wrong but I have watched these last several months...
Fallacy: Anecdotal Fallacy.
Your political despair, while real, is not evidence. And it does not justify hijacking a thread about weather disaster data loss to rehash your disillusionment with the Democratic Party.
Every now and then one of the lefties realizes how fuck they are and does a screed... they're hobbyists in it for the fun so that's not going to happen.
Fallacy: Poisoning the Well.
You don’t get to accuse others of being unserious while writing an off-topic rant with zero citations, no actionable suggestions, and maximal contempt for everyone involved.