Comment Re:Anoter ass trying to push AI "value"... (Score 1) 29
I don't think this is the kind of thing that you want to be confidently wrong about. Regulation makes sense when you consider what's at stake.
I don't think this is the kind of thing that you want to be confidently wrong about. Regulation makes sense when you consider what's at stake.
i admit i have no more answers that would compell you to understand (or admit?) that any attack on nuclear assets is a huge escalation threat under any circumstance is out of discussion and spelled out in black and white.
No it is your insistence that everything is a nuclear asset when it is not (like an air force base). You might have well said barracks for navy sailors is a nuclear asset because some of the sailors may someday serve on a nuclear sub. It is black and white: You are just wrong.
it doesn't get clearer than that. the fact that they were loaded or not is just naive, completely irrelevant to the matter.
If a plane is not carrying a nuclear missile. It's not a nuclear asset. My cousin knows someone in the air force. According to you, my cousin is a nuclear asset.
you might hold interesting views about the issue i'd ofc like to read, but i see no point in discussing it further on such a basic misunderstanding (or misrepresentiation?) of how nuclear deterrence works.
No I understand perfectly. It is you that is mistaken. Attacking a military base after being invaded is a provocation to you. That's how IDIOTIC you are.
I think it's interesting that the hype includes calls for regulation though. These people are genuinely concerned about AI getting out of hand, and they're in a better position to assess danger than you or I.
that's not really relevant.
Of course it is. All of Russia's strategic bombers can carry nuclear tipped cruise missiles. That does not mean they do not carry non-nuclear ones. Also those bombers are not carrying nuclear missiles 24/7. Destroying a strategic bomber sitting on the ground not carrying nuclear cruise missiles is a problem, how?
those are the bombers you would use if you needed to deliver nuclear payloads
Again they were parked NOT carrying any ordinance. Well, they were. Some of their ashes are probably in a big trash pile now.
which is a no go and this has been clear in every strategic arms agreement since salt,
Baahahahahaha. Russia expects others to abide by agreements they said they will not.
Bw russia recently readjusted their nuclear use doctrine where afaik any attack with conventional weapons on any nuclear facility
Now, you're getting desperate if you think an air force base is a "nuclear facility".
on the other this is exactly what this is: a provocation.
Russia invaded Ukraine years ago. It is simply IDIOTIC to call this a "provocation" and you know it.
Russia pulled out of the treaty that required that a couple years ago...
Yes and Russia apparently never bothered to change their procedures and that's their problem. The main reason is Russia never built (and probably could not afford to build) fortified hangars to park all their bombers. Considering that some of these air bases are far from Ukraine, the probably thought they were safe.
The attack damaged a small few of their long range cruise missile launch aircraft, and s smattering of other obsolete soviet-era bombers and recon aircraft,
Dude, you just described Russia's entire bomber fleet as 100% of Russia's strategic bomber fleet is Soviet era. The last strategic bomber Soviet Union deployed was the Tu-160 in 1987. Russia has never deployed a newer bomber since then. Russia's strategic bomber fleet consists of Tu-95 (first service 1952), Tu-22M (1967), and Tu-160 (1987).
and zero long range strategic bomber.
Satellite photos from Belaya air base show both Tu-95s and other bombers destroyed as the Tu-95 is very distinctive from the other bombers. I do not have the expertise tell if Tu-22Ms or Tu-160s were destroyed and how many of each but some of them were definitely destroyed. And that is just one air base.
Russia is fighting Ukraine
We have speculation: Putin has always considered all former Soviet states as part of Russia. The will never be "independent" in his eyes.
If you were Ukraine, would you pass any intelligence about an operation you're about to engage in to Trump's CIA?
These bombers have been at these bases for a long time. The intelligence could have been a few years old and still valid as Russia was not likely to build a new base and hangars for bombers that were very far from the front lines (Belaya). So Trump's CIA would not need to be involved. Biden's CIA could have provided the intelligence.
Russia has never relied on a strategic bomber fleet in the way the US does.
That's because Russia does not have anything close to the capability the US has. In terms of just stealth, the retired F-117 Nighthawk, much less the newer B-2 Spirit, and its replacement the B-21 Raider are all far more advanced than Russian bombers. Just like the US relying on the B-52, there are reasons Russia still uses the Tu-95 Bear. However, the US has far newer bombers than Russia.
Russia has some newer bombers but those were not destroyed.
Satellite photos say otherwise. From the photos, it appears that 4 Tupolev Tu-22M or Tu-160s were destroyed in the one photo the AP was able to source.
these were nuclear capable strategic bombers. you do not touch them unless you want to invite untold trouble. ukraine is fucked anyway (mostly by its most dear "friends").
You do realize that "nuclear capable" means the bombers can carry nuclear weapons not that they always carry nuclear weapons. Just like nuclear capable bombers in other countries, these bombers are probably capable of carrying standard armament. It would make more sense that most of them had no armament at the time they were destroyed as generally planes are not carrying ordinance 24/7.
the only significance is that the car IS a character in the movie. she wouldn't be able to even attempt a suit otherwise.
I've only seen the last movie but how is the car a character? Other than the humans referring to the car as having character, it is just a car in the movie. Unlike other cars that are characters, Kitt (Knight Rider), Herbie (The Love Bug), and Christine, it does not speak nor perform any actions that is not standard for a car. The only thing it does is it stalled at an inconvenient time for Nicolas Cage. That's all the "personality" I was able to gather from the car.
Man is an animal that makes bargains: no other animal does this-- no dog exchanges bones with another. -- Adam Smith