
Journal BarbaraHudson's Journal: F*ck the toxic LGBT community 177
Political correctness has gotten to the point where anyone is transgender, even if it's only a guy saying "I prefer cats - that's my feminine side" or a gal saying "I love my shotgun - that's my masculine side," they too can claim the label. Meanings have become so blurred that it's considered bad manners to call bullshit because you might offend that one poster who claimed his girlfriend has a penis and she enjoys it. That's not a transsexual - that's a gay transvestite transgenderist and you're also gay - just admit it already.
The stupidity from the entire LGBT community, as expressed on Facebook over the last year, made me re-examine previous assumptions. Some examples:
What was wrong with civil unions?
I was in favor of same-sex marriage long before it became popular. I was saying "Why deprive gays of the joys of divorce?"
But upon re-examination, marriage is a civil union. Nothing more, nothing less. The state regulates it under state laws, not any other organization. The state licenses it, and the state approves individual licenses and regulates the dissolution of marriages. Not a church or other group.
So what is the difference between marriage and any other civil union? Just like civil unions, marriages preserve many individual rights while granting others and imposing some obligations and restrictions. Marriage and civil unions allow the other partner to make decisions in medical care, jointly adopt, and pool assets. The only difference is that civil unions can set additional conditions that marriage cannot, and civil unions also envisage relationships that have nothing to do with marriage.
I think it would have been better to just pass a declaration that recognizes that all marriages are civil unions, and to be known henceforth as such. End all the mysticism surrounding the term marriage by deprecating it.
Would I undo same-sex marriage laws? Of course not - but in retrospect, the whole mess could have been handled much better by sticking to the facts - that marriage is a civil union.
The meaninglessness of the word "transgender"
Historically, this whole mess can be laid at the foot of the cross-dressing community, starting with Virginia Prince (Arnold Lowman). Prince mis-appropriated the term transgender thus:
In other works, Prince also helped popularize the term 'transgender', and erroneously asserted that she coined transgenderist and transgenderism, words which she meant to be understood as describing people who live as full-time women, but have no intention of having genital surgery. Prince also consistently argued that transvestism is very firmly related to gender, as opposed to sex or sexuality.[8] Her use of the term "femmiphile" related to the belief that the term "transvestite" had been corrupted, intending to underline the distinction between heterosexual crossdressers, who act because of their love of the feminine, and the homosexuals or transsexuals who may cross-dress.[1][10][11] Princeâ(TM)s idea of a "true transvestite" was clearly distinguished from both the homosexual and the transsexual, claiming that true transvestites are "exclusively heterosexual... The transvestite values his male organs, enjoys using them and does not desire them removed."
That is a far cry from transsexuals, and the continued attempts by the LGBT community to blur the distinction so as to legitimize cross-dressing and other behaviours is both dishonest and seriously misguided, because now in the public mind transgender can mean anything, including transsexual.
It's gotten to the point that transgenderists insist that making the distinction between full-time cross-dressers and transsexuals is both wrong and "harmful to the community." Oddly enough, it's gay men, some of whom are cross-dressers, that are the most vocal in their attacks, which are only directed at male-to-female transsexuals. An example was a recent attack by a gay female-to-male transsexual saying that male-to-female transsexuals are cross-dressers, mimicking perfectly the accusations of transvestites. WTF? Another was by a gay cross-dresser who, after being invited to a discussion after misrepresenting himself as a male-to-female transsexual, started the whole "you're really just men in dresses" thing.
In the end, transgender means everything and nothing - it's a label that's as solid as Jello, and like Jello, impossible to nail down.
Organized LGBT discrimination against transsexuals
Why would LGBT groups and individuals want to beat up on transsexuals? One thing that becomes obvious over time is that they resent the fact that transsexualism by it's very nature tends to confirm the traditional heteronormative gender binary - especially male-to-female transsexuals. Female-to-male transsexuals get a pass on this accusation, same as they aren't accused of being cross-dressers by many in the LGBT community, not even by cross-dressers.
The Human Rights Coalition is a good example of the systemic nature of their toxic view of male-to-female transsexuals among their own workers.
"Leadership culture is experienced as homogenous â" gay, white, male"
One of the most frequent concerns that rose was the sense of an organizational culture rooted in a white, masculine orientation which is judgemental of all those who donâ(TM)t fit that mold,â the report states in summarizing its survey findings. âoeDisparate treatment toward women and those with 'soft skills' was frequently cited by staff â" both men and women â" and there is a sense that if you operate outside of that orientation, you will not be successful at HRC."
