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Journal tomhudson's Journal: Stupid Recruiter Trix #1 - Oracle isn't sql 19

That's right - one of my former co-workers tells me about the recruiter who refused to forward his resume because he lacked sql knowledge - apparently a decade of mysql and oracle doesn't count as "sql".

The Internet will make most of these people go away, just like it did for travel agents, and is doing for newspapers.

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Stupid Recruiter Trix #1 - Oracle isn't sql

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  • We still use our travel agent quite a bit. My assumption is that anyone still in business at this point has been able to figure out the tricks needed to stay alive in the internet age.
  • I love reading newspapers. I'm ready to pay higher price to continue having them around. There is no substitute to newspapers, internet is too noisy and pushes people away from reaching moments of serendipity. Modeled after the "slow food" movement, I proclaim myself a "slow news" reader :-)
  • I still use my horse-drawn carriage. A car will never match the warmth and unique feel of wooden wheels on a dirt road full of pits.
  • Ahhh yes. I look back on those days with amusement now. Being told that I wasn't suitable for the job, because despite my BSD, SunOS, Solaris and HP/UX experience, the job required Unix.
  • Oracle isn't sql

    Well, yeah, they only have like one letter in common, and it's not even a vowel!

    You'll be claiming Lua counts, too. At least it has the same number of letters as sql, so it must be closer.
  • Don't diss newspapers. It is much easier to pick up a newspaper and read through the days news than to try and find out WTF is going on using Google New's new layout.

  • ...a recruiter for jobs mostly using Microsoft technologies. I.e. the requirements lists I see don't say for example "3 yrs exp. with SQL", they say things like "3 yrs exp. with SQL Server 2005; 2008 preferred". And experience with other DBMS's and their stored procedure languages aren't what employers using MS SQL Server want. (And in this employers' market, they can hold out for the perfect match.)

    I'm just glad recruiters eventually figured out that having JavaScript listed on my resume does not mean I'm

    • That's what he figured it might have been too, because it was the least stupid of all the stupid answers ... but then the next part doesn't jibe - "and you don't have experience with PHP Framework" - like there's a definitive php framework out there, instead of it being a generic category. [phpframeworks.com]

      All they did - and he watched them do it, was go across his resume and match words against a checklist. You could write a script that could do a better job. In fact, these people SHOULD be replaced by a perl script.

      I

      • Yeah, I used to encode the J-A-V-A part of "JavaScript" in HTML entities on my resume, so that a copy-n-paste-n-scan job from my web space wouldn't trigger Java hits back when that was all the rage.

        But I think you can cross the line of looking ridiculous to technical people, in trying to immunize yourself from all possible ingenious idiot HR peeps or recruiters. For example part of my resume starts "C, C++, ...". But I see the technically non-existent (altho effectively all too real) language "C/C++" in job

        • Well, if you look at todays post, you'll see that I actually called on 30-odd businesses today - including two or 3 1,000 - 10,000 employee ones - and the bigger they are, the more they think recruiters are for the birds (the actual words I used were "recruiters are trash", and they agreed).

          What's needed is for everyone to join the boycott of recruiters.

          They only have any sort of power because YOU think they do.

          When you contact companies, put a "Principals only - no recruiters" notice - you'll not only

          • by gmhowell ( 26755 )

            But do those large firms use HR dipshits who are just as clueless as the recruiters?

            • I talks to a couple of 9-figure companies last week, and they hate recruiters just as much. They know they're getting scammed.
              • by gmhowell ( 26755 )

                Yeah, I saw that. I want the next step. I'm trying to figure out with whom you actually did speak. Primaries and actual managers, or an HR department? If the latter, how in tune have they been thus far with the actual requirements of their various divisions vs. just vomiting up some alphabet soup, similar to the recruiters.

                • My goal last week was to talk abut replacing recruiters (and only indirectly related to anything else, such as tech in general).

                  At least with hr in a large company there's a chance they already have someone on site to feed them some quality judgments when it comes to doing an evaluation - certainly, it's more likely than with a "recritter" :-)

                  Hey, I kind of like that one - I think I'll keep using it. "Recritters!". Now if I were just down in the south, I could do the accent thing and go "y'all know how

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