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Journal timothy's Journal: Every app should copy Firefox's tab mgmt features! 6

Tabs are great. I've been happy with tabs since I first noticed them in Mozilla long ago (Yes, I realize Opera may have actually *had* them first, but I am too lazy to check), and am very pleased with the way many apps (terminals, word processors, file managers, etc) now use tabs now to separate documents or windows.

However, Mozilla is (as often) still ahead of the curve on this, partly because the plug-in approach lets people experiment and iterate (on a per-desktop basis) faster than any one bunch of developers could. Besides just *having* tabs, I can use plug-ins to alter how they act. So:

- I use one plug-in to change the color of the tabs (I think the contrast is too low as is, between the active and inactive tabs)
- I use another one to cause new tabs to open just to the right of the current tab, which I find much easier to follow when I have several unrelated tabs open already, and then want to open new ones from within any particular one of these. (So if I'm reading a story on Slashdot with several links, I can open each of these in a new tab, and they appear just to the right of the Slashdot story's tab, rather than on the far side of *all* the existing ones.)

Don't even need a plug in (though I think at one time you did) to re-order tabs within Firefox, by dragging. (This is one thing I've been pleased to find is now SOP in a lot of apps.)

Also, under History, there's a list of recently opened tags, which is handy. Some other apps (many, these days) include a "recent documents" option under the File menu, but being able to deal with tabs as tabs is nice.

When closing Firefox, a get one dialog that asks if I'd like to save the opened tabs as the startup group for the next time -- this is smart. I'd like this ability in every terminal, word processor, etc, too -- easy to click No if that's what I want, but a real time saver when I'm working on several related docs. Cuts down on the process-switching cost of remembering which three lists were being combined into one, etc.

There may be a good plug-in for this, but one thing I miss from Galeon is that tabs could (I forget if this was the default) could be abbreviated by leaving out vowels, etc. This was a nice meaning-preserving space-saver, and I'd like to do this with all my tab-friendly apps.

Another Galeon feature for which a plug-in may exist but I am just unaware: loading tabs were one color (red, I think) and switched to blue when the page in that tab was finished loading. When dealing w/ slow-loading sites, this made reading a lot more efficient.

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Every app should copy Firefox's tab mgmt features!

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  • Actually, I believe that tab coloring and "having tabs open to the right of the current tab" (don't know the official term for that) are part of IE8. Now, I'm not saying that IE8 is better. It isn't. I hope those features get integrated into Firefox soon.
    • by timothy ( 36799 ) Works for Slashdot

      Well, those are good features, and for the sake of all who are stuck using Windows (but why would they be stuck using IE? ;)), I'm glad to hear it. Sounds like (from other comment below), the open-to-right behavior will be standard behavior in FF, eventually. I've taken to calling it "tabs open relative," though that's awkward, just because that's the name of the extension I use to achieve it, and I have no better term.

      timothy

  • Tree Style Tab does everything that you are talking about (and better) except for tab coloring.

    https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Ffirefox%2Faddon%2F5890 [mozilla.org]

  • https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.mozilla.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D465673 [mozilla.org]
    tabs opened from links should appear next to the current tab (instead of at the end of the tabstrip)
    Summary: tabs opened from links should appear next to the current tab (instead of at t...
    Status: VERIFIED FIXED
    This is for trunk - which is currently ff 3.7 so maybe next year, unless you want to live on the edge

    Now there is some subsequent argument is about what should happen when you close a tab - where should you go - though the filed bug h

    • by timothy ( 36799 ) Works for Slashdot

      Glad to hear it! (But also glad that plug-ins have let me get that behavior in the now.)

      And obviously, when one tab closes, you should jump to the next tab to the right ;)

      (The one bug report I filed re: my favorite behavior -- had to do w/ tab groups *not* wiping out the current page when called from a bookmark -- led to such a long string of angry / acrimonious responses that I'd rather just let people sort it out until they come to my opinion ...)

      timothy

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