"Younger staff in particular are exploited and not rewarded financially." Another said, "Straight women and lesbians get sexist treatment from gay men at HRC."
No wonder people there wait years to transition publicly. With friends like these, I'd rather be dealing with fundamentalist Christians. Many of them change their attitudes once they get to know us personally.
People in "the community" say I should stop criticizing because it will hurt the community. My response nowadays is "Big f*cking deal. My community is family, friends, and neighbours. I am not part of your community, never have been, and never will be. There were no 'bathroom bills' until you guys got involved. People didn't make a habit of mis-identifying us as 'perverted cross-dressers'."
The "LGBT Community"
As I pointed out above, I don't buy into the whole concept, and from the responses I've seen I'm not the only one. People get beaten up in the local gay ghetto, but are afraid to leave it because they've bought into the lie that the rest of the world is even more hostile. This is not a supportive community - it's toxic as all hell. I don't know where the gay village is, but I do know I don't want to go there.
Transsexuals already had the backing of the medical community before the modern gay rights movement. Unlike the LGBTs, we didn't resort to violent public protests - we didn't need to. Nevertheless, the community continues to spread disinformation linking us to them, saying such things as "it was a transsexual who threw the first rock at Stonewall," when it was actually a transvestite.
It's so bad that if you're a transsexual, people automatically assume you're gay. While numbers vary depending on who you believe, about 30%-50% of heterosexual male-to-female transsexuals change their sexual orientation post-transition. Another large chunk are bi; only a minority are lesbians. Whodathunkit? And those who do switch are the gay community's worst fear - demonstrating that many transsexuals affirn the conventional heteronormative gender binary that they see as the oppressor.
The whole mental illness thing
This is a complicated question, and one that, on closer examination, I have to give a qualified "yes" to the mental illness argument. I know, what a shocker! The current argument, which I agree with, is that transsexuality itself is a physical condition, not a mental disorder, and that it's the mind (assuming male-to-female transsexuals) that is not completely masculinized before birth, giving rise to the condition.
So far, so good. The problem is, we have no studies of how many people who also had brains that did not completely masculinize do not suffer from gender dysphoria (the resultant distress of the brain saying "these are the wrong parts").
We know that schizophrenia is a mental illness with its' roots in the physical brain, but we don't hesitate to call the disease itself a mental disease. We don't hesitate to call PTSD a mental disorder, even though its' cause is experiencing an external physical event that is so horrific that it has a severe impact on the person. Ditto for major depressive disorder.
So why the change from Gender Identity Disorder to Gender Dysphoria? In practical terms of treating it, there is no difference for transsexuals. However, the looser criteria have allowed non-transsexual transgenders to claim that they too fall under the same global umbrella. The same change that allowed transsexuals to escape the label of mental illness is very appealing to transgenderists searching for legitimacy.
If we use the original definition of a mental disorder as a mental condition that interferes with the patients' ability to cope with the world around them (such as negatively affecting their mood, thinking, and behavior), we are left with the fact that both Gender Identity Disorder and Gender Dysphoria certainly seem to describe the impact on mental functioning to a physical problem - in other words, a mental disorder.
Given the huge comorbidity with other mental disorders such as suicidal ideation, it may be time to re-examine some assumptions, and by this, I don't just mean disorders.
Is there really a difference between sex and gender? Even in transsexuals, the two are extremely tightly bound - treatment to reduce the difference between physical sex and perceived gender works with a 95-98% rate. It would be just as valid to state that treatment to reduce the difference between physical sex and perceived sex works. In chasing the idea that sex and gender are two different things in an attempt to explain transsexuality, we may have missed the obvious - it's only because of the "gender identity" concept that we miss the obvious - that it's all about sex. It's also why a perceived difference between perceived and physical sex causes distress in the first place. If they were completely separate, one would not impinge on the other, the same way that eye colour doesn't affect height.
Calling it gender identity instead of perceived sex led to the disassociation of the two. The concept of "gender identity" being separate from physical sex is hard for people to wrap their minds around; a lot harder than the correlation between physical sex and perceived sex, and the obvious problems that can be expected to arise when the two don't match. It also leads directly to the current alphabet soup of "genders" that is the transgendered community, and the confusion with transsexuals.
Screw that, and screw the LGBT "community", that loves using us to raise their profile for fund raising purposes and then continues to throw us under the bus. And those bathroom bills the LGBT community is "helping us fight?" Don't need your help. Permanent change will come via the courts if anyone is foolish enough to press charges. And considering they've already mistakenly arrested at least on xx woman, I'm not worried.
