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Journal the_mad_poster's Journal: American Crybabies 28

So Choicepoint and Lexus Nexus gather your personal data, then thieves steal it and use it to steal your money. Good deal. That's this honest capitalist principle in action, folks.

The president is one of the most dishonest, disingenious, and belligerent ones we've had in quite some time. I'm still waiting on those WMDs that were supposedly threatening the possibility of a "mushroom cloud", the 9/11 Iraqi terrorists that seem to have evaporated, Osama Bin Laden's head, an explanation of how, exactly, adding more costs to teh social security system is going to fix the problem that is dwarfed by comparison to Medicare's fiasco, and the economy that "picked up" three years ago after "the shortest recession in history" to actually start picking up rather than just sort of stumbling along like a drunken sailor.

It's tax season again, and I"m reminded of how much I give and how little I get by the enormous potholes in the road. Here's my route to work:

Rt. 194, state road - I have to skip a good five hundred foot chunk of it or so because the edge of the road is so bad that it pulls my car hard toward the curb if I don't drive in the double yellow.

Golf Course Road - coming down over the blind hill I have to, again, drive in the center of the road for the same reason.

Rt. 15 - here's the thing, the road itself isn't that bad, but the traffic patterns are shit. I had to sit at three lights on that road this morning, then drive on the curb the last 1000 feet or so to my exit because it was all backed up.

Then it's five more red lights to my workplace, all the while dodging raised manhole covers and car-eating potholes.

Other than an imperialist chest-thumping in the middle east, which I don't support in the least, I'm not quite sure what, exactly, it is that I get from paying my taxes, other than poorer. And I love all these people who are like "but the rich pay soooo much of their taxes". No, actually, they don't. The richer you are, the more loopholes and deductions you get to exploit. If you take your time to exploit the tax code when you're rich, you can actually wind up paying less than people like me do.

Because that's how it works in America. The rich get richer and they do it by shaking down the poor. Reference: Wal Mart, which is currently trying to remake its well deserved image of black-hearted satanic destroyer into "not so bad, maybe eat a puppy sometimes" corporation.

I don't really get why. The congenitally brain-damaged inbreds I typically see shopping at Wal Mart when I'm forced to go there, generally by other people, probably don't have the cognitive wherewithall to understand the terribly complicated concept of "if you pay less money for what you buy, the employees get less money, and you help create a poorer class which causes stores like Wal Mart to lower prices further so that you can pay less money which....". I highly doubt their dimly-lit bulbs are bright enough for them to see the more complex impact that Wal Mart's sprawl and poor ethics has on the larger economy as a whole, or individual areas.

Moving on, I like car insurance, great concept. It's almost as if some thug one day decided "hey... you know... if I could get states to pass a law REQUIRING people to get mugged by me on a yearly basis, I could make a killing". I've used car insurance ONCE. One time it was useful to me. And it wasn't my insurance company that paid because I didn't cause the accident. However, even though I didn't cause the accident, if I switch companies, I get a worse premium for five years. Why? Because some stupid kid who was supposed to be in school and didn't stop at the end of a driveway clocked me? Great. Thanks capitalism. The insurance company mugs me for my wallet and they get laws requiring it to happen. I mug someone and I'll go to jail.

Then there's the fact that everybody except me is an idiot. What's the deal with that anyway? Like the idiot woman in the silver Accord this morning who decided to change lanes behind me inches from my bumper as I started to after waiting for a clearing and using my signal? Why isn't it legal to pull these people from their vehicles and beat them to a pulp on the curb, then throw the passengers from an overpass? I'd LOVE to see someone do something stupid like that and crash and be thrown through the windshield. You'll hear me on a 911 tape someday laughing my ass off as I phone it in.

And then there's the SUV people. I'm going to say it whether it offends you or not. Here goes. If you bought an SUV, and you:

a) Get less than 80 inches of snow per year / live in a remote location or
b) Aren't emergency personnel / someone who needs to be able to move 24/7/365
c) Don't FREQUENTLY haul more than four people

Then you are:

a) A helpless, crybaby moron who can't drive for shit or
b) A vacuous yuppy with no redeeming qualities trying to fit in based on the type of vehicle you drive
c) Too stupid to realize you could've bought a roomy, comfortable car for the same price.

I base this on the fact that:

a) I live in Central PA and missed exactly 0 days of work and 0 appointments due to snow this winter, driving a Mustang GT.
b) If you can call off, you have no reason to drive an SUV
c) Even if you fit the criteria above, you can just buy an AWD car and you'll do just as well.

