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I wrote a blog entry, where I briefly discuss my opinion on the presidential race so far.

What I have not mentioned there is the recent finding(s) that Obama's lead is gradually slipping nation-wide. That tells me that Hillary (heh. I almost wrote "Hellary". That's a Freudian slip, if ever there was one) stands a better chance of beating Barak Obama.

I'm really not happy with any of the major contenders this cycle, and there isn't much we can do about it. :(

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  • To answer your question of what should one do when they feel like they are voting against someone instead of voting for someone when the whole field of options is pretty much a disappointment, it depends.

    Clinton or Obama are not options (for a conservative), and McCain while being head and shoulders above either of them is still a great disappointment. For a person left in that situation they have to consider what their options are, and ideally also realize the option of voting for none of them.

    Realistical
    • It still amuses me that conservatives feel so disenfranchised this year, especially when you consider the following:

      There will be no universal healthcare.

      There will be no comprehensive integrated national mass transit system.

      There will be no comprehensive integrated energy policy incorporating fossil-based and renewable energy sources.

      There will be no comprehensive integrated employment and job training programs.

      There will be no comprehensive integrated immigration policy.

      There will be no rev

      • If Cuba breaks the lease, there WILL be an invasion. You can bet on it. Castro's long reign is no accident. He was a protected asset for a reason, and he was a bit more discrete than Lucky Luciano. And all our commercial interests in Cuba can remain safely off the books, making it much more profitable. The idealists on either side will not be allowed to meddle with business no matter who "wins" the election.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by FroMan ( 111520 )
        There will be no universal healthcare.

        Only if McCain wins. So he holds to private healthcare, good.

        There will be no comprehensive integrated national mass transit system.

        This was on the table? That is news to me. I do not believe there is demand for this at all in the US.

        There will be no comprehensive integrated energy policy incorporating fossil-based and renewable energy sources.

        Factually incorrect: McCain supports nuclear and renewable energy.

        Nor will their be drilling in ANWR. There is no reason no
      • Honestly, saying McCain's not conservative enough just makes you guys look all the more like the wingnuts of your party.

        Two thoughts:
        1) Then you can imagine how you look to us.
        2) I do feel like some kind of "wingnut" of my party, as I had no idea there were so dang many Liberal Republicans. I just took for granted that the GOP was mostly filled with Conservatives, but I may have been very wrong. If the GOP is becoming Democrat Party Lite, well, look forward to winning more elections and getting more of your

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Timex ( 11710 ) *

        There will be no universal healthcare.

        I'm not sure there should be, at least at the federal level. Massachusetts, that Bastion of Liberal Livelihood, thought that the best approach was to mandate health care. What does that do? Bloody-well nothing. People that can't afford it still can't afford it. If you don't have it, you get penalized in one way or another.

        What I'd like to see on the level of health care is done mostly through other channels. When they are caught stuffing their fees so they get more from the insurance companies, they

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by Timex ( 11710 ) *
          I re-read this and I felt that a couple points needed to be explained. I had other bits in there that I chose to take out, and I forgot to re-phrase the remaining sentences so they would make sense...

          What I'd like to see on the level of health care is done mostly through other channels. When they are caught stuffing their fees so they get more from the insurance companies, they should be penalized.

          The "they" here would be doctors.

          Of course, that means we have to examine why the doctors' offices feel the need to pad their fees. Thank people that are truly "court happy". It's one thing when a doctor cannot perform to a standard, but when they have to raise rates to cover malpractice insurance rates... well... let's just say it's a vicious cycle.

          Penalizing doctors that are truly incompetent is one thing. Penalizing doctors whose only "wrong" was accepting a patient that is lawsuit-happy is quite another. Come on-- there's a reason they say that doctors practice medicine. Doctors are basically using "cause and effe

      • /me feels a strong need to point out that it is wingnuts that secure the bolts that hold things together...
        • Different type of wingnut, darling.
          • As far as I am concerned, the metaphor is an apt one. Without its core, conservative values, the Republican party may as well marry into the Democratic party and have done with it.

            And, call me a "wingnut", a conservative, a Christian, a freak, what have you-- nobody calls me darling but my husband.

            • Re: (Score:1)

              by Timex ( 11710 ) *

              nobody calls me darling but my husband.

