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Comment Durable goods from commodity companies (Score 4, Informative) 54

I don't trust commodity-manufacturers who need to keep rapidly iterating their products to maintain profits to supply me with something intended to be affixed for the long term.

Even though Apple might do a better job than many vendors, they still release products that stop receiving updates and other maintenance long before the physical hardware is worn out. Something that's going to be with me for a very long time, like something permanently installed in my house, or something integrated into my car, is not something that I want from a commodities-supplying tech firm.

Comment Re:Where to begin (Score 1) 104

I'll bite, what sort of remote control can you do that isn't, some how, some way, using the Internet? You gonna lease RF spectrum and set up some kind of radio controls?

Well, dedicated/proprietary lines are a thing. I don't know about the cost:benefit ratio of deploying them for this in France would be, but it doesn't have to be RF like there's no other option. You can use regular wired network connections without routing through publicly addressable connections. That's a thing ATMs still sometimes do, at least in the US; it used to be ubiquitous but as encryption software has gotten better they've reportedly been relaxing this requirement, but banks still use dedicated lines for this. I used to work at a large investment bank that even used dedicated lines for international conference calls. AIUI, home DSL lines even typically (always?) start with a short run over a proprietary ATM backhaul.

I could not speak to the cost/benefit ratio in Europe, but in the United States, 1.544Mb on a Frame Relay would cost more than 1Gb on a Metro Ethernet fiber connection. I know because I retired a Nortel Meridian telephone system using T1 links specifically because it was costing more than the 1Gb and later 10Gb Metro Ethernet L2 MPLS connection and had far, far less flexibility. We migrated over to VOIP phones and saved a ton of money on the ~75 service entrances we were taking care of, and the VOIP traffic was a drop in the bucket on that network.

The only thing I could think of after my original post would be to contract with a cellular provider for a private APN (think similar to a VLAN or VRF for a subscriber with a ton of individual cellular endpoints, doesn't route to the outside like normal cell carriers' endpoints can) and then bringing that APN into a cloud instance with firewalling to prevent unauthorized traffic from the Internet from being able to hit the APN in the first place, but that still requires IT security practices.

The annoying thing about a private APN and using cellular is when the carriers change-up their gear it becomes necessary to replace the cellular endpoint equipment. I've seen this happen with security system cellular (no private APN) where the 2G gear had to be replaced, they went with 3G gear, only for that to also have to be replaced when the carrier wanted to go to a minimum of 4G LTE.

Comment Re:What pretext will puppet Trump invent now? (Score 1) 158

Given how quickly America came to disliking datacenters, seemingly as a real grassroots thing through hatred of techbros, hatred of higher energy prices to their own households, and hatred to water scarcity, seems like any complaint that Trump would make about it would simply lead to more backlash upon him.

Comment Re:Can anyone actually confirm? (Score 1) 104

I could see a fire starting in an electrical distribution panel if, once the problem was discovered, someone set all of the fridges in the building back down to proper temp and the startup demands exceeded the panel's ability to supply power, but that's more of an electrical equipment fault in being faulty or undersized rather than an IT fault.

Comment Re:Where to begin (Score 2) 104

First, they are refrigerators. They do not need to be connected to the internet and should not be, period. You want to remotely manage them? Use anything but the internet.

I'll bite, what sort of remote control can you do that isn't, some how, some way, using the Internet? You gonna lease RF spectrum and set up some kind of radio controls?

Second, why would you make them remotely accessible FROM ANY IP ADDRESS? Do you not know what a firewall is? A whitelist? Conditional access?

This is realistically where the failure sits, but it's unlikely that in an IPv4 network, that the IPs of the IoT endpoints would be directly exposed to the Internet as they'd normally be RFC1918 addresses and would require someone to explicitly set up inbound NAT rules to forward to those endpoints for them to be directly exposed. So the question then becomes, what as the method of exposure? Were they on Internet-routable IPv6 addresses where someone screwed up setting up security? Was some other method used to get into a private network, and from there they hopped through to these endpoints? Was the network security for the LAN the fridges were on actually done right, but the vendor's management tool breached and the tampering from "the cloud"?

