Comment Re:I jumped ship, but hard sell for non-techies (Score 1) 94
Change my mind.
Not his job, bud.
Amazing you thought it was clever to drop to sissy status to write that, Bud.
Change my mind.
Not his job, bud.
Amazing you thought it was clever to drop to sissy status to write that, Bud.
Linux is still rougher and costs more time. Windows is going downhill though so maybe that's how it balances out. Regarding the flatpak/system/etc complaints, the windows equivalent is the Windows Store vs regular installer version. Imagine somebody questioning that division and branded as an idiot because they didn't RTFM or divine the wisdom of MS or something.
I do know that as a person who got dragged into computer support, mainly because I used and worked with MacOS, and our support army was all Windows centric, your comment about costing more time got a chuckle. Our Linux people used no support, We had a hundred or so Macs, and if I had one support call a week, it was a busy week.
On the Windows end, however, we had more computers, of course - several hundred. We had a departmental group of around 25 people with a group leader and a supervisor, and a department head to keep them running. And I even got sucked into Windows support, especially for the C-Suite. And my burn rate was significant.
I'm not going to change your mind of course, I'm just speaking from my own experience. I've been dipping in and out of Linux for 20 years, more "out" than "in", until now. Back then, dipping in, audio didn't work well, network was a huge fuss, USB was a fuss, KDevelop was miles from Visual Studio, gfx drivers were a gamble on a good day and the list goes on. Now it's miles ahead. I'm still hoping to get a DAW/VSTs working without spending weekends though...
You aren't wrong. When I first tried Linux, it was still on mini floppies. It was a fuss, and not worth the effort. After Unix based MacOS came out, and I had to use Terminal daily, Linux clicked. Especially after my Linux mentor noted "Think of MacOS as the slickest, shiniest version of Linux". Because in the meantime, Linux had been improving. Suddenly everything fit. So now, my main emphasis is on usability, security, and the software I need. So I have that Windows laptop for the one Windows only program, my Mac for most things, and some Linux machines that I have fun with.
Irony possibly, but the Windows laptop is still most of the problems.
Remember that your "too stupid" could be somebody else's "I don't have time for this shit" - people pick their battles, and OS minutae might not be it.
Remember if they don't have time for Linux shit, they don't have time for Windows shit either. Change my mind.
Yeap but here they're establishing that the next 'civilisation'-ending virus which jumps from wild animals to humans was as a result of a vote by people considered to speak for the natural world.
Perhaps there's a DNA modification which would prevent people from experiencing the urge to commit genocide or support it ?
Just return to hunter gatherer days, and end all civilization. Like it or not, if it can be done, it will be done.
>"How could I sell Linux to a non-techie when before you can even install an app you have to choose a flatpak, an appimage or a system package, or a
By steering them to a friendly distro like Mint, maybe? It will use native apps for most everything important. Non-techies will usually just browse the software installer and see what is available and install stuff from there. And it will work. And Mint is "store" and "SNAP"-free, so they won't encounter that mess.
The people who have the woeful tales of "Linux is too hard!" must never have used Mint. If Mint is too hard, all computing is too hard. Have them get a smartphone, then when they have problems they can go to the store they bought it at.
How could I sell Linux to a non-techie when before you can even install an app you have to choose a flatpak, an appimage or a system package, or a
You tell them to go to AT&T, or Verizon. and get a SmartPhone. Eternal September lives on, and if they are too stupid to use Linux, they will have the same problems or worse with Windows.
Few, if any are leaving Windows for Linux.
FAR fewer still are choosing Zorin as their distro.
This story is a steaming pile of bull-fucking-shit.
Can you show us on the doll where Linux hurt you? That's the first step in getting rid of your anger problems.
>"These newbies will make some minor change to their desktop, and everything will blow up. And they will be counseled to tweak this or that, but it will fail. And they will say WTF?"
When did you last use a Linux desktop? 20 years ago?