Perhaps it's time... (Score:2, Insightful)
Perhaps it's time to put down the idea of 'gender', just be 'human', and get the "f*uck" over it.
"Transgender" are delusional (Score:2)
That the entire concept of "transgender" is based on delusion [wikipedia.org] of the sufferers — and humoring them by the rest of us — is not obvious yet? And I mean "delusion" as a psychiatric term: "an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary".
How is a man "identifying as a woman" — in the face of his own evident penis — any more sane, than one "identifying as Napoleon"?
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If you read what I wrote, I made it clear that we made a mistake in splitting sex and gender apart.
However, your definition of a delusion is at odds with the medical community's definition. It's only a problem when it interferes with day-to-day living, behavior, etc. Otherwise religious people would be classified as mentally ill, even though their religion does not cause them distress.
Also, you fall into the same problem everyone else does - transgender is not the same as transsexual. Get over it already
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That's great! I included a warning against it "just in case" — having seen attempts to distinguish between these synonyms before.
It is not "my" definition — it comes straight from the dictionary [princeton.edu], and Wikipedia's entry on the subject defines it the same way. It does not have to be interfering or harmful to be a delusion.
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First, transgender and transsexual are NOT synonyms. Transgenderists covers a wide range of types, including cross-dressers, gender-fluid, genderfucked, genderqueer, agender, and whatever. Transsexual is a term for a very specific medical condition, not a lifestyle or fetish. This is one of the distinctions that the LGBT have been trying to blur, so that people won't point out that cross-dressing is a sexual paraphilia.
You REALLY need to read what I wrote instead of assuming before you comment.
I use the
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Ah, but it is crucially important to so many different aspects of public life... Sorry, but you can't protest other people's "bigotry", demand "acceptance", organize boycotts, and otherwise make a very real nuisance of yourself over a delusion. A self-perceived "Napoleon" may wear a triangular hat to his heart's content, but he does not get to command armies, however hurtful to his feelings such disrespect may be.
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You broke your promise. Tsk tsk ...
Also, mental illness no longer has anywhere near the public stigma it used to have. Actually, here it has pretty much none - there's been a lot of money spent over the years educating the public as to what mental illness is and removing it from the scary unknown. Plus, since it's illegal here to discriminate against someone with a mental disorder, it's not going to cost you a job unless it affects your ability to do the job after reasonable efforts are made to accommodate
Freedom of association and insanity (Score:2)
Thank you for admitting, "transgender" really is a mental illness — or, perhaps, merely a symptom of one. Obtaining such an admission really made the "promise-breaking" worth it.
Yeah, that silly "freedom of association" [wikipedia.org] has always been overrated, has it not?
My condolences and best wishes to anyone living in a society, where the mentally ill make ru
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Some forms of transgenderism most cetainly are mental illnesses - the cross-dressers are sexual paraphiliacs, for example. Now as far as transsexuals are concerned, as I wrote, it makes NO difference to the treatment. Call it whatever you will, but sex change operations have a 98% success rate in reducing gender dysphoria without negative side effects. To steal a line from TransAmerica, "Isn't it strange that a physical operation (cross-gender genital surgery) can fix a mental problem?" She was being sarcas
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Yes, sure. Let me fix it for you: "Some instances of identifying as something different from what one is are more equal than others."
May I call it "carrots" or "floor-tiles?" Probably not. Why not? "Because words have this remarkable property of possessing specific meanings, we must take care to use the correct ones?" Right?
"Mental disorder" is it. And we've already established that, so let's moveon to the new topic:
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Also the freedom from association means you're free to withdraw from something to your own private hidey-hole. That's it. Nothing more. However, as an employer (you hire a babysitter), you're not allowed to discriminate. You're free not to hire anyone if you think that's too much of an imposition and do it yourself.
That example is apropos because a site that helps people hire nannies refused a customer who wanted s
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Ah, yes, "you can do it, but I'll kill you as a consequence" — the sort of reasoning any authoritarian would love.
"Public shaming" would've been fine. But we both know, it is not merely "shameful" — it is bona fide illegal. And that violates the freedom of association, which — as we've already agreed — naturally includes freedom from association.
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See, there's your mistake - claiming that there is a Creator who endows people with special rights. A Creator that, even after all these millennia, there is no proof of. "You have to have faitl." Yeah, riiiight. That same faith argument is equally valid for saying I have faith that there is no Creator.
