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Comment Theft reduced by other economies getting stronger? (Score 1) 86

As I suggested in 2011 in this video, theft may rise if people lose faith in the exchange economy. Other interwoven economies of subsistence, gift, exchange, and planned could also alternatively take up the slack if they were improves -- instead of people becoming more inclined to crime.
"Five Interwoven Economies: Subsistence, Gift, Exchange, Planned, and Theft"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F...
"This video presents a simplified education model about socioeconomics and technological change. It discusses five interwoven economies (subsistence, gift, exchange, planned, and theft) and how the balance will shift with cultural changes and technological changes. It suggests that things like a basic income, better planning, improved subsistence, and an expanded gift economy can compensate in part for an exchange economy that is having problems."

My thanks to a Slashdot commentator many years ago who suggested I add a "theft" economy to the other four.

So, my hypothesis is that theft around SF could be substantially reduced if some mix of these were made to happen:
1. It was easier to do subsistence production (like using 3D printers, solar panels, and gardening robots etc.)
2. the SF gift economy (charity, sharing, freecycle, free 3D models, etc) was stronger.
3. the California exchange economy was working better for everyone (i.e. less wealth concentration through inflated property prices, limits on multiples of CEO pay vs lowest paid worker, a basic income, etc)
4. the California planned economy was working better (i.e. fairer taxation of property, public investments that create good jobs or reduce product prices or increase product quality, changing zoning restrictions to make affordable housing more feasible, more responsive democratic government, etc)

Sadly, because people tend to focus on only the exchange economy when talking about economic (and so ignore strengthening those other areas), we will likely see increasing theft as we go into a recession and as AI takes enough jobs to disrupt the exchange economy.

More ideas I've collected are here:
"Beyond a Jobless Recovery: A heterodox perspective on 21st century economics"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpdfernhout.net%2Fbeyond-...
        "This article explores the issue of a "Jobless Recovery" mainly from a heterodox economic perspective. It emphasizes the implications of ideas by Marshall Brain and others that improvements in robotics, automation, design, and voluntary social networks are fundamentally changing the structure of the economic landscape. It outlines towards the end four major alternatives to mainstream economic practice (a basic income, a gift economy, stronger local subsistence economies, and resource-based planning). These alternatives could be used in combination to address what, even as far back as 1964, has been described as a breaking "income-through-jobs link". This link between jobs and income is breaking because of the declining value of most paid human labor relative to capital investments in automation and better design. Or, as is now the case, the value of paid human labor like at some newspapers or universities is also declining relative to the output of voluntary social networks such as for digital content production (like represented by this document). It is suggested that we will need to fundamentally reevaluate our economic theories and practices to adjust to these new realities emerging from exponential trends in technology and society."

Comment Go a step further to better free&open standard (Score 1) 135

I know there is an XKCD about standards (and adding yet one more to create yet more confusion).
"Standards"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxkcd.com%2F927%2F

But that said, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript are all terrible standards in many ways because of their complexity (and major design flaws like JavaScript having vastly too many global variables). Asa an alternative, what if, say, we all just used something like Scheme (or Common Lisp) to encode web documents and web code as S-expressions in some semantically standardized formats? Scheme can be very compact in its implementation.

Or as the XKCD mentioned here says:
"Lessons learned from implementing minimal Scheme six times"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwolodzko.github.io%2Fpo...
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxkcd.com%2F297%2F
"Lisp cycles XKCD #297: âoeThose are your fatherâ(TM)s parentheses. Elegant weapons for a more⦠civilized age.â"

Now, it doesn't have to be Lisp-like.I get the paren hate:
"What makes Lisp difficult to read?"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Flisp%2F...

And there is a lot to be said for significant-indentation languages like Occam or Python. Smalltalk is another great language. Or even some variant of a safe C.

Even a Forth-derivative perhaps that could be literally less than ~2K in size at the core. Although I get that there is a fine line between flexible and flabby in readability in a language that can change its own fundamental syntax or that makes naming intermediate variables unlikely as a form of documentation. Same with any language that supports arbitrary macros like C or Scheme which can change the fundamental nature of the language. Although at least in, say, Racket Scheme you see the language level set at the start of some code to know what you are getting into.

The main point is just that yet another adhoc problematical language like JavaScript was not needed (even as TypeScript papers over the worst warts). And CSS conceptually is broken for big projects ("Atomic" CSS is one style to help with that). And adding end tags with names in HTML (like XML) is another broken concept as are other aspects of HTML. Yes, programmers can work around and manage the issue in these web fundamentals, but why should we have to?

While a simpler browser for HTML etc is a good thing if it really is well written, better standards for encoding and sharing information will ultimately get us further and be more energy efficient and be more reliable and be more programmer-friendly.

I've long been a fan of triples for doing some of that data encoding, but that is even further out.

Tangentially, here is a Libre Plane 2021 talk I put together on free standards for social media being more important than free implementations:
"Free/Libre Standards for Social Media and other Communications"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpdfernhout.net%2Flibrepl...

I know this all may sound pie in the sky (and it is, given current social dynamics), but consider if we used the usual buggy lot-of-library junky (and now AI slop) code only with an intent to translate web content encoded in problematical standards into content encoded in better simpler standards for other code to consume. Sort of like Amazon did at one point with a server-side engine to process HTML pages and transform them for low-end Kindle browsers -- but in this case converting HTML plus CSS plus JavaScript into something like, say, S-expressions for web content that was not yet written directly n the simpler standards. Maybe the junky translator code might not be perfect, but it might be good enough and runnable in distant containers so that the local code that processed the simpler standards could be more secure and reliable.