Oh "wah wah" your persecuted. Yea? Too bad. Boo hoo for you. YOU chose to drive it, YOU chose to piss more competent people off, it's YOUR problem that you have to deal with them.

That's another thing. What's with this attitude whereby if you piss someone off because of something you did, it's wrong for people to be pissed off at you? You don't have the RIGHT to not be pissed off, so go sit on a flagpole and spin. YOU chose to buy the SUV that is tailgating me or blocking my view. YOU deal with the backlash. YOU chose to blow cigarette smoke at me, YOU deal with it when I push you off the sidewalk to get upwind.

If YOU are the fucking asshole and you cause OTHER people to be assholes as a result, it's YOUR FAULT. Shut your stupid yap and piss off. If you don't want people pissing on you, don't invite it. If you can't be a reasonable, considerate member of society, then you won't get treated like one, so go cry to someone else, I don't care. I'm not your mommy, and I'm not hear to croon to you when you do something stupid and get yelled at for it.

Bunch of fucking crybabies. "Oh boo hoooooo". the_mad_poster yelled at me wah wah. Grow a fucking spine and yell back if you think you can, otherwise, accept that you don't have a position other than "just do it my way because I say so" and piss off.

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American Crybabies

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  • ... we were all getting worried about you for a while ... thought maybe we'd have to take you behind the barn and do an "ole yeller".
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    • Maybe we should replace insurance (or make it replaceable) with guaranteed credit lines or something,

      Where do you guys live? You've never heard of "posting a bond"? The problem with posting a bond is most of us aren't that rich. If your state requires a minimum $100,000 liability insurance, then you buy insurance like the rest of us, unless you happen to have $100,000 just laying around with nothing better to do than gather interest for the state on the off chance that you have an accident. But, no, you d

  • If you drive a SUV because you are a lUser, then the solution is simple: you must serve a few tours in either Afghanistan, Iraq, or (coming soon) Iran/North Korea.

    We're talking REAL service as a 11Boo [goarmy.com], not no candy-ass 42Loo [goarmy.com].

  • Is eating puppies a bad thing? Personally I try to eat at least 1 puppy a day.
  • by Dogers ( 446369 )
    You put into words what I often feel :)

    When I was little, I thought America was great and wanted to live there! Now I don't. I've realised all countries and businesses are crap..
  • So Choicepoint and Lexus Nexus gather your personal data, then thieves steal it and use it to steal your money. Good deal. That's this honest capitalist principle in action, folks.

    What exactly are you ranting against? The thieves? The collection of personal data? Capitalism in general?

    Yes, in a pure form of capitalism, Choicepoint and Lexus Nexus were within their rights to collect information, but I doubt anyone would argue that what the thieves did would be legal or ethical. What does that have

    • Ethics and capitalism are two distinct concepts and ne'er the twain shall meet. In pure capitalist society, stealing data would be perfectly legit, and it would be the responsibility of the lossees to seek some sort of retribution. The entire concept of "business ethics" is a ludicrous way of shielding certain unethical practices - like collecting and poorly securing people's important personal information - and villianizing others - like collecting personal information from poorly secured systems.

      In fact,
      • Ethics and capitalism are two distinct concepts and ne'er the twain shall meet. In pure capitalist society, stealing data would be perfectly legit, and it would be the responsibility of the lossees to seek some sort of retribution.

        I completely disagree. I have yet to see anyone pushing a form of capitalism that simply does away with all laws regarding business. You can't have capitalism with some sort of property protection laws that make it illegal to steal other people's property. Without the conc

        • Nobody said that and it's not the point anyway.

          Do you know why many insurance companies commonly deny a claim when it's first filed no matter how legitimate it is? It's because they know most people can't afford to sue them. In a capitalist society without all that horrible regulation that Bush and company hate so much, that would be your only recourse. The court would have to weigh on the merits of your claim and the wording of your contract. "Business ethics" just means "somebody made us stop hurting peo
          • Nobody said that and it's not the point anyway.

            Huh? Nobody said what? I said:

            I completely disagree. I have yet to see anyone pushing a form of capitalism that simply does away with all laws regarding business. You can't have capitalism with some sort of property protection laws that make it illegal to steal other people's property. Without the concept of property codified in law, you can't have capitalism.

            This was in response to your statement:

            In pure capitalist society, stealing data would

            • They weren't really the example of demonization, though. That was just an example of how unethical people - e.g. Choicepoint and Lexus Nexus - can make money through unethical means - e.g. collecting and selling personal details on people. When you start to introduce limited regulation in this country, it's generally well-meaning. However, there are people like George Bush who seem to believe that any governmental controls are just unncessary meddling and that capitalism ought to be allowed to rage forward
          • Do you know why many insurance companies commonly deny a claim when it's first filed no matter how legitimate it is?