Probably never - it's just a popular thing for the Windows uber alles crowd to chant.
These newbies will make some minor change to their desktop, and everything will blow up. And they will be counseled to tweak this or that, but it will fail. And they will say WTF?
2005 called. Look - It's all fun and games to make claims about Linux that were true20 years ago. I use Windows MacOS and Linux. Windows gives me 90 percent of computing problems. While using it the least. So these clueless people have no problems on The bestest, most popular, largest installed user base OS?
In 2025, the conversation often goes "so don't run Linux, it's cool, Linux doesn't need you, the growth is happening with or without you."
And it has been that way for a lot of us for a long time. To put it bluntly, I don't care. I don't use an operating system based on popularity. I do have 1 program that I need to use that runs on Windows only. When I need to use it, I pull out the laptop it is on, use it, turn it off and it sits until the next time. Then I go back to MacOS or Linux and have a week or more of problem free computing.
You have to use Windows and cannot use anything else? I feel badly for ya. That and a dollar will get you a down payment on a cup of Starbucks coffee.
Interestingly, Vonnegut made it clear in interviews that the story Harrison Bergeron was deliberately intended to be an over-the-top parody of the claims made by Ayn-Rand style "meritocracy" folks, by stretching their belief system to the point of ridicule so he could make fun of it. Vonnegut himself tended towards socialism, as is clear from most of his works. You might want to try reading the story again with that interpretation and perhaps you will see it in a new light.
Let's go. Since you claim to know about me, you simply must know that my use of the terms left and right wing are terms I us that people can understand, as in reality, the further "left" and further "right" people go, they eventually end up indistinguishable from each other in effect, if not rhetoric. I would say that 90 percent of people cannot grok that.
Some discussion here, and elsewhere.
If you are attempting to skewer my insights, the first two posts are equally valid, they are also opposed. Which one is correct, mon ami?
Both can be, if we understand my belief that the so called left/right spectrum is actually circular in nature.
Would you agree that Vonnegut's theme was more a warning parody about the dangers of forced equality, which requires suppression of individual differences, and how enforcement of that strict equality would lead to ridiculous lengths?
Would you agree that there are examples of that both left and right?
Can you give an analysis that illustrates that only right wing totalitarianism systems lead to enforcement of the least common denominator?That lack of ability would be the goal? In 1930's Germany, there was an ongoing effort to create an ubermenchen, based on presumed positive traits of individuals, not taking the weakest, and forcing the strongest to emulate them. Indeed and in fact, old Uncle Adolph and his merry band were demonstrably not so nice to those they considered weak and inferior.
Personally, I have often found that the people I have known who worry about things like "the tyranny of the weak" often tend to have some pretty tyrant-like ideas themselves, and may imagine that THEY are the best sort of people and deserve to be in control.
Here's a homework assignment for you if you wish. Since you have already strawmanned me, look me up on slashdot, and prove that I fit your accusation.
Considering I have voted only Democrat since 1999, make your accusation fit.
Side note: After the 2024 debacle when the Democrats were curb stomped, losing the presidency, losing the Senate, continuing minority in the House of Representatives, minority status in state governments (27 Republican, 23 Democrat) with 23 Trifectas Republican to 23 Trifectas Democrat - I decided to do a analysis of how this happened. The analysis was bothersome. How do you enact your beliefs when you have no control.
They also tend to conveniently choose the criteria that "best" is judged by to include whatever they are good at, and not include the skills of others, particularly social skills.
Perhaps not unlike the Democrats abandoning the working class for a small group of far left academics and claiming that anyone voting for Republicans is stupid? https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbiaspectator.... https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fopinion%2F51... https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fdemoc... https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.promarket.org%2F2025...
I have not included the bizarre idea that anyone with a penis is the enemy. They lost young males, who have been raised in an atmosphere that claims that men are the cause of every problem on earth. That is a matter for further discussion if you like.