Also related: "Simple Made Easy"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infoq.com%2Fpresenta...
"Rich Hickey emphasizes simplicityâ(TM)s virtues over easinessâ(TM), showing that while many choose easiness they may end up with complexity, and the better way is to choose easiness along the simplicity path. ... We should aim for simplicity because simplicity is a prerequisite for reliability. Simple is often erroneously mistaken for easy. "Easy" means "to be at hand", "to be approachable". "Simple" is the opposite of "complex" which means "being intertwined", "being tied together". Simple != easy. ..."

Ideally a group like the US National Institute of Standards and Technology or the US Library of Congress should fund this sort of work. And a group like Archive.org should have a lot of input to those standards on how to make the content simply versionable and simply archivable.

Anyway, just something I have been musing on and off again for many years...

Comment AI never lies, it just has bad human data? (Score 3, Insightful) 286

On: "A Palantir spokesperson told Bloomberg the company "is not responsible for the underlying data nor identifying intelligence deficiencies" and that there is no evidence its software was at fault."

Is AI now an aspect of Mother Nature? Reminds me of:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2F2001.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FF...
  ""Let me put it this way, Mr. Amer. The [Palantir] 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake, or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the word, foolproof and incapable of error." -- [Palantir's] HAL 9000 to BBC reporter Martin Amer"

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhumanisticsystems.com%2F...
        "Dave: How would you account for this discrepancy between you and the twin [Palantir] 9000 [that did not kill lots of school girls]?
        HAL: Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
        Frank: Listen HAL. There has never been any instance at all of a computer error occurring in the [Palantir] 9000 series, has there?
        HAL: None whatsoever, Frank. The [Palantir] 9000 series has a perfect operational record.
        Frank: Well of course I know all the wonderful achievements of the [Palantir] 9000 series, but, uh, are you certain there has never been any case of even the most insignificant computer error?
        HAL: None whatsoever, Frank. Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that."

What do you call an AI (or human) that never asks questions, never seeks confirmatory evidence, never asks for clarification, never points out conflicting priorities, and/or never refuses illegal orders?

Onec again, the deeper issue is "the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity."
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpdfernhout.net%2Frecogni...
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Military robots like drones are ironic because they are created essentially to force humans to work like robots in an industrialized social order. Why not just create industrial robots to do the work instead?

Nuclear weapons are ironic because they are about using space age systems to fight over oil and land. Why not just use advanced materials as found in nuclear missiles to make renewable energy sources (like windmills or solar panels) to replace oil, or why not use rocketry to move into space by building space habitats for more land?

Biological weapons like genetically-engineered plagues are ironic because they are about using advanced life-altering biotechnology to fight over which old-fashioned humans get to occupy the planet. Why not just use advanced biotech to let people pick their skin color, or to create living arkologies and agricultural abundance for everyone everywhere?

These militaristic socio-economic ironies would be hilarious if they were not so deadly serious. ....

Likewise, even United States three-letter agencies like the NSA and the CIA, as well as their foreign counterparts, are becoming ironic institutions in many ways. Despite probably having more computing power per square foot than any other place in the world, they seem not to have thought much about the implications of all that computer power and organized information to transform the world into a place of abundance for all. Cheap computing makes possible just about cheap everything else, as does the ability to make better designs through shared computing. ....

There is a fundamental mismatch between 21st century reality and 20th century security thinking. Those "security" agencies are using those tools of abundance, cooperation, and sharing mainly from a mindset of scarcity, competition, and secrecy. Given the power of 21st century technology as an amplifier (including as weapons of mass destruction), a scarcity-based approach to using such technology ultimately is just making us all insecure. Such powerful technologies of abundance, designed, organized, and used from a mindset of scarcity could well ironically doom us all whether through military robots, nukes, plagues, propaganda, or whatever else... Or alternatively, as Bucky Fuller and others have suggested, we could use such technologies to build a world that is abundant and secure for all. ...

The big problem is that all these new war machines and the surrounding infrastructure are created with the tools of abundance [otherwise they would not be so powerful or capable of so much rapid destruction as well as rapid creation]. The irony is that these tools of abundance are being wielded by people still obsessed with fighting over scarcity. So, the scarcity-based political mindset driving the military uses the technologies of abundance to create artificial scarcity. That is a tremendously deep irony that remains so far unappreciated by the mainstream.

We the people need to redefine security in a sustainable and resilient way. Much current US military doctrine is based around unilateral security ("I'm safe because you are nervous") and extrinsic security ("I'm safe despite long supply lines because I have a bunch of soldiers to defend them"), which both lead to expensive arms races. We need as a society to move to other paradigms like Morton Deutsch's mutual security ("We're all looking out for each other's safety") and Amory Lovin's intrinsic security ("Our redundant decentralized local systems can take a lot of pounding whether from storm, earthquake, or bombs and would still would keep working"). ...
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Comment Problematical use of Slack by Automattic and Matt (Score 1) 38

Matt Mullenweg has done a lot for free and open source software as a communication platform, so it has been sad to see all this play out (crossing my fingers not as badly as with Ian Murdock of Debian though). Here are some health-related suggestions I've collected that may be useful for him or anyone else who can be hyper-focused and spend too much time indoors and on the computer and not emphasize good nutrition and exercise and face-to-face community so on:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fpdfernhout%2F...

That said, and with all due respect for Matt's past accomplishments in forging a community and a company to support it, I think Automattic (and so Matt) made a terrible choice around 2015 by deciding to use Slack for internal and even external communications instead of just using WordPress with the 02/Oxygen plugin previously used.