Now, again. find me ONE example of a "natural right." You claimed they exist, but I don't see you showing any proof for it. Even invoking a creator doesn't make it a natural right - created rights are not na
Natural rights (Score:2)
You've now been defeated on two topic, but wish to try for the third? I'm switching the subject — again — to reflect this.
America's Declaration of Independence, already cited, explicitly lists three: "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness".
Distinction without difference — as long as th
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The american declaration of independence doesn't list any natural rights. The death penalty, war, the food chain, etc., all show that there is no "natural right" to life. The existence of slavery throughout mankind's history shows that there is no "natural right" to liberty. The pursuit of happiness is constrained - ask any slave.
You have no proof of your gods existence and anyone else does for theirs. And let's face it - you can't all be right. So all you have is argumentum ad nauseum.
And you seem to fo
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Is this another delusion? I cited the three rights explicitly listed.
A person committing a capital crime, or waging an unjust war may lose the right to live. But he is born with it...
False. The right existed — even if it was not prop
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None of the rights you existed are in fact natural rights. Just because you or the declaration of independence say so doesn't make it so, and I've provided plenty of examples where these so-called "natural rights" were ignored from the founding of the country to today.
There were no gods,no creator, and the lack of proof of same puts it on the same level as claiming natural rights from their existence. Logic fail.
Liberty - slaves? The civil war was fought 80 years after the signature of the declaration of
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In the US, that right extends well beyond one's own home. Ten people can get together, rent a space for a meeting (or just all sit together at a large table in a restaurant as long as the owner does not object -- as long as the owner's objection is not based on the people being members of a protected class such as religion, race etc), and invite or exclude anyone they want for any, or no, reason. They can do t
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But they can't do so if they are offering a product or service to the general public because of race, religion or lack thereof, language, sex or sexual orientation, or any of the other proscribed reasons.
Or did you intentionally miss this:
Freedom of association is not the same as freedom to provide a service to a portion of the public based on a protected characteristic.The rules are - you want to provide that good or service, abide by the rules. Otherwise, you will be closed down and someone else will take your place.
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In the US, this only applies to commercial entities available to the general public.
A entity that provides services, even if commercial, to a membership group can pretty much discriminate however they like by restricting membership (as, obviously, can social clubs, religions, etc). There are a few fringe cases where this is not true, but it's the general rule. I could, if I saw fit, open a private club, only allow atheists (or gays or female or Muslims or Asian-Americans) to join, and charge membership fees
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What sort of delusion does Joanna Giannouli [bbc.com] suffer from?
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I wouldn't mention this if you weren't a writer... (Score:2)
We know that schizophrenia is a mental illness with its' roots in the physical brain
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As to civil unions and gay marriage, why is discrimination against me not only legal but practiced by governments? Why is it legal to discriminate against single people?
Why should a married couple earning $50k per year pay fewer taxes than the widow of a soldier with a child who earns the same amount?
It's unfair and illogical. Two for the price of one sandwiches piss me off, too.
The government should h
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je, tu, il, elle, nous, vous, ils, elles. A few more specifiers, and no 'it' in sight when referring to people. I like it that way, since I am not an 'it.' The language just doesn't let people depersonalize someone, just misgender them. :-) However, the apostrophe is completely superfluous (my mistake) - it should be its, plain and simple nowadays.
I prefer the government to control legal stuff like marriages and unions - think about all the religions that forbid divorce and remarriage, or forbid the woma
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no 'it' in sight when referring to people
Agreed. "It" is for things, and people are not things. Harry lost his virginity, Mary lost her keys, and the computer lost its internet connection.
I prefer the government to control legal stuff like marriages and unions
Why? Why should the government care what my relation to another person is? Unless, of course, discrimination is legal.
think about all the religions that forbid divorce and remarriage, or forbid the woman to be divorced if her husband doesn't consent.
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The government should have nothing to do with marriage or any other kind of union.
You're single, all right. Else you'd not forget that marriage covers a lot more than sleeping arrangements--it's a legally binding contract involving money/property and many other tangibles, as well as a host of rights and obligations the exercise of which have very real consequences, and not only for the marrieds. A key raison d'être for government is the adjudication and enforcement of contracts.
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Else you'd not forget that marriage covers a lot more than sleeping arrangements--it's a legally binding contract involving money/property and many other tangibles, as well as a host of rights and obligations the exercise of which have very real consequences, and not only for the marrieds.
