Before leaving the charger, you can see your next charging stop and the expected arrival SoC (state of charge). Only an idiot would leave a charger without having enough battery. You can also choose to charge more and skip the next charger - for example, if youÃ(TM)re stopping for lunch.

Sounds like a pain in the ass to me.

With my normal car (ICE), I don't have to 'plan' my trip based on where I have to fuel up....with the few exceptions of extremity, like crossing a few desert areas in the US, but for the majority of the US....there's a gas station on every corner in a city and all long the highways....you don't have to know where...they're just there whenever you need them.

And...gas is getting so cheap again too.....

Last time I used one of those apps to find chargers in my area....I found precious few for the whole city area that were public.....

I've only seen a few in a Whole Foods parking lot, and I think there were some in a Winn-Dixie parking lot.

But the few the apps showed were mostly private chargers.

so, living here if you can't charge at home, you're pretty screwed.....EV is just not the way to go around here in the New Orleans area.

With TCO it is cheaper to put there bigger battery and remove the ICE. But most of the new car buyers cannot calculate TCO and they care only about purchase price.

Well, you also have to consider the large number of people that do not have the capability to charge at home.

If you cannot charge at home, then an EV just doesn't not make much sense in most of the US.

Seriously, anyone using a smart TV should have it extremely limited with what it can reach on the internet, and really, probably should have it blocked entirely. I mean, we have cameras in TV's that take photos of who is in the room, and internal snapshots of what is being displayed on the HDMI connections so that it can lookup the show/video/content and match against what (male/female, baby/toddler/child/teen/young adult/adult/senior) and how many people are watching it.

If your computer connects to your TV via HDMI, they already know.

Eto lish' pokazyvayet, naskol'ko plokho oni znayut russkiy yazyk.

Most of the range anxiety goes away once you see how effective overnight charging is.

If, in fact, you are one of those lucky enough to be able to park offstreet and charge at home overnight....

Depends where in the world you live. For the hundreds of millions of people living in Europe or countries like Singapore or Malaysia, thereâ(TM)s no need for a second car. People take the train for longer journeys. I was 43, married, with two kids aged 9 and 11, before I got a first car ten years ago - and it only had a range of 90 miles. I live in north London, and we just didnâ(TM)t have much need for a car up to that point. When we went to see my parents in Manchester, it was easier to get the train.

We're talking the US...and here it's hard to get by with only 1 car per family, although it can be done.

But in most middle class and up families, eventually everyone in the household has their own car.

Exactly this. People are not buying these large EVs without mandates or subsidies

This is the US.

The govt is supposed to be answerable to the people, not the other way around.

If the EVs can't compete on price and convenience without subsidies or even worse..."mandates", then they deserve to rot and it is not the governments business to step in and force people to to buy what they don't want, or is not ready for the market to compete for the consumers money....

The implication of course being that a substantial fraction on the entire country, after their weekly 9-5 grind and school run lines to kick back, have a few beers and haul trailers all weekend!

LOTS of boats down here where I live....lots of folks haut their boats to the launches and drop/pick them up over any given weekend...and often during the weeks for some people....

Myopic to the point of sociopathy.

It's only sociopathic IF you believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that through action or inaction to go EV only...that the world willl end soon. I'm not chicken little in mentality....so,.....

However, there's no convincing you that you might be wrong or just off a bit, Your ego won't allow it....your extreme view is the ONLY view....right?

Same sad asshole making the same sad remarks. Don't like it? Move to Russia.

Why should I?

I live in the US.

I echo the same sentiments are pretty much most of the US...

Why don't YOU move to Russia and try to force them to go all EV...?

We know this argument is total bad faith bullshit because the same folks making it also hate and refuse to support forms of public transport or really anything that would reduce car dependency. AKA "my conservative media diet has convinced me a gasoline burning engine must be central to my personal and political self definition"

Media doesn't have anything to do with my views on this...

I just know what I've grown up with and what I enjoy and fits into my lifestyle.

I've never had to depend on public transport, and it just isn't realistically a part of my life since I do not and will not live in dense urban areas, sharing walls in apartments like college students.

I likely wouldn't mind an EV if they had a reasonably priced 2-seater sports car version...instead of family tricksters.

But aside from not offering anything I'm interested in, I don't have a way to charge at home, so not really something that works for me and there is precious little public charging infrastructure where I live...and if you cannot charge at home over night, it just is not as convenient to own and refuel as needed as an regular ICE.

I like my motorcycle too....EV cycles REALLY aren't as effective or fun as ICE ones...range sucks if nothing else.

I like what I have....I see no reason to change. I don't give a fuck about giving up my long lived and enjoyed lifestyle to "save the planet".

I enjoy my "car dependency".....it suits the way I live and how I want to live. I don't seem to be alone in this....and don't want to be 'forced' to change for other peoples' perceived reasons.

Great, let's mandate piling on nothing but EVs....as sole method of transportation on top of the struggling grid/infrastructure before we're ready for it...

My memories of college include feeling lucky if I had enough quarters to do laundry!

My memories of college include seeking lucky if I GOT LUCKY (ie got laid).

Oh to be a young lad chasing tail in the days when it was easy to just be boys and girls and no one had fear of false allegations, willfully fucking and no one yelling rape....or being put on blast on non-existent social media or having a fucking camera everywhere......those were the days.