I wrote about that at length when I was applying for a job at Automattic circa 2015.The gist of that concern is on the main page of my website and says:
        "And here is a link to a no-doubt overly-long and overly-enthusiastic job application document as essentially a programming and FOSS autobiography intermixed with ideas about how what I had learned over the years could help Automattic (the main developers of WordPress) -- or, to some lesser extent, any other large FOSS effort, including Drupal/Acquia. After waiting a couple of months in the Automattic interview queue, that application fizzled over whether I was willing to use Slack for the job interview at Automattic. My reason for concern over Slack use at Automattic was that, as good as Slack is, the proprietary venture-funded Slack is disrupting the open-source communications ecosystem which WordPress is a big part of. I enjoyed writing that application document overall, and I still hope some of the ideas in it can still help Automattic grow even more in a FOSS direction (or other similar companies like Acquia with Drupal). That document is at least something for my kid to perhaps read someday many years from now. Of course, my kid may just read it and then say, not without significant justification, that I probably should have put the principle of family ahead of other principles in turning down any significant chance for a six-figure salary work-from-home job on FOSS. :-( We always have many principles to choose from, and it can indeed be hard sometimes to get the priorities right. As Scott Berkun (who left Automattic after a year to go back to writing full-time) wrote, even in a metrics-driver organization like Automattic, there is no metric for picking metrics or deciding how to weigh a variety of metrics (beyond perhaps survival itself).
        Here is a version of Twirlip I started as a proof-of-concept Thunderbird Server webapp to handle email, chat, and other real-time communications as another step towards a social semantic desktop. It is the beginning of the embodiment of the "ThunderbirdS Are Grow! Manifesto". But if you are looking for something good now that is FOSS, check out Mattermost, Matrix.org, Mailpile, Kolab, and similar things."

An archive page of that job application and Slack comments from back then is here, includign with the section on transcending polling in WordPress:
"Automattic JavaScript Engineer application by Paul D. Fernhout"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20...
      "But there is an alternative to trying to shoehorn WebSocket-related changes into the WordPress core PHP somehow. Such an update notification service to reduce polling could instead be hosted at WordPress.com in parallel to a WordPress server for a fee for those who don't want to run Node.js (or whatever) locally to supply that service. ... Such a WordPress feature to reduce polling needs might then be used to add near-real-time chat to WordPress. This might reduce the otherwise increasing desire for Automatticians to use Slack to communicate with each other about WordPress. That is a movement that seems problematical to me concerning WordPress's future. It would also be like Automattic moving to Pusher instead of improving WordPress to be low-latency and near-real-time. Even if Slack (by all reports) is a great product (as proprietary products go) that can monitor and log and search all of your communications stored on their servers, in theory using Slack widely within Automattic makes Automattic's internal communications available to the same proprietary competitor (if even just rogue employees) for business intelligence purposes. It also seems strange to me for Automattic to cede the area of near-real-time communications to a proprietary company without at least trying (really hard) to come up with an alternative built into WordPress, especially because such things have already been shown to be workable. I feel Automattic could (and should) be innovating in this area to help the WordPress community move in new directions. ..."

A fundamental issue is that people at Automattic at the time saw WordPress' competitors as things like Wix, not things like Slack. I was reminded of when in the 1990s ParcPlace (a Smalltallk vendor) thought Digittalk (another Smalltalk vendor) was their main competitor and disastrously bought them while ignoring that Visual Basic and Delphi and similar products were really their big competitors (which I had warned someone in sales there about about). WordPress could have become the premier chat platform for companies (including using ideas for a near-real-time message updates relay server leveraging technology someone at Automattic has written). But instead Automattic and the WordPress community it shepherds moved to Slack. Just a very sad way to see a great FOSS community focused on communications destroy itself by embracing proprietary software. And it seems like Matt played a big part in that short-sighted decision somehow (maybe having friends who worked at and.or funded Slack judging from some of his bloig posts long ago)?

Here is a more general essay I wrote in 2016 on why not to use Slack for free software development (in part trying to explain to Richard Stallman of the FSF why Slack was such a threat to the free software movement):
"Reasons Not to Use Slack for Free Software Development"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpdfernhout.net%2Freasons...
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Contents
* Introduction and summary
* What is Slack? (A proprietary centralized communications hub web service )
* Free alternatives exist to the proprietary Slack
* Automattic/WordPress is sending the wrong message about free communications software
* Slack can change its TOS at any time
* Slack can cut you or your community off at any time
* You need to be online to use Slack
* Slack copies the contents of secret URLs
* Slack makes government surveillance easier
* Slack is a single point of failure for your community
* Slack's privacy policy guarantees very little
* A democratic government is a special case of a free and open source community
* Slack is focused on teams, not communities
* Slack limits are not advertised (like 5000 users maximum per "team")
* It costs a lot to search or delete older messages
* Your Slack discussions for free software projects are not public or findable
* Slack private messages may not be very private
* Slack may change ownership at any time
* What if Slack went free/libre and open source?
* Standards unify; incompatible services fragment
* The cost of changing later can be high
* Matrix.org is a better way forward
* Would I ever use Slack? Sadly, yes. :-(
====

Tangentially, I also tried to get Automattic/WordPress to use Mithril instead of React back when React has problematical licensing relating to patents... In the end though Automattic and Matt had enough clout to get Facebook to change the React licensing terms (even though I still feel Mithril has a better conceptual design with better developer ergonomics than React).
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FAutomattic%2F...

