The research was just published, and you expect retail products to be out right away, cutting prices of everything to a few percent of what it used to be?

And that's fine. Not everyone wants to drive a Hyundai Accent or a Tesla.

They're very good at running many common desktop applications while not sending all of your data to a foreign company that's subject to US laws on handing over data to authorities.

I don't think anyone ever suggested you shouldn't. If you don't want an apple, nobody actually cares. It's the "Herpderp, apple is more expensive than diamonds!" crap people object to.

Nobody ever claimed a macbook was a workstation killer (except maybe in apple's fever dreams). Also, nobody ever claimed that macs make sense for every job.

If you want a large mobile workstation, that's fine. Buy the one that makes sense for your workload. Most people don't want one, not even if it had an apple on the lid.

Sure, a lot of things are easier and cheaper if you have more than twice the volume (and almost twice the weight) to work with.

I'm basing my assessment on the fact that they use really expensive components (not every single chip, but the most important parts like CPUs). I'm not saying they make sense for everyone, but if you want that combination of parts, it's going to cost you about what apple charges, regardless of the badge on the machine.

Of course you shouldn't spend $2k on the 5k monitor if you don't care about it, but a lot of people do. I hate the 27" 4k monitor i used on my hackintosh and would happily trade it for a 1440p because the DPI is completely wrong. At 1:1 everything is tiny, at 2:1 everything is too big and anything in between just looks like complete ass. A 5k monitor would solve it nicely, giving a perfect 2:1 scaling for the UI but still giving me the high DPI image quality for content.

I did it using the "Install macOS Mojave" app off the app store, yes.

I upgraded my hackintosh to Mojave with the OS's own installer, having just updated the clover bootloader before and reinstalling my audio driver fix afterwards. It's quite a bit short of "complete reinstall".

I don't care for any of the current mac products, but the "OMG expensive!" argument is usually bullshit. You're paying for a high end machine with high end parts and the macs are usually right around the price of an equal machine. Only the upgrades (more SSD or RAM) are usually actually expensive. Of course, not everyone needs Xeons and FirePro GPUs, which is what drives up the price. This is just the market that Apple is targeting, so if you don't need it, don't buy it.

"But i can build a faster machine for $500 less!" usually ends up with someone building an AMD Bulldozer box and showing that they've now built a cheaper macbook... or they build a machine $1000 cheaper than the iMac, forgetting that the iMac comes with a $2000 monitor. Most of the time, they just assume that the Xeon in the pro systems is pointless and replace it with a regular desktop CPU.

The problem with the mac lineup right now is that everything is either outdated or they've broken fundamental things like the keyboard or they've made ridiculous decisions like sacrifice a regular SSD and socketed RAM for that millimeter they've shaved off the thickness, but that nobody actually gives a shit about.

Apple: If you see this (fat chance), build me a Macbook SE. Give me the 2011 Macbook Pro case and keyboard, modern internals and ports (keep the USB-A and SD slot, but add thunderbolt), swap the 2.5" drive for a M.2 (or two) socket, keep the socketed memory and stick a retina display on top. There should be plenty of space for a gigantic battery to give it days of work time on a single charge. I *promise* this thing would sell millions.

Well, there's only 9000 of us. We can't be everywhere all the time.

Ferrariyal.

It seems Slashdot has slashdotted their own video host :)

When will fusion power my house?

.. or they'll switch to stuff with a really free (as in speech) license like the BSD, where people can do whatever they want without fear of litigation from bearded penguins.