Consider this - what does it take to lose to the orange shitgibbon and his merry band? But I digress.
By the standards of most cavemen, you yourself are probably pretty weak, I'd imagine. You probably wouldn't survive a one-on-one fight with one. Or with a gorilla for that matter. Or with a mammoth, or with a sabre-tooth tiger. And yet, weirdly enough, those aren't what rules the world today. It's almost as though the ability to work effectively in groups often outweighs the ability of individuals to excel at any particular skill...
I fear you seem to think that "cavemen" lacked the ability to work in groups? group cooperation has been a core competency of humanity from very early times. https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhumanorigins.si.edu%2Fhu....
So here is the really strange thing - you apparently believe that social skills trump "any particular skill." I dunno, I'm considered an expert in electromagnetic matters - think radios, and that cellphone in your pocket. Can you just hop in and do my work with your social skills? By the way, my skillset includes some pretty honed social skills. I've been told many times that one of my biggest strengths is that I can tell someone to go to hell in a way that they look forward to the trip.
It's not necessarily the strongest who survive. Sometimes they're the first to get taken out. For the safety of others who they might otherwise try to dominate and control. There is still strength in numbers, after all, and just because the strongest, or smartest, or most vicious, or whatever may think they have the right to be in control doesn't mean that everybody else is obligated to allow them into that position. People act according to their talents and protect their interests, and evolution works in far stranger ways than are dreamt of in Ayn Rand's rather simplistic philosophy. Sometimes societal evolution trumps individual evolution, and the battle is won by the most socially connected rather than by the strongest, because that is also a form of strength.
Something to think about.
Funny. You seem to have a deep and irresistible desire to cast me as a Randian - Ayn was an intelligent idiot, an example of trying to promote an 'ism that rapidly fails because she makes horrible incorrect assumptions about human nature.She was a first class hypocrite, who ended up living on the government dole. You also show that you are immersed in the idea that social skills are all that is needed. Too many of your sentences show otherwise.
There is room at the table for everyone - or should be. Don't think that people with technical or mechanical skills, or physical skills are inferior to the you so called elite. Don't think that it is an either/or situation where people with technical skills are socially clueless. Don't think that the less educated are stupid. Don't actively alienate people who should be allies. Funny how my egalitarian instincts are so passé among people that used to define themselves by the concept that all people are equal. Now they seem to believe that the ability to rise to leadership is the mark of psychopaths, yet really offer no alternatives other than attempts to hamstring them, leading back to my Harrison Bergeron comparison. Now the far left educated elite rule the party, and they can and will tell you who is better than others. Just happens to be them - ask them. And frankly, their social skills are horrible. Once outside their bubble, they barely function in a world where few understand they are the superior humans. Do better.
Hoping that the Democrats learn to read the room, and abandon some of the far left ideas they've incorporated, and produce electable candidates. Hoping the Democrats become a party of ideas, not a party of "When we want your opinion, we'll tell you what it is."
[...] None of this is living in my head rent free - only takes a little time to suss out the issues. I write, maybe troll a little, then go about my day.
Cute, even with the unironic discussion of irony self-contradiction.
I think about many things. I investigate many matters, many people, many problems. Your argument says exactly that all of that lives in my head, rent free. Ima smart guy, but the old cranium doesn't have enough room for that many people living in my head constantly, and the orange shitgibbon is just one of many things I occasionally do think about, usually when someone tries to hijack a thread. I think about him for a moment, then get on wit me life. Discussion of him, or Jeffrey Dahmer, or Gradyloo, or quantum mechanics is just thoughts and assessments, then move on to the next thought.
I think about Sydney Sweeney more than Cheeto. She could live rent free in my house although the wife might object.
We could talk about that if you like.
No.
This room-temperature ice is simply a plot device that demonstrates the sheer stupidity of human behavior.
But the big question is what do you think about coconuts and their impact on Hydrangeas?
Build a system that even a fool can use and only a fool will want to use it.