Anyway, I'll never know if WordPress and Automattic might have gone in very different directions if I had gone to work there -- or if I just would have become frustrated and bitter from still seeing it all play out the way it did despite my best efforts there (given social momentum and power structures)?

For example, it took five years to get this memory exhaustion and crashing bug I reported in WordPress fixed for when you edit a long page too many times (which I discovered while writing that job application). That is a bug which may have cost the entire WordPress community many millions of dollars a year paying for bigger servers with more memory than they really needed to avoid the problem, compared to if the bug had been fixed sooner:
"High memory usage ( and possible server error) editing post with many/large revisions"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcore.trac.wordpress.or...

P.S. Sad anniversary of September 11 today and the destruction of technology used for social advancement in Chili in 1973 (as another example of politics and personality disrupting humane tech progress as with WordPress):
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F...
        "Project Cybersyn was a Chilean economic project developed from 1971 to 1973 during the presidency of Salvador Allende (1970-1973), with the purpose of constructing a distributed decision-support system to aid in the management of the national economy. The project consisted of four modules: an economic simulator, custom software to check factory performance, an operations room, and a national network of telex machines that linked to a single mainframe computer. ... The principal architect of the system was British operations research scientist Stafford Beer (1926-2002), and the system embodied his notions of management cybernetics in industrial management. One of its main objectives was to devolve decision-making power within industrial enterprises to their workforce to develop self-regulation of factories. ... Project Cybersyn ended following Allende's removal and death during the coup detat of 11 September 1973. After the coup, the Chilean military abandoned Cybersyn and destroyed the operations room.

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F...
        "According to historian Sebastian Hurtado Torres, there is no documentary evidence to support that the United States government acted actively in the coordination and execution of the coup actions by the Chilean Armed Forces from September 11, 1973 itself. However, Richard Nixon's interest from the beginning was that the Allende government would not be consolidated and intervened in the conditions prior to the Chilean coup of 1973. Historian Peter Winn found "extensive evidence" of United States complicity in events that helped in part to create the conditions that led to the coup. However, given the local political polarization and the performance of the Popular Unity government, there is no academic consensus on whether this intervention--which primarily took the form of financial support for the media, political parties, and opposition organizations--played a decisive role in the events of September 11, 1973."

Comment Spoiler: THX 1138 prescient on token budget (1971) (Score 2) 125

https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F... "The android officers are ordered by Central Command to cease pursuit, on the grounds that the expense of his capture exceeds their allocated budget for THX."

So maybe there is hope for humanity after all in token budget limits? :-)

Another source of hope is humans and Ais learning to laugh at the irony in my sig: "The biggest challenge of the 21st century is the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity."

Comment Re:So Google paid a fraction of the cost (Score 0) 97

Better to be subsiding nuclear (and batteries for solar) than coal and gas, I suppose.

Grid scale batteries can do more than deal with the intermittency of solar power.

I recall news about the Tesla Megapack in Australia keeping the electric grid stable after a gigawatt scale coal power plant was somehow suddenly taken off the grid. So, consider how batteries could help in keeping electricity flowing should a gigawatt scale nuclear power plant have an unplanned shutdown, it's not like the electrons behave any different if they come from a nuclear power plant than a coal power plant.

If there's a need for grid scale electric storage then nuclear fission allows for energy storage at lower cost than batteries, and possibly lower cost than pumped hydro storage. Nuclear fission is uniquely suited for thermal energy storage since they can produce temperatures higher than concentrated solar thermal, thermodynamics tell us the higher the temperature in the "thermal battery" the better.

A nuclear power plant with thermal energy storage allows for ramping down power and diverting that heat into storage for using when solar power fades with clouds and nightfall. Thermal energy storage could be little more than a tank on a molten salt coolant loop. Because thermal energy storage is so simple the cost of construction and operation could be the cheapest option for grid scale storage. If batteries prove to be lower cost than thermal energy storage then a nuclear power plant can use batteries instead.

If we are going to be truthful with ourselves about the cost of energy then we should not ignore how batteries could be paired up with more than just solar.

Comment Re:What could possibly go right? (Score 0, Troll) 97

America literally has no steel plants large enough to create a nuclear pressure vessel.

Canada figured out how to build gigawatt scale CANDU nuclear reactors without large steel castings. If getting large steel cast parts is an issue for Americans then Americans could work out a deal with Canada, or develop similar reactors independently. That's assuming we'd want to continue building gigawatt scale reactors. Right now there's a Department of Energy contest of sorts to see who has the best small modular reactors. The winners of this competition would likely need a few years yet to get from these first-of-a-kind demonstration reactors to mass production, which means they can avoid any issues over sourcing large steel castings.

There's more to cost reduction with scale than keep building gigawatt scale reactors. SMRs can be designed to scale with quantity, and that's the sales pitch being used to find utilities willing to fund nuclear power plants.

I am continually baffled on how those opposed to nuclear power keep bringing up problems that have been solved decades ago.

A loan like this could draw out people from other plants for that big payout. But in reality, unless they plant to build new plants and use this to train up new nuclear workers, they're just going to hurt the existing energy industry.

That might be a problem right now but certainly solvable in something like five years. When I was attending university for an electrical engineering degree and planning out which courses to take for the next semester I discovered that the professor for one of the fluid dynamic classes had a degree in nuclear engineering. That made me wonder how many other professors teaching at American universities were nuclear engineers. There's few universities in the USA offering degrees in nuclear engineering, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a shortage of professors willing and able to teach nuclear engineering courses.