              Yeah! What you said! (You beat me to it...)

              For the rest of you all:
              I think "wingnut" is as relative a term as "strange": what *I* consider to be a "wingnut" is "normal" to Liberals, and what they think of as a "wingnut" is, well... You get the general idea.

              Either way, not everyone can be right, and as much as today's society may like to disagree, there are many things that are cut-n-dried black-white issues, not many shades of gray.

            • ...the Republican party may as well marry into the Democratic party and have done with it.

              Hell, they got hitched long before I was born. It's weirder than the Patty Duke Show.

              *Still, they're cousins,
              Identical cousins and you'll find,
              They laugh alike, they walk alike,
              At times they even talk alike --
              You can lose your mind,
              When cousins are two of a kind.*

              nobody calls me darling but my husband.

              Just don't get run over by a damned old train [jpshrine.org]
    • Reagan... He's that Iran/Contra guy, right? And he's also the guy who wanted to feed all his Wall Street buddies with the small "expectation" that there would be more crumbs dropped on the floor for the rest of the country? With the result being that now the average family needs at least two income earners? This is the guy who set the tone for what happened over the weekend with Bear Stearns, and will continue to happen for the foreseeable future. Nanny state indeed. If anybody is distorting his name, it wo
  • He has a wife who hates America and a preacher who hates America, and he's stuck by both of them for 20 years. He can sound as reasonable as he wants in his speeches, but if in his life if those he keeps around him are (shockingly) unreasonable people, ...

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Timex ( 11710 ) *

      He can sound as reasonable as he wants in his speeches, but if in his life if those he keeps around him are (shockingly) unreasonable people, ...
      It is said that one may tell a man by the company he keeps. I don't think any more can be said on that issue.
      • It is said that one may tell a man by the company he keeps.

        Can I apply that to George Bush/Ken Lay and John McCain/Charles Keating and Hillary/take-your-pick also? It would seem to me that their actions demonstrate more hatred against America than a couple of speeches that were likely taken out of context. Maybe it's not right, but I carry a bit more animosity towards real crooks than I do against passionate speakers, regardless of how disagreeable the speech might be. Besides, a speech means nothing if it

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by Timex ( 11710 ) *
          You'll notice that I didn't apply my comment to any particular person, because it can be used in any situation.

          Obama's voting record speaks for itself. I'm not disputing that, one way or the other. I can (and will) draw certain assumptions on what the man actually thinks, based on who he chooses to allow to be close to him personally.

          I know that I, myself, would not attend a church for more than 20 years, if I did not believe that everything coming from behind the pulpit was Truth. If I strongly disagree
          • The fact that he stayed there says something.

            Well, we're seeing the whole thing through a pinhole. If I was to consider voting for the man, I would investigate a bit more. As it is, I cannot judge, and will consider it as a distraction. Rather watch some Y & R.

            ...so the fact that you're excluding Obama from your list of "winners" has be a bit puzzled.

            It went without saying? I thought it would be redundant to reiterate what I thought was the subject of the journal. And yes, I do class them all quite clo
    • He can sound as reasonable as he wants in his speeches, but if in his life if those he keeps around him are (shockingly) unreasonable people, ...

      Yeah, it's pretty amazing what a little editing can do. Don't ever try walking in another man's shoes. You might get athletes foot.
    • He has a wife who hates America and a preacher who hates America...

      And you have a god [washingtonpost.com] that hates America.
      • Strike a nerve, did I? The truth hurts sometimes.

        What I can't figure out is, even if I was an attender of Fallwell or Robertson's services for 20 years, and even if I did hold them dear to my heart as friend and uncle and spiritual advisor, and even if they uttered not just stupid things but also violently racist things like Obama's pastor, why bring it up? It doesn't (in fact logically can't) diminish what Obama's pastor has said and what it means that Obama is sticking by him. And not just sticking by him
        • ??? Well, that made no sense, and is completely one sided. I'm merely pointing out that the exact same thing happened with Mr. Falwell and there was little, if any repudiation from the people he supports. I'm not diminishing anything. But it seems you are with respect to Falwell. And in light of the performance of the present administration with its impaired perception, poor judgment and decision-making ability, and a damn drunk driver to boot, Obama looks like a genius in comparison. But then, so would a k

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