            At the doctor's office where I work, it runs between 2 and 10 percent. Fortunately, with electronic claims, we can just give them a quick glance, then dump them back in Aetna's lap immediately.
        • I have yet to see anyone pushing a form of capitalism that simply does away with all laws regarding business.

          Perhaps not "completely", but there is such a thing called "deregulation" that is much ballyhooed.

          Tell me, who "on the right" is saying that it should be perfectly legal to steal data?

          No one is saying it in so many words, but there is certainly plenty of effort in making sure it's open season on your personal information, both in commerce and in politics (sadly, on both sides of the aisle). If

          • Perhaps not "completely", but there is such a thing called "deregulation" that is much ballyhooed.

            Of course, and we can debate specific deregulation proposals. I just didn't understand the assertion that there were people out there (on the "right" of course) that think breaking into a companies datastore and stealing information should be legal because anything else would be "socialism". Again, I may have misunderstood the original intent of the comment.

            I personally think privacy laws should be st

            • I could choose not to ever have a credit card, but it becomes unbearingly difficult to operate in our society without one. (Hotel reservations, car rentals, etc.)

              It's also dificult to back into the country without one. Customs always makes it a point to harass me over the matter. Right up to 1 WEEK(!) before 9/11. And, if you stayed with friends instead of a hotel, it's strip search city. It was for a woman coming back from Jamaica about two weeks before my latest incident. That one made the papers. Goes
  • "I'm still waiting on those WMDs"

    I'm waiting on the economic crash that's coming down the pike much sooner than I'd like. Here's how it's gonna go: gas prices go higher and higher. People are already feeling their quality of life [cnn.com] slip away as they're slowly becoming less and less able to do anything requiring non-essential driving. My family is sqaurely in this category. Eventually, and if prices keep going up at the rate they have been, it will reach the point where people literally won't be able to a
    • Here's a similar article [gladwell.com] that appears to use some of the same research. It also goes into a collision avoidance comparison between a Porsche Boxster and a Chevy Trailblazer, dispelling the myth that SUVs are "safer" (you're better off avoiding an accident completely, which you are much less likely to do in a big and cumbersome SUV).

  • Outrage is the normal response to outrageous behavior.
  • Save cash and parking space. Subaru Legacy/Outback isn't a bad choice.
  • Which group am I in?

    I want to eventually get one of these. [irollmotors.com]

    They have the dimensions normally associated with SUV. But were built long before SUV's bacame a trendy vehicle. Technically it's a radio car, but most people would probably classify it as an SUV.

    I don't fit any of your paramters for needing an SUV. Although I would think that living in a remote location would validate SUV ownership. And option A seems to say if you do live in a remote location you're a crybaby/moron/yuppy/idiot. Is that a readi
    • And I cannot belong to the third group of people because I have yet to find a standard sized automobile that was sufficiently comfortable to warrant purchasing it. Most cars do not have sufficient head room for me.

      Are you a 7 foot tall yeti or something? Haven't you ever tried adjusting seat height? Consider this -- I know a 6'8" guy who fits comfortably into a Boxster (a car that could barely fit a 5'5" girl if you don't take the time to adjust the seat properly). Are you saying you can't fit into a

      • I had never thought of the chair/seat posture comparison as a reason for why I've never found a suitably comfortable car. (Although I haven't exstensively compared vehicles since I've no need for a new one) I find the more upright chair-like position to be far more comfortable while driving than the more reclined seat-like position you prefer. That may contribute to the misdiagnosis of head-room being the issue.

        Thank you for your insight.
    • As that is a used vehicle, I exempt you from my wrath. Having GM/Ford/MB/anyone build a new vehicle is more detrimental to the environment plunking along in a fifty year old machine.
  • If you take your time to exploit the tax code when you're rich, you can actually wind up paying less than people like me do.

    More to the point, if you're rich, you can afford to pay someone else to pour deeply over the tax code, scouring it for your loopholes.

  • I would toss in a few more exceptions for people who need towing power for whatever reason. Long gone are the days when the family car was capable of towing anything bigger than an inflatable rowboat or kayak.

    That said, I question the value of buying a new one instead of buying some ancient one that is used only for the occasion.
    • I also make an exception for people who might only have a few people in the car, but who do regularly haul around a lot of stuff. For example, I know a few people who go camping a lot and who are able to fill a lot of an SUV with stuff for camping.

      When someone buys a large vehicle who will actually use that extra volume or engine power, it makes sense. When people buy it because of a mistaken notion that they will be safer or to keep up with the Joneses, it is just sad.

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