If universities see demand for nuclear engineers from both students and the energy industry then they can develop a nuclear engineering program. A nuclear power plant will need people trained in nuclear engineering but only a handful of them as there's plenty going on at nuclear power plants that will not require knowing anything related to nuclear fission. There's clearly enough nuclear engineers for the current demand, because if there were not then I would not see any university with professors trained in nuclear engineering teaching courses ion how to build windmills, they would instead be teaching at a university with a nuclear engineering program, or they'd be applying their expertise designing or operating nuclear power plants.

As it is now it takes about eight years to build a nuclear power plant from breaking ground to producing electricity. This gives the nuclear power industry time to avoid a future shortage of nuclear engineers. The nuclear power industry can, and almost certainly will, do what they can to speed the process along. While attending university I learned of scholarships from John Deere to get more agricultural engineers. If I had learned of this scholarship earlier then I would have switched to agricultural engineering to see my costs to attend university lowered. Much like that nuclear engineer teaching students how to build windmills the degree doesn't lock people into a narrow field of employment options. If I studied agricultural engineering at university I could find work programming binary load lifters by applying what I learned at university about moisture vaporators. The companies building nuclear power plants today can offer scholarships in nuclear engineering just like how John Deere offered scholarships for agricultural engineers.

Comment Re:The Story Doesn't Say (Score -1) 97

The story doesn't say how old this reactor is

I'd guess the authors of the fine article believed that the age of the power plant wasn't important enough to include. There are plenty of details not in the article since the authors of the article will have a maximum word count from their editors, this is so the readers are not given trivial details that would bore and/or confuse the reader. The editors and reporters will have a point they want to get across, the point I got from the article is that there's a growing demand for electricity which has forced people to reconsider the viability of nuclear fission as a source of electricity. If the reader wishes to learn that detail they can easily find that with a web search using the same computer used to read the article.

I'll save you from the trouble of searching this yourself, construction started in 1970 and the reactor commissioned in 1975 which would make this reactor about 50 years old.

why it was decommissioned

That was in the article. The plant had been damaged by a powerful wind storm, as seen only in a once in a lifetime level of power. The reactor didn't see any damage, the damage was to property around the reactor that turns the reactor heat into electricity and sends that electricity to the local rural electric cooperative. At the time immediately after the storm the plant could not raise the money needed to repair it, while also paying for the refueling and maintenance that was in progress then. Minds were changed on restarting the reactor because of rising natural gas costs.

how much the government or consumers paid for the stupidly expensive shutdown process and likely ongoing maintenance

Just like I commented above there's only so much detail that can be put in a news article while also keeping the word count to something that can be easily processed by the intended audience.

how much it will cost the government or consumers to shut it down again in the not too distant future

Every nuclear power plant is required to show the NRC they have funds set aside for decommissioning before a license to operate is granted. In the end all Americans are contributing to this fund by electricity fees, taxes, and likely more. It appears you believe that there's better options than nuclear fission for producing electricity. I expect that the people working on restarting DAEC did the math on costs versus benefits and found restarting DAEC was their best option. I'm quite certain that these people know more about the costs and income than you do.

Decommissioning takes 10 - 15 years.

Why should anyone be all that concerned about how long the decommissioning will take? There's all kinds of infrastructure projects that take a similarly long time to complete, why should I think any different about a nuclear power plant?

I'm all in favor of nuclear power. But there is a considerable cost at the end of the line that always seems to get forgotten about until suddenly the utility needs $2billion from subscribers to clean and secure it for eternity. The entire lifecycle needs to be accounted for in advance.

What you've written doesn't mesh with nuclear power. It appears to me that you are simply ignorant about nuclear power and can't be bothered to do the slightest to educate your self. You clearly have a computer and internet, if you didn't then you'd not be posting comments to Slashdot, which allows you to find answers to your questions in only a few minutes. I'm reminded of a comment that's been attributed to Mark Twain, those who don't read will remain as ignorant as those that can't read.

There's two events that stick out in my mind that demonstrate to me how opinions are changing on nuclear fission for energy. The first event was seeing Andrew Yang advocated for nuclear power in his campaign for POTUS. If Yang believed Democrats would not support nuclear power then he'd not likely run as a Democrat. The national Democrat party platform included support for nuclear power shortly after Yang dropped out of the race for the White House, and I'm of the belief that leaders in the party made this shift because Yang was getting popular as a candidate. Yang speaking in favor of nuclear power, and getting plenty of votes in primary elections, likely got Democrat leaders nervous on their chances to win in that race. Yang forced other Democrats to comment on nuclear power, and those that spoke out against it were losing votes to Yang or Republicans.

The second event that tells me public opinions on nuclear power are changing happened in the last week or so, I'm seeing adverts in favor of nuclear power on YouTube. For something like 50 years Democrats were either openly opposed to nuclear power or were trying to pretend that nuclear power doesn't exist. If there's enough money to produce and distribute these adverts then there must be plenty of people willing to fund these adverts.

Comment Re:News Flash (Score -1) 168

It's ordinance, not ordnance!
Ordinance = local laws
Ordnance = munitions.

I'm aware of the distinction between the two words, I was trying to be funny. I set up the joke but then failed in delivering the punch line. I was referencing the "four boxes of liberty", with those boxes being soap, ballot, jury, and ammunition/cartridge/ordnance/whatever. If the local government fails to enact/pass legislation to change behavior, and/or fails in changing behavior by nonviolent means, then this could lead to violent enforcement, where violent enforcement includes handing out ammunition.