I was married for 27 years. Were it not for government involvement my marriage would have been over when she walked away from our family for another guy. Obligations? Like not being a serial adulterer? Guess what, NO pena
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Yes, "unions" are private affairs. For the purposes of contract enforcement, as a fictional example I may wish to live with my brother and grandmother, and put them on my employer's health insurance, and give them first dibs at my adopted child. I.e. I should be able to specify intra- and inter-household contractual arrangements, for the government to enforce, independent of a romantic relationship. My love life is not the government's business.
Here civil unions can be formed for that express purpose - no need to live together, and it's not considered as a form of marriage or whatever, because civil unions can have other purposes, such as designating someone to pull the plug if it comes to that, or lines of inheritance that bypass any blood lineage. The idea of the civil union is not just to govern individual relationships, but to give others who may not be family a greater voice when decisions are to be made, overriding the relatives decisions, a
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Yes, it is. There is absolutely NO law you can point me to that says it's illegal to withhold goods or services from single people. AND there's that widowed mother paying higher taxes than the childless married couple.
Just waving your hands and saying "it;s not so" doesn't make it so. Facts are facts. And I agree that my love life isn't the government's business.
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My point exactly. Thank you.
I know we've had our disagreements in the past (Score:2)
But this is downright awesome. The further our society goes down this line, the more horrified I am of what passes for tolerance these days.
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I came back here because I just posted this as a link on facebook in a discussion on how T doesn't fit with LGB.
Re-reading your last part, on T as a Mental Illness- as you know, I am now "ASD Level 1", the thing they renamed Asperger's to when ICD-10 and the DSM-V came into being. I think there is a great deal of bigotry against those suffering from mental illness- including in the LGB community. It's almost as if they know that the removal of homosexuality from the DSM-IIITR was in fact political, not sc
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60% of all males experiment with cross-dressing at some point. Women, on the other hand, are always wearing men's clothing without it being seen as exceptional. Jeans, men's oversized football shirt, denim jacket, baseball cap, runners - it's all good.
Transsexualism is a physical condition. What causes stress, as I explained, is the mismatch between physical sex and the mind's perception of what would be the right sex. We change the physical sex characteristics, the stress disappears, same as if someone is
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Barbara, I think this is well-written. Thanks for putting it out there.
I do have some thoughts about a few things, but I'm not going to write about it just yet: it's late where I am (almost 3:30am) and I can barely think straight. I'll follow up on this later.
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As for my preferred pronoun I am accustomed to “she/her” but am in search of a gender neutral pronoun that I am at ease with. For instance on social media I am using “they/them” to see how it feels! I’m definitely uncomfortable with phrases that are, to me, hyper-female such as “ladies” and “ma’am” and the repetitive use of “she/her.” I like how the term “non-binary“ seems to capture my feelings on that.
I also like to use “queer“ to describe myself as well, as I feel it speaks to my sense of gender as being very much about the combination of the masculine and feminine energies within me, as well as encompassing aspects of my sexual orientation.
Yet another gay male who hasn't figured things out and would rather hide under the "transgender" label than confront th
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This is probably not a popular thing to say but I'm gonna say it anyways. As someone who's an outsider but has spent a bunch of time in the midst of the "Queer Community" it's my observation that things started going poorly when people changed their sexuality preferences and gender identifications as a means of gaining popularity or as a fashionable thing to do.
It's all the rage to have an alternative lifestyle and I'm completely convinced that some have MADE A CHOICE to engage in that lifestyle as a means
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Why post it AC? The evidence is out there. Transsexuals for the most part KNOW when they're kids that something is wrong. And if they don't know, the other kids will not hesitate to beat it into them that they are different. As for gays, I can't speak from personal experience, but from observation it's the same thing. Just look at any grade school playground - young kids are vicious little animals akin to Lord of the Flies when they think they can get away with it.
See my comments elsewhere here for the "ge
Different forms of body dysmorphia (Score:2)
I'm told that people who are born with a gender and grow up earnestly believing that they are, in fact, of the opposite gender, frequently have a body dysmorphia and that appropriate treatment includes cosmetic surgery and medication to give them the appearance of the gender which they earnestly believe themselves to be.
