can we dispense with players too? robo players are definitely more entertaining,and much cheaper...

I will consider quitting smoking or doing any other things that "might be harmful to me" even though i smoke since 12, 41 now and semi pro athlete...when they outlaw fatties, put em in diet camps and ban fast food... until then fuck off. I will do whatever the hell i want with my own life.

US routinely both openly and covertly doing everything it can to subvert political process in many many countries incl Russia to its own favor. It has been documented myriad times and is an absolute fact... why are they so upset to taste their own medicine. Funnily enough Rusia ( if indeed sponsored by Kremlin - questionable at best ) didnt even need to make things up, just publish information hidden from US public exposing DNC for what it is... bunch of fakes. so.. chill?

been doing smoke signals and pigeons for years...

wtf are you talking about, ring aint cheap, but cheap chinese cam costs 20usd incl shipping and will serve just as well in this case. also, anyone can install one and could for years. the only thing ring has better is the cloud model and some closed allround approach ( getting bought by amazon helped too )