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Journal pudge's Journal: Civil Liberties to be Lost 5

Yesterday I celebrated "Civil Liberties Day." I consider this a preferable alternative to a day devoted to Martin Luther King, Jr.

One of the side effects of this change is that while many people note that the first black President is inaugurated the day after MLK Jr. Day, I get to note that one of the most anti-liberty Presidents is inaugurated the day after Civil Liberties Day.

It's well-understood that Obama is at least as hostile to our Tenth Amendment liberties as any President before him. He also has declared himself, time and again, completely hostile toward the Second Amendment (despite his dishonest rhetorical claims that he believes gun ownership is an "individual right").

So, now that we are about to have this new President, I want to start keeping a list of liberties he or his Congress is trying to take from us. Please restrict your answers to those that Obama or Biden or a prominent member of Congress has specifically advocated, within the last year, such as the Obama-Biden promise to bring back the Assault Weapons Ban. And provide a reliable source.

I think this will be quite instructive, and more than a bit depressing. I can only hope Obama doesn't fulfill many of his promises, for whatever reason. He's already signalled he is backing off many of his radical proposals, such as to increase taxes and immediately close Gitmo and pull out of Iraq. So, we don't know what will happen. We only can know what has been proposed and what has happened.

Cross-posted on <pudge/*>.

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Civil Liberties to be Lost

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  • You live in fear. The tenor and DNA of your writing is from a position of fear. I choose not to live in this respect. I am a Republican with very strong views on many points, but I don't manifest, nor am I burdened by fear.

    Regards

    • by pudge ( 3605 ) * Works for Slashdot

      You live in fear. The tenor and DNA of your writing is from a position of fear.

      False. I note for the record that you provided not a single scrap of evidence for your position. And no, there is no fear in this journal entry, at all. Facts are not about fear, and I am writing only about facts.

  • Is O)bama planning to make a superPATRIOT or super FISA? Our liberties have been slipping away all my life. If they catch you with a joint in your car, they can take your car, even if it isn't your joint and you don't know how it got there. So much for the 5th amendment. Oh, they'll find that joint because somehow your car is neither a place nor an effect, your 4th amendment right is meaningless as well.

    We don't have any rights left, how can Obama take what previous Presidents and Senators and Representativ

    • by pudge ( 3605 ) * Works for Slashdot

      Whatever. I am just keeping a list of actual liberties lost. This is not about rhetoric or your anger at other past administrations. If Obama plans to bring back the AWB, that is a loss of liberty, by definition. Anyone's feelings about that and its context are entirely beside the point.

  • ...to compare such a list to the list of liberties lost due to GW and the GOP congresspeeps of his time. Not that one should waste time trying to correct every stupid thing a Liberal believes, but many think GW was "worst evar" for encroaching on our civil rights and that Obama is for freedom and liberalness (lower case ell there), and the juxtaposition would be revealing, however it turns out.

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