And it's for that reason that I always discuss package during the initial phone call.
But you'd be surprised at the number of prospective employees that say "it depends". They may be prepared to waste their time, but I'm supposed to waste a couple of man days on their whim?
I even try to explain that it's just a mutual efficiency thing...
But it's like they think I'm just trick them... How does that benefit me? They start, they are unproductive while they learn stuff, then they get a better offer? I want to find people that want to work for me, not just those looking for a job...
I don't know about other hiring managers but I have a budget, I can't afford to build my team with only the most experienced, I need a balanced team with a mix of skills and seniority levels... Money is not free, salaries make up ~90% of my costs so there isn't a lot of room for making savings elsewhere...
i think it works like this... Engineer wants to work for us ( interesting product ) and the package we offer is smaller than they could get at a large company, but the work is more interesting and there is significant upside.... Partner of engineer prefers package size over interesting work because they don't have to do the work... We've even started having the CEO talk to the partner in some cases.
Vanye.