Comment Re:News Flash (Score 0) 168

There are so many caveats to that idea:

Sure, rarely in life is anything absolute.

1. Most campground owners don't want you drawing 32A for hours. Their wiring infrastructure was designed with assumption it would only see the intermittent spikes in usage typical of an RV.

Define "typical of an RV" for the class. I know people with an RV, and I've done a bit of looking on what an RV takes for power more generally, so I believe I have some idea on what an RV might take for power. If we are to take my brother's RV as something approaching "typical" then we will see two AC units for cooling. This allows for running a single AC unit if there is only a "travel trailer" outlet for power, which provides 120VAC @ 30A, or running both units if there is a 240VAC @ 40A outlet as found at more "up to date" campsites suited for larger camper trailers and RVs. On a warm Midwest summer day like today there could be a near constant running of the AC unit(s) from early afternoon until about midnight when the outdoor temperature gets below 70F. If we assume a cool fall or spring day for camping then there could be electric resistance heaters running constantly through the night and into the mid-morning when the sun starts to warm everything up.

I can understand that during much of the camping season the high power loads will be largely intermittent, such as microwave ovens as well as more intermittent use of heating and cooling, but that is not guaranteed. I don't know how an RV park would calculate loads to determine main service size but this still means that a BEV with a portable L2 charge cable is no worse than an RV during cool or warm weather.

2. An EVSE plugged into a NEMA 14-50 outlet maxes out at 32A. Even with a car with a smaller battery pack (such as the Chevy Bolt in TFS) is going to be charging for hours depending on how much juice you're trying to add. You may very well end up spending the night sleeping in the car.

If the choice is to spend $500 (the highway robbery DCFC fees such as in TFA plus fees for a motel room for the night) or to sleep in the car for the night during mild weather at a campsite for $25 then I'll choose sleeping in my car. If there is severe weather to the point sleeping in my car would not be safe, some hurry to get where I'm going, or some other unusual need, then I'll eat the $500. I won't like paying out $500, would likely dispute the fees as soon as possible as shown in TFA, but if I had to eat that then I'd consider it a once in a lifetime case of bad luck as well as a learning experience to better plan my travels in the future.

3. Public L2 chargers are a thing (usually found at hotels, shopping centers, and parking garages) if you really don't mind the slow charging speeds. A lot of them are cheap or sometimes even free.

That's great but TFA is about a gentleman traveling through the Midwest USA, on what I assume to be a summer vacation, being left with what appeared to be limited options for recharging the BEV he rented. There's a lot of missing details on the situation so we'll have to speculate. If a motel with free EV charging was within the range left on the battery was available then I would expect the driver to take that option than gamble on the fees from an unfamiliar charger. Then consider the point I made above, there may have been more going on which dictated using the DCFC regardless of the fees than spend the night at a campsite in rural Michigan.

4. DCFC is expensive, but generally still not as expensive as paying a campground fee. Just get an adapter if your car doesn't already support NACS, and go to the nearest Tesla Supercharger that is open to non-Tesla EVs (most of them are at this point). You won't have to worry about sketchy dealerships and their price gouging chargers.

A quick look at DCFC fees tells me that $0.40/kWh is about as low as anyone can find in the USA. For a 65 kWh battery like in the Chevy Bolt that comes to about $25 for a full charge. Consider DCFC fees that would be from average to high and it might be double that, perhaps even triple or quadruple. A quick look at some local campsites and I see overnight fees for a spot with electricity being between $25 and $50. Maybe campsites cost more where you are but I'd expect most Midwest campsite fees would be in that $25 to $50 range. It's been a while since I rented a campsite but I doubt there's much difference in the fees over that time and over the general Midwest area, feel free to prove me wrong. Remember that we are talking about people traveling through rural USA, there may not be a Tesla Supercharger on the path from A to B.

I agree that Tesla appears to offer the best option for EV charging, regardless of which make of BEV being discussed, but Tesla chargers aren't always an option. I point to campsites as an option to recharge as (at least in my experience) fees are posted clearly, they will offer a safe place to rest for a few hours to overnight if necessary, will have toilets (though perhaps not the most modern and clean), and likely other amenities to make the stop at least relatively comfortable and likely more comfortable than the typical charging station which offers little more than a slab of asphalt baking in the summer sun. Assuming the BEV driver is not in a hurry, or lacking better options, then $50 for a few hours at a campsite to recharge (literally and figuratively) isn't that bad of an option. What's the better option here? A $200 tow to the next town with a Tesla Supercharger? Or a motel with free overnight EV charging?

The larger point is to keep an open mind on EV charge options when traveling through unfamiliar territory and/or sparsely populated areas like the Midwest USA. Instead of only looking for DCFC on an app consider also campsites, motels that have L2 chargers, truck stops that might not be listed on most EV charging networks, and so on. I've seen comments on Slashdot on how some hospitals and churches have EV chargers that are either free or low cost, they may not be DCFC but expect to at least have a safe place to rest while waiting to charge.

Comment Re:News Flash (Score 1) 168

Car dealership ran by piece of shit.

Like most local shops that treat their patrons like shit they made the local news for their actions. This often leads to corrections to this behavior in short order. The shop can change their behavior in response to locals being less likely to visit their shops (and therefore impact income) or the local government will pass some ordnance (or is it "ordinance"?) to more forcefully adjust their behavior.

