This was started before Trump was president. Under Biden, Obama and pretty much every president going all the way back to the startup of all of the alphabet government agencies. But, because Trump is the president, this is HIS fault?

I just wish websites would find another way to "prove I'm not a robot". Sick of the popup that you have to checkmark that has cloudflare stamped on it.

The entire FUD about safety is really about cost. OpenAI and Antropic are losing money on every token. Google's cost is a fraction while still making profits.
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Google 4 Argon ranks #1 with 1525 score and $2/$10 pricing for 1M tokens.
Claude Fable 5 ranks #3 with 1505 score but $10/$50 pricing for 1M tokens.
OpenAI 5.6 Sol barely makes top 20 with a 1484 score with a $4/$20 for 1M tokens.

Sam and Dario appreciate anyone who wants to subsidize their investors by paying 5x token costs.
Meanwhile, Tom's Hardware is reporting AI token pricing is 50% cheaper every quarter. It's hard to make profits to repay early investors when you keep losing money on every token OpenAI and Anthropic handles.

Go into a Walmart, on an "off" day...say 10-11 am, during the week. Buy staples such as milk, bread etc. Keep a copy of the receipt. Then go back in, say right before a major weather event, holiday etc, buy the EXACT same items and see if the price changes a lot.

Your logic is backwards - how many people are SAVED from the use of machines that provide refrigeration?
The CDC estimates that roughly 3,000 Americans die from foodborne illnesses each year, which is a small fraction of historical mortality rates due to the constant use of home and commercial chillers.

Expanding refrigeration to air conditioning, an estimated 175,000 people die from heat-related causes each year in Europe according to the UN World Health Organization. Use of air conditioning "machines" could have saved those 175,000 each year in Europe alone.

Life is deadly, but machines like Waymo, refrigerators, and air conditioning actually make death and injury much less likely.

I always figured that people who genuinely believed their employers were likely to kill literally everybody in the near future might burn down a bit more than that, but so far it's mostly been tweets

It makes me wonder...all the time/money they've already spent on AI, NOW they are saying wait a minute! We need to stop and think! Yeah right. I'll betcha the Chinese have made a lot of them a "deal" that if they build all the stuff in China, they will be so rich they won't be able to handle it. Just go look out in the desert areas of China, 3735'01.76"N 10452'12.78"E Huge Solar panels & Solar mirrors, along with a huge lake. One measures 12,694,935.03 m, another is 4,902,584.36 m And there are SEVERAL in that area! I've found 3-4 out in the desert areas of China and not that many towns/cities that could use that power. "oh, but they transmit it to larger cities". Yeah right. China is hoping all of the negative press will scare them off and then they will build them in China. And once that happens, CHINA will end up with the data. And THAT will not be good for the rest of the world.

Since GPT2.0 the cost of tokens has dropped by 99.9% - A verifiable number that blows away Moore's law for computing. Nvidia depends on AI companies to buy GPUs. OpenAI and friends received funding rounds based on anticipated profits that were calculated from what they could charge for tokens. Google has driven the cost of tokens down using the custom silicon they have developed in-house in 2014, the TPU. In 2025 alone, Google pushed prices down another 78%. This massive hardware efficiency allows Google to launch models like Gemini 3.5 Flash-Lite, pricing input tokens as low as $0.10 to $0.30 per 1 Million tokens, forcing OpenAI and Anthropic to consistently cut their own model prices to remain competitive. The problem for OpenAI is that they are losing money while Google is making a profits.

By selling fear, OpenAI and friends get excuses to give investors on why their profits have not materialized as promised. Meanwhile, Google will continue to drink everyone's milkshake by pursuing a free-market based Netscape vs IE strategy of driving the price of tokens to zero. Eventually, Nvidia will have to refocus on making GPUs for our gaming PCs.

Having to poke through an about: page and find the thing to toggle to turn off this specific AI feature but not that one, and knowing they'd change it on you a couple of releases later, never filled me with confidence.

One switch in a readily discoverable location in the settings menu and it's all gone? Just the job, killed it now on the laptop and the mobile both.

There is pushback on Flock, and, from some of the stories where officers were using them to "follow" someone for a date or what not, yes, they need to be held accountable. With a huge system, comes huge responsibility, and unfortunately, a lot of humans don't have that. But, what will probably happen, is some huge "9/11" type event will happen, that perhaps the flock cameras could have tracked or help prevent and just like with 9/11, the public will "demand" government do something about it. After 9/11, the TSA came along. Now, you get to show up at the airport an hour or more to be searched, in some cases groped, you can't take shampoo on board with you, you can't do this, you can't do that, you have to have a "real ID" to fly and on and on. You can bet, that if something happens that perhaps a flock could have helped in some way, the public will demand Washington do something. And, politicians, D or R, will jump on that, and VOLLA! Cameras everywhere, tracking everyone, not just in vehicles, but walking, bicycles etc. And don't think that eventually, they will start sending you tickets for speeding, or jaywalking thanks to the cameras. Heck, with all of the connectivity/GPS in vehicles, I'm surprised they don't send tickets already! And, perhaps states will get rid of the "gas tax" and other fees and just tax you based on how many miles you drive, thanks to the cameras & connectivity on your vehicle. It's happened before...it will happen again.

And so much for the "less expensive" uber/lyft rides now that the UNIONS will jack up rates so they can get THEIR cut!

Now apply this same logic of parental blame vs sensible legislation to other risks to children, including guns, drugs, etc.

Also, this law just ensures the next series of debates and laws around what exactly is clear and identifiable definitions of "addictive feeds".

This is why they're so keen on robots. They want guards whose loyalty they can really count on when the mob shows up with a guillotine.

That one might surrender and meekly accept their likely death at the hands of the machine, I can believe. But all of them? This isn't the first such claim we've heard about AI danger.

I believe that Yudkowsky believes what he says he believes, for example. He says shut them all down worldwide, immediately, and if there are rogue nations who don't go along with it then launch air strikes on their data centres - even against a nuclear state. He said that three years ago. That's the thinking of a man who believes it's genuinely likely that the machines will kill us all in the near future.

And this is still considered extremist lunacy. That tells me the rest of them don't believe what he does.

The general public should care because there's apparently a good chance these machines are going to kill them all, very soon.

They don't care because they don't believe that.

When some AI agent of theirs, trying to meet a developer's benchmark test, eventually hacks the power grid or the water supply to a metropolis to help itself to a way around a sandbox environment, then the general public will care. And when that happens they may well drag AI industry CEOs and researchers out of their beds to the nearest lamp-post.