Third, why the fuck would a REFRIGERATOR need the ability to COOK anything? Did someone forget the difference between Fahrenheit and Celsius and give them a max temp of 50C when it should've been 50F?

Fourth, vendors should be held liable for this shit. Manufacturers who provide always in fully connected devices should not get a "get out of liability free" card by saying "you should always upgrade to the latest firmware" and should be held accountable for producing REFRIGERATION units that can be turned into OVENS.

We don't really know if they actually got to 50C, just that they were set to that. For all we know they just shut off when the actual thermostat realized that the commanded temperature was higher than the actual temperature. But the point about liability still stands, and we don't know if they have any sort of privilege escalation based on type of administrator.

Fifth, and finally, as per the norm, I did not RTFA so maybe it mentioned this, but I'm willing to bet there were default passwords still in use. Yet another thing manufacturers should be held liable for. It shouldn't be possible to hook it up and start using it without configuration that requires setting reasonably secure credentials.

I did give it a skim. It looks to me like despite this being a supposedly industrial system, the company behind it neither understands IT security practices, no do their customers. This isn't exactly surprising, as HVAC technicians who are used to troubleshooting blown fuses, bad compressor pumps, and clogged heat exchangers are busy and the nature of IT security is shifting. It sounds like both the company behind the products and the customers made serious errors, very likely in the guise of keeping costs down by simply not addressing vulnerabilities.

I'm personally against industrial controls that connect back via normal outbound NAT like any other internal endpoint would that use destination port 443 for their communications. This is becoming increasingly common as BACnet traffic (typically on port 47808 and up) is replaced by BACnet Secure, which just uses normal SSL. Don't get me wrong, the old way on BACnet isn't exactly secure even when an enterprise customer sets up a VPN tunnel and forces all traffic from the particular equipment to the management cloud tool that traffic is unencrypted on the customer's network, but the SSL model along with cloud endpoints' IPs changing regularly as their various cloud hosts switch between AWS, Azure, and other providers means it's more difficult to determine if someone's internal endpoint is communicating with the only hosts that it should, or if it's compromised and connecting to some command-and-control server that looks superficially the same as normal traffic.

If I were investigating this, I'd start by getting the operational topology from the vendor that made the equipment and presumably the control software, and I'd start at the point most in-common among the victims. If the vendor itself was compromised then there's the problem. If the vendor wasn't compromised, I'd start to look at how the protocols on these systems work and what sort of opportunity there was for interception to learn of the endpoints in order to build out the profile used for the attack. I'd then want to review the actual faults that the vendor supposedly warned their customers about.

Unfortunately good IT security is expensive, and I expect that most businesses adopted these supposedly smart commercial refrigerator controls to save money, not to spend more on it. They might well have been better off to just install Internet-connected temperature sensors that had no actual control capability, where a central monitoring room could call the customer if a fridge was being reported as outside of the proper temp range, so that the customer could engage a technician to troubleshoot. But instead they tried to go even cheaper by centralizing all of it, to a fault.

Comment if it was about mental health we would shift time (Score 1) 281

If it was about health outcome, we would shift our time to adapt to the sun. But we don't we have, for example, 8h-17h always , winter and summer. That's what is unhealthy - our biology is adapted to do our activity with sun rise/sun set - not with a fix time DST or not does not change that much.

Comment There are measurement you can do to verify that. (Score 3, Informative) 17

Quiet a few astronomical observation on very distant galaxy (so ancient light) shows that some of the fine structure constant did not change with time, or changed less than 10^-5 of its value (https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fabs%2Fastro-ph%2F9803165), maybe somebody has a more recent article on whether that alpha change was confirmed or not.

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