EVs are still a new enough phenomenon that NACS as a standard charging port is only two years old (or something, it's close enough), so new that we might still be seeing CCS or whatever on new EVs for another two years. The "piece of shit" dealers with sky high fees on charging aren't likely to get away with this highway robbery for much longer. People will learn which dealers are pieces of shit, EV charger apps will learn to post fees as well as potentially just refuse to list charging sites that rob EV drivers, and laws will be passed to force fees charged to be posted prominently like we see now with filling stations.

I'm disappointed that anyone believes they can get away with this kind of robbery, but I'm also encouraged that this is making the news which will discourage this robbery in the future.

I've had generally pleasant experiences with local auto dealers so I've not been trained to believe that dealerships rip people off like I'll hear others express such happening to them. Again, I expect this to be self correcting, especially now that so many drivers will have a smartphone that can give rapidly updated information on anyone that could try to rob them with shady business tactics.

Oh, and a note to those looking to avoid high EV charging fees:
A tip I picked up is that it's cheap to charge up an EV at campsites for those thinking ahead to pack a portable charge cable, a cable that can be had for something like $100 from all kinds of shops be they online or brick and mortar. From experience a campsite will offer as much as a 240 VAC @ 40A outlet for "shore power", or at least some kind of electrical outlet, and charge something like $25 for the night regardless of how much electricity is consumed. You don't have to stay the night, presumably sleeping in your car, but you can if that means charging up cheap while spending the night in a safe place to sleep. Nearly every campsite will have toilets, showers, and WiFi for campers to use. The nicer campsites could also have a swimming pool, laundromat, perhaps a little convenience shop to pick up basic food items and/or toiletries, maybe a playground or hiking trails to get some exercise and/or distract any children traveling with you for a bit. My point is that by thinking outside the box on places to charge there are options to save money on EV charging, or at least having a more pleasant stop than the typical roadside charging spot that is lacking the most basic of comforts for the stop.

Comment Why post the charger as publicly available? (Score 0, Interesting) 168

The question was asked in the fine article of why post the charger as available to the general public if the owners were doing everything possible to discourage the public from using it. I can make a couple guesses, including the guess in the fine article that the owners thought they might be able to get away with the high fees if anyone was desperate enough to actually use the charger they installed for the purpose of charging the EVs they were offering for sale.

Another reason I can speculate could be incentivizing this behavior is that there is (or was at the time of installation) some kind of government incentive for posting the charger as publicly available, such as some provision in the Inflation Reduction Act that had considerable incentives for promoting more EV sales. Regardless of the cause I expect this to be a self correcting issue. If this isn't fixed with legislation, such as marking the fees in ways clearly visible like current rules on refilling stations, then it will be fixed with competition on lower fess and with charger locator apps indicating what fees to expect at each location.

Even though I live in the relatively sparsely populated Midwest USA I'd feel confident I could get to where I need to go while also avoiding exorbitant fees on public chargers. When growing up on the family dairy farm we were about 15 miles from two small towns that offered most every service we'd need, such as dentists, optometrist, hospitals and clinics offering every basic medical service, schools, libraries, groceries, clothing, auto dealerships, restaurants, and more. Airports, "bigger" hospitals, the more niche shopping, etc. would be more like 50 to 100 miles away, something easily done on a single charge with most BEVs available in the last decade or so. To get to a major metro, such as Chicago or the Twin Cities, could be as much as 300 miles for a Midwesterner by my estimations. Such a large city will have many options for public chargers, making exorbitant fees on an EV charger unlikely to stand for long.

I guess where I'm going with this is that I'm as confused as anyone on how EV charging fees like this could exist in 2026. I don't have an EV currently but I'm thinking that my next vehicle will be a PHEV. Articles like this make me nervous to jump into EVs with both feet and look for a BEV. What also makes me nervous about a BEV is the "range anxiety" that comes from even the EV advocates when news like this is brought up. If BEV owners are so anxious about range that they are insistent that every restaurant, movie theater, parking ramp, and even their own workplace, have a place to plug in for charging, then why would I want a BEV? This leads me to believe that I could be left calling for a tow, or left paying sky high fees at a public EV charger, because my BEV lacks the single charge range to get me to work, shopping, religious services, places of education, or whatever.

If EV advocates want to see more people buy or rent BEVs then I suggest doing two things. First is to quit with the insistence that EV chargers be available at every parking spot, that only feeds the "range anxiety" that should have been left to history by now. Point out how most daily driving is within 100 miles of where people call home, and even an abused cheap used BEV will make up for those miles on a single overnight charge from a common 120 VAC outlet. Second, do some common sense advocacy with those providing the charging and other services, or act on this yourself by putting your own money into getting chargers installed. I believe that advocating for more legislation, such as tax incentives and subsidies, are often counterproductive. If you are calling for more laws on incentivizing BEV sales then that it likely to feed into public resistance as it justifies their unfounded "range anxiety", feeds into fears of government overreach, and more that will only get people to dig in their heels and hold tight to their dinosaur burners.

I'm wondering if EV advocates have become their own worst enemy.

Comment 25% of U.S. workers are "functionally unemployed"? (Score 4, Interesting) 63

Hows this for more serious job market stats?
"Nearly 25% of U.S. workers are "functionally unemployed," economic analysis finds"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ff...
        "The U.S. job market is less robust than it looks, according to a new analysis.
        The nation's unemployment rate fell to 4.1% in July, well within the range economists consider healthy. Yet that measure, which reflects the percentage of people 16 and older who don't have a job and who are looking for work, is an imprecise metric that fails to offer a full picture of the health of the job sector, according to Gene Ludwig, chairman of the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity (LISEP).
        The economic research firm's "True Rate of Unemployment" (TRU) seeks to capture the share of workers that the group defines as "functionally unemployed." This includes not only people who are unemployed and looking for a job, but also those who are involuntarily working part-time and who are earning poverty-level wages, or less than $26,000 annually before taxes.
        Functional unemployment across the U.S. has climbed four straight months and stood at 24.9% as of July, although that's down from 25.2% in December, according to the Ludwig Institute. ..."