However, there is another group of people who have a form of dysmorphia and who are treated rather differently by the medical profession; people who are in actual fact rather slim and who ea
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Because the person with anorexia will die if they don't eat. Eating is the only treatment that keeps them alive despite themselves. One of my sisters has this problem, and thinks that if she's over 90 pounds, she needs to lose weight. She's 5'4 and all skin and bones. She was fed for a while via a feeding tube inserted through the abdomen into her stomach. So, either get them to eat more or keep the feeding tube in (which isn't a long-term solution because the very liquid diet is far from complete over the
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Because the person with anorexia will die if they don't eat. Eating is the only treatment that keeps them alive despite themselves. One of my sisters has this problem, and thinks that if she's over 90 pounds, she needs to lose weight. She's 5'4 and all skin and bones. She was fed for a while via a feeding tube inserted through the abdomen into her stomach. So, either get them to eat more or keep the feeding tube in (which isn't a long-term solution because the very liquid diet is far from complete over the long term. People need fibre, etc.)
If we could just graft weight onto them, I'd be quite happy to donate, but it doesn't work that way. Surgery won't fix their body image problems. Different problems, different solutions.
Right. So the person with gender dysphoria/dysmorphia won't die if they don't get the gender reassignment surgery. Since its destructive surgery its probably best not to do it at all. This relates to my point in the other post; its possibly a violation of the Hippocratic oath. I know its not actually part of the oath itself but its commonly said "First, do no harm".
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You are ignoring the very high suicide rate among transsexuals who don't get treatment. Surgery is perfectly acceptable under the "harm reduction" model.
You're also ignoring those who "take matters into their own hands" with a butcher knife. After someone's cut the meat and 2 potatoes off, might as well just finish it properly. Restoring it is just going to lead to the same or worse in the future. Again, no other justification except harm reduction is needed.
We do destructive surgery all the time on healt
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Isn't there also a very high rate of suicide among those who have had the surgery?
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Gender as continuum (Score:2)
In certain cultures, gender is treated as something which is polar, that there is one gender and there is another, separate gender. In these cultures people are only allowed to be one gender or the other; theres no middle ground.
It strikes me that there are other cultures in which gender isn't so fixed, isn't so polarized; where people can be seen to be somewhere in between genders, along a continuum.
In the Western cultures the LGBT problems are, perhaps, being caused by this; people who don't really want t
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Well, first, we are not in any of those cultures. Second, transsexualism is far from unique to our culture.
There is nothing wrong with being at one or the other ends of the gender binary. This is what scares the LGBT - that transsexuals reinforce the concept of heteronormal gender identity. Only 18% of male-to-female transsexuals end up lesbian. The whole concept of "straight as a male, straight as a female" threatens them. I was not told to choose - it simplt doesn't work that way. It's no more of a choic
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I think its really sad and unfortunate that Western and Middle-Eastern cultures don't handle these issues better.
If these people were born in Polynesian cultures they'd be fa'fafine and have a well-defined place in society. In many cultures these people were a way to bypass certain taboos. For example in some native American cultures women were prohibited from going on extended hunting expeditions and men were prohibited from performing certain kinds of domestic duty. Someone who was both male/female could
My thoughts after three days. (Score:2)
There is a lot of serious thinking and discussion here. I'm impressed with the effort and skill in which the issues are raised and the many insightful responses.
There is no lack of thought and consideration in addressing the ideas discussed. Having read all of this I believe that our time and energy spent on this topic, or any other, has a great deal of value, and will ultimately bring us to a deeper understanding of being human.
This is a process, and sometimes a frustrating experience. Reality is every
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Did you ever read any sci-fi that dealt with "consensus reality"? Some of that stuff really makes you challenge your assumptions - always a good thing. And yes, this is a process, and sometimes a frustrating experience. Reality is everyone's fault and nobody gets to control it.
People: can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.
Unfortunately, we're not there yet :-( But we're certainly better than we were a century ago ... and we need to be better over the next century just to survive until then. Unfortunately, we're way past too many tipping points to do s
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There definitely will be great transformation. Long ago my sense of reason lost hope with the trajectory and momentum. It feels like watching a train crash in slow motion. But there's this peculiar way that things can suddenly shift right before your eyes, and its still impossible to see because it takes time to settle into the fold. There's a lot of two steps forward and one step backward going on all of the time.
For some reason, when I feel myself getting bogged down by the futility and despair - or
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I think that all people have times when they're either stupid, crazy, or full of it, it's just human nature. Learning involves pushing the envelope in different ways. "You can't go to the moon in a rocket. There's nothing for the exhaust to push against in space." "Trains will never run faster than a horse. If they did, all the air would be sucked out and the passengers asphyxiated." "There's only a market for 5 computers in the whole united states." "The black man is intellectually inferior to the white m
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Same as the current crop of election slogans. I like that phrase - "the Prophet Carlin."
