You seem to be misunderstanding me or I am misunderstanding you. And yes, I agree handles can be deceptive. Sorry, I didn't mean a personal attack. I, too, am all for the Declaration of Independence, the security of our borders, and a stable business environment. Maybe we agree on the ideas but not on how to implement them best. Oh well.

I said more freedom, not ultimate freedom. I said fewer programs, not no programs. It's it odd that the first thing that people point at is "no policemen no firefighters oh no chaos!!!!" No, not really. There's a lot you could reduce (not even CUT, but just REDUCE) before you'd be left with "oh man, the only thing left to cut is policemen and firefighters." How about we put those near the bottom of the list to cut/reduce? People and companies have to make budget cuts/reductions, how about the government tried it too? If you haven't noticed, the national debt is kinda high. And yes, it's Bush's fault too. But not solely Bush's fault. It's pretty much everyone's fault.

I agree with you. If you notice, the post I was replying to was talking about jobs, not borders. I completely agree that national defense, which would include protecting the borders, is the government's job. I guess the fact that the guy's name is "Marxist Hacker" might be a clue to his position on things.

It's not the government's job to create jobs, if that's what you're saying. What we need is fewer "programs" (decrease public sector) and more freedom (increase private sector). So yes, the government has failed, but I'm not sure if it's failed the way you're implying.

I can't. My spam-blocker is blocking it.

Just kidding...

Except that some of us "never" "boot." I S3 all the time. And you know if MS made updates mandatory w/o user intervention or any option of NOT updating, ./ would go bananas.