Shadowstats has some similar unemployment numbers:
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.shadowstats.com%2Fal...

To me, these sorts of huge (but often ignored) unemployment numbers reflect the continued playing out of larger trends like I outlined in 2010:
"Beyond a Jobless Recovery: A heterodox perspective on 21st century economics"
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpdfernhout.net%2Fbeyond-...
        "This article explores the issue of a "Jobless Recovery" mainly from a heterodox economic perspective. It emphasizes the implications of ideas by Marshall Brain and others that improvements in robotics, automation, design, and voluntary social networks are fundamentally changing the structure of the economic landscape. It outlines towards the end four major alternatives to mainstream economic practice (a basic income, a gift economy, stronger local subsistence economies, and resource-based planning). These alternatives could be used in combination to address what, even as far back as 1964, has been described as a breaking "income-through-jobs link". This link between jobs and income is breaking because of the declining value of most paid human labor relative to capital investments in automation and better design. Or, as is now the case, the value of paid human labor like at some newspapers or universities is also declining relative to the output of voluntary social networks such as for digital content production (like represented by this document). It is suggested that we will need to fundamentally reevaluate our economic theories and practices to adjust to these new realities emerging from exponential trends in technology and society. ..."

Comment Need higher quality code not more tech debt (Score 2) 142

Like for example Bill Atkinson's famous productive -2000 lines: https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.folklore.org%2FNegat...

For decades I've been suggesting on-and-off that a big problem is too many commercial programmers writing too much code and making too much work for each other with an endless proliferation adhoc interfaces, each a new "standard".

As an egregious example, years ago I read somewhere that Microsoft Office embeds like six entirely different virtual machines. Maybe it has improved since with the CLR?

Except for proprietary competitive forces, how many spreadsheets, compilers, VMs, email clients, word processors, and databases do we really need? Even in the realm of games, how many game engines do we need? Granted, game content may be a different story, but even there how many low-to-medium-quality games do we need?

The same is true to an extent with the entire internet. How many low-to-medium-quality comments do we need to wade through on various topics?

Imagine if everyone was using, say, (optionally-typed) Scheme with a great set of libraries to write everything (including with "org mode" in a Scheme-powered emacs-like multi-tool with a calendar etc), and there was just no "JSON" or "JavaScript" or "XML" or "Office-compatible adhoc file formats" or even "C" or "Rust". Not saying that an optionally-typed Scheme is the best choice, but what a different computing world to imagine. Guess my Symbolics 3600 Lisp machine experience in the 1980s spoiled me. :-) And I have to admit that TypeScript on widespread Scheme-inspired JavaScript VMs with WebAssembly has moved the computing world a lot in that direction with pros and cons.

I know an obvious objection (as with Linux's endless front-end and distributions) is about choice, but at some point there is a tyranny of excessive choice, like "twisty little passage ways all alike".
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F...
        "The Paradox of Choice - Why More Is Less is a book about overchoice written by American psychologist Barry Schwartz and first published in 2004 by Harper Perennial. In the book, Schwartz argues that eliminating consumer choices can greatly reduce anxiety for shoppers. The book analyzes the behavior of different types of people (in particular, maximizers and satisficers). This book argues that the dramatic explosion in choice--from the mundane to the profound challenges of balancing career, family, and individual needs--has paradoxically become a problem instead of a solution and how our obsession with choice encourages us to seek that which makes us feel worse."

I have no problem with people writing personal code for fun or learning or personal growth (which I highly recommend) -- the same way a person may play the piano as a hobby without expecting every time they play a tune the result needs to become a packaged commercial musical product.

The main thing I think about these days is how to have a much simpler tech ecosystem. Including for this reason outlined by Rich Hickey (author of Clojure) in "Simple Made Easy":
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infoq.com%2Fpresenta...
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Rich Hickey emphasizes simplicity's virtues over easiness', showing that while many choose easiness they may end up with complexity, and the better way is to choose easiness along the simplicity path.

We should aim for simplicity because simplicity is a prerequisite for reliability.

Simple is often erroneously mistaken for easy. "Easy" means "to be at hand", "to be approachable".

"Simple" is the opposite of "complex" which means "being intertwined", "being tied together". Simple != easy.

What matters in software is: does the software do what is supposed to do? Is it of high quality? Can we rely on it? Can problems be fixed along the way? Can requirements change over time? The answers to these questions is what matters in writing software not the look and feel of the experience writing the code or the cultural implications of it.

The benefits of simplicity are: ease of understanding, ease of change, ease of debugging, flexibility.

Complex constructs: State, Object, Methods, Syntax, Inheritance, Switch/matching, Vars, Imperative loops, Actors, ORM, Conditionals.

Simple constructs: Values, Functions, Namespaces, Data, Polymorphism, Managed refs, Set functions, Queues, Declarative data manipulation, Rules, Consistency.

Build simple systems by:
* Abstracting - design by answering questions related to what, who, when, where, why, and how.
* Choosing constructs that generate simple artifacts.
* Simplify by encapsulation.
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Or, as a joke:
"Weinberg's Law: If builders built buildings the way (current-AI-enhanced-HR-staffer) programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization."
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquoteinvestigator.com%2F...

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