Yeah, me too, but honestly, I stole it from Robert Anton Wilson (satirist/intellectual/hippy) in Carlin's league of great minds. Some of his rants are on you tube.
If it were not for the music and satire spin that they create, I would take it all too seriously all of the time and that's a hopeless feeling.
Its easier to shake it off intellectually if our culture can aspire to a higher standard than the status quo of cruel shoes.
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Screw that, and screw the LGBT "community", that loves using us to raise their profile for fund raising purposes and then continues to throw us under the bus. And those bathroom bills the LGBT community is "helping us fight?" Don't need your help.
So......why did bathrooms recently become such an issue? I would guess that transsexuals have been using whichever bathroom for decades now without any real problems.
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Transsexuals have indeed been using bathrooms for decades with no hassles. The problem is now that transsexuals are just seen by many as part of the transgendered, who portray this as an attack, for example, on transgenderists who enjoy cross-dressing on the weekend. Cross-dressers have zero reason to be in the women's bathroom if they've got the male dangly bits - let them get their thrills elsewhere. Bathrooms are for peeing - not sexual fetish wish fulfillment.
These bathroom bills are nothing new. They
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Screw that. The LGBT community's bullshit affects me as well as other transsexuals. We're fed up and we're not going to take it any more.
And a lot of the self-styled transgenderists are in for a rude awakening - remember Facebook's "authentic names" policy? Today's CBC News points out that they better be ready to prove this is the name they go by in their day-to-day life, and not just while trolling on the intarwebs. Two thumbs up!!
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You're welcome. You should see how screwed up the LGBT is when it comes to transsexuals. From this weekend: there's this "Gender therapist" who after 6 years still hasn't figured out how they want to be addressed but is writing a book called "YOU AND YOUR GENDER IDENTITY: A GUIDE TO DISCOVERY." Sheesh! You're writing this and you haven't sorted out your own case? And you then criticize transsexuals who point out that maybe, just maybe, transgenders should back off telling us who WE are?
They said that in th
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You should see how screwed up the LGBT is when it comes to transsexuals. From this weekend: there's this "Gender therapist" who after 6 years still hasn't figured out how they want to be addressed but is writing a book called "YOU AND YOUR GENDER IDENTITY: A GUIDE TO DISCOVERY." Sheesh! You're writing this and you haven't sorted out your own case?
I may be totally off-base here, but maybe this isn't a problem with the LGBT community at-large, but maybe this person.
One thing I've noticed in life is that peopl
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They specifically, after 6 years of practice, haven't decided how they want to be addressed. That's really messed up. He needs to see a doctor who is a gender specialist (or any medical doctor). They're not a doctor, so ...
Moral of the story - don't give money to people who aren't working under the supervision of a doctor, preferably a specialist.
The damage has been and continues to be done. A lot of us are royally fed up with it, and speaking out. Now since many transsexuals are not gay or lesbian, why w
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It's not "gay" or "transgender" rights. The common cause, which is lost in all the shouting, is civil rights, for everybody. I believe you are seeing an infiltration of agent provocateurs dividing people up into little bitty pieces, got everybody shooting at each other. It appears the mission was accomplished.
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Yes, yes, they are. They are seeking the right to *force acceptance* on other people.
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They don't want appropriate medical access for heterosexuals.
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Yes, there most certainly is.
To me that line is crossed in families when they're willing to invite you becomes you expect to be invited.
In greater society, that line is crossed when willing to sign a contract with you for *some services* becomes forced under pain of fine or jail time to sign a contract with you for *services explicitly not offered*.
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I do say the same about other minorities. I still don't understand why the solution to jim crow laws wasn't to open competing towns without jim crow laws.
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Sweet Cakes by Melissa was a cupcake business. They didn't make wedding cakes- for anybody. But they were sued out of business and now home by the State for refusing to bake a wedding cake for lesbians. I thought you knew this.
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"allowed to live where he/she wants and be treated like everyone else" is special rights. Nobody is allowed to do this, or else I'd have already relocated to Eastern Kiribarti
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Civil rights like the ability to steal a baker's business and home for *not* wanting to sign a contract with you?
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"systemic discrimination", yeah right. Her systemic discriminaiton was to fail to offer a product that she didn't offer to *anybody* gay or straight.
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An order form in a bakery business is a contract. Did you not know that contracts exist outside of banks? And when you are talking about forcing people to do business with people they don't like, you've created a new set of contract laws called involuntary servitude?
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I can't believe you didn't get the hint by bakers. Melissa's Sweet Cakes in Oregon didn't make wedding cakes for *anybody*- they made cupcakes. Two lesbians sued them out of business and home for refusing to bake them a wedding cake.
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It's not involuntary servitude. You either have the choice to follow the law or stop your activity. Same as obeying the speed limit isn't involuntary servitude - follow the law or don't drive. Don't steal. Don't rape (oh, but I'm a horn-dog. Saying I can't rape someone is making me practice restraint, and that's involuntary servitude.)
Remember that men's rights advocate Roosh V who was "empowering" men, giving seminars saying that raping your girlfriend is okay? The ass-hole who was found to still be livin
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It was not a service that they offered- to anybody. And since they didn't offer it to anybody, they lost their house. That is involuntary,
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It was not a service that they offered- to anybody. And since they didn't offer it to anybody, they lost their house. That is involuntary,
The wedding cake one was indeed a service they offered to everyone - except two gay men.
Here [aclu-co.org]
Phillips admitted he had turned away other same-sex couples as a matter of policy. The CCRD’s decision noted evidence in the record that Phillips had expressed willingness to take a cake order for the “marriage” of two dogs, but not for the commitment ceremony of two women, and that he would not make a cake for a same-sex couple’s wedding celebration “just as he would not be willing to make a pedophile cake.
The whole pedophilia thing is a red herring - nobody asked them to make a cake that promotes the crime of child sexual abuse, or any other crime.
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I'm fortunate to live in Canada, but the amount of ignorant hate from south of the border is unreal, and people just like me are on the receiving end. Their right to use the bathroom that is appropriate for them has not, unlike here, been settled law for about 30 years. Their right to receive equal treatment from anyone offering goods or services to the public is very visibly under attack.
Add to that the confusion that the LGBT community everywhere has sown about transsexuals, when many, perhaps even the m
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Coming soon to a country near you:
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/transgender-bathroom-bill-passes-with-crucial-support-of-16-tories [nationalpost.com]
Next step is that the Human Rights Commission starts shutting down businesses for rape victims who don't want to mess with the threat other genders represent.
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Come on - did you even look at the year that was published? 2013???
Quebec already has much better laws in place to deal with discrimination based on sex, including sexual identity. Unlike places such as British Columbia, we aware $$$$$ damages to victims.
And I don't understand your last sentence at all ... please, clarify it a bit?
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Women only, or men only, businesses would be illegal under this law, wouldn't they?
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To whom it may concern
I have been following the above-mentioned patient for transsexualism since $date. They are undergoing hormonal replacement therapy, and is living life as a woman. They are being treated as a female in our clinic and should be treated as such in their daily interactions with the public. They should be referred to as $female first name $last name.
Respectfully
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Until you get your legal paperwork (birth certificate, etc) all finalized, this can help. I ended up using it court once - no problemo! You never know when you might need it, and it's always better to be safe than sorry.
Of course this won't help those who are not transsexual, but that's irrelevant to this discussion. Plus, I don't want someone who doesn't identify full-time as a
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I think it was Deng Xiaoping who said, "It doesn't matter whether it's a white cat or a black cat--if it catches mice, it's a good cat."
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You really need to learn how to read. I was in favor of same-sex marriage long before it became a cause celebre - my position was either allow it for everyone, or disallow it for everyone - straight or gay. Anything else is clearly discriminatory. I would have preferred that they eliminate marriage for everyone - divorce is a very destructive and expensive process.
LGBT individuals have been attacking transsexuals just as badly as the religious right. You just don't notice it because you're not the target.
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You are so far behind the times it's not funny. You also can't read. I gave reasons why some transsexuals can't get SRS. It has nothing to do with a desire to keep a fully functioning joy stick. You want to remain as an intact functional male, you don't meet the definition for transsexual - you're at best transgender, which is not the same, contrary to the LGBT line. But I already wrote that, and you didn't read it then either. Sheesh.
So when I say gay cross-dressers are not transsexuals, and you say some
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I don't think it ever will solve the problem of equality. A former neighbor is looking for a new place, and 2-1/2 years ago I had told him to look where I live now. He's looking again, and it turns out he doesn't want to move here because "Too many pakis. There's a hindu temple down the street." I keep telling him to stop being racist, but I'm talking to a rock. A really dumb rock. He kept cheesing me off, I kicked him out.
The problem is, NOBODY else can stand him for more than 5 minutes, so ... (why yes,