Comment Re:Good (Score 1) 34
The business case for LLMs is a bit broader than that. They don't need to replace that many workers if they make enough workers more efficient or more reliable (such as simply having LLMs look over drafts).
As things stand 'reliable' is not a word you associate with AI.
That's why it is using it to look over drafts. You take the AI output and then go through its suggested edits or concerns. Essentially it functions as a very fast, half-way decent proof-reader. For example, my spouse looks over a lot of drafts of things I write, but if I give her a 15 page paper, there's good work on the first 8 or 9 pages, probably a joke on page 10 about my notation, one or two comments on the next page, and then a few comments on the bibliography. Claude is not as good a proof-reader as she is, but Claude doesn't poop out after a few pages. And Claude is much faster. So reliability goes up without having to rely on the AI being reliable itself.
And sometimes it catches subtle things. For example, not too long ago, I gave a paper draft to Claude, and it noted in the bibliography that the journal volume number seemed unlikely given the year; it turned out that the volume was correct, but I had actually written the wrong journal down in the entry. Another time, Claude noted that one entry in a bibliography was from a "borderline predatory" (its words but it wasn't wrong) journal, and since I wasn't using it for much other than as part of a list of "hey, here's prior literature" and the paper in question didn't prove anything interesting, I discussed just dropping it from the citation list. Claude then without me asking, pulled up preprint I already had on the arXiv and noted it saw that paper cited there and suggested we remove the paper there also. I didn't do so, but this is the sort of thing that it can suggest. One still has the human make the decisions, but the input itself is useful. And for the most part, verification by a human for most issues is much faster than finding the issues one self.
That's what I was talking about. You need smaller models specialised for the specific scientific/engineering problem they'll be used for.
Not really. It turns out that specialized models do not do as well as large general models. This is essentially a variant of the Bitter Lesson https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBitter_lesson. In this case, there's other reason for it also. There's a lot of reasoning science and math discussions in non-specialized training data. For example, one paper I wrote with two coauthors started as a Reddit discussion. But there's also just a lot of subtle interaction that specialized models don't necessarily get. Math is easier to understand if one has a good command of physics. Engineering is better if one has math and physics. Etc. And sometimes a technique gets directly pulled over. For example, in the large OpenAI paper drop, one of the graph theory problems relied on a trick involving a weighing on the graph that involved complex numbers designed to cancel, where the trick came from a physics context that did something similar. A math specialized model would have been unlikely to find and import that trick.
The distinction between a commodity or tech bubble is interesting but in both cases you can have a tech or commodity which is definitely useful but whose usefulness is being overestimated, and tech or commodity which has very limited utility and whose current value is mostly based on hype. Bitcoin and especially NFT are good examples of the latter type.
Right, and the line here isn't clear. One take on NFTs is that they are nominally a tech but functioned purely as a commodity bubble. Or that NFT is a tech but it was used to make commodities which had a bubble. And the line between tech and commodity was blurry historically. When Spain entered the "platinum age," that was based in part on how to make nearly pure platinum was a tech, but the platinum itself was a commodity.
How much computing you get out of a token is surely a purely business decision by the company selling the tokens. Theoretically there's nothing stopping them from making a single token give you unlimited lifetime access to their AI - probably wouldn't make much business sense but I don't know how much sense any of this is making atm. Tokens giving you more bang for the buck may mean the tech is improving or there's more infrastructure or it may just be due to a business strategy this particular company is pursuing.
Since per a token output seems to be getting better also for open-weight models, this suggests this is more than just a business decision. And some of it is specific changes; we know that larger models with more training data for example will often produce higher quality output. But also aside from scaling, there have been architectural improvements. For example, one insight that occurred was that having lower precision weights which allowed more weights was often a positive tradeoff. That lead to changes in both the software and hardware ends, as the GPUs were modified as a result. Similar, there's been changes in what functions are used for the feedforward function.
Comment Re: Yes (Score 2) 194
Comment Re:Good (Score 1) 34
Comment Re:Good (Score 5, Interesting) 34
Sooner or later people are going to realize that AI is just another name for Linear Algebra and all this will come crashing down
There are at least four problems with this. First, linear algebra is from a math standpoint insanely powerful. For example, all of representation theory https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRepresentation_theory is using linear algebra to understand groups. Much of the study of modular forms https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FModular_form involves understanding the behavior of modular forms over SL_2(Z) which has heavy linear algebra elements to it. People who see linear algebra as somehow a weak thing are often people who took a single semester of it and didn't do much else with it.
Second, the idea that these AI systems are just linear algebra isn't accurate anyhow. While there's a lot of linear involved, a major part of how transforms like LLMs work is the intervening non-linear layers, which use ReLu https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRectified_linear_unit, Softplus, or a similar function. So, summarizing this as just linear algebra isn't accurate. It is linear algebra with some spice.
Third, even if this were somehow just linear algebra, that shouldn't therefore be a reason to think that there's any limits to what is going on. At the end of the day, the empirical success is what matter, and systems which can do things like prove the quasi-Riemann Hypothesis or solve other major math problems are pretty impressive regardless of what is under the hood. So, if one does think this is just linear algebra, that's not a reason to dismiss the systems but a reason to increase your estimate of what can be done with mere linear algebra.
Fourth, slowing down connections like this may make crashes *less likely.* In particular, the main way we could have a serious bubble here is over-investment. Delays including power grid delays force bottlenecks on the investment level, and make that sort of problem less likely.
We may be in a bubble here. Certainly some elements look very bubble-like. In the late 1990s, during the dot-com boom, one had people making perfectly normal businesses but just tacking on "on the internet" to it and it would get millions of dollars of funding automatically. See for example pets.com . And we're seeing some of that now; we've had a whole bunch of businesses see their stock price shootup just because they mention AI. So we may be in a bubble, and it may crash now, or might crash never or decades from now. (Arguably the US had an 80 year automobile bubble that didn't crash until the late 2000s which then forced the auto bailout.) But the other thing to keep in mind is that a crash does not mean the tech goes away. In 1873, the US had a devastating collapse of the railroad bubble, and yet railroads continued to grow, with the amount of track not peaking until around 1910 https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftransportgeography.org%2Fcontents%2Fchapter5%2Frail-transportation-pipelines%2Frail-track-mileage-united-states%2F. Similarly, although the internet bubble burst, by 2015, one had more internet use than even the most internet hyping person in 1998 would have likely dreamed of. A bubble bursting does not mean the tech itself goes away.
Comment Re:For www facing websites (Score 1) 77
Comment Hard to be surprised. (Score 2) 77
It's overwhelmingly the case that vendors hate returns and chargebacks; and generally try to avoid situations where those are more likely to arise. An error-prone mechanism that acts "on behalf of" in a way where it does have the user's credentials and payment information but may well not have their authorization in a legally binding way when it decides to order 100 of something seems like the last thing they would want to deal with.
Maybe someone will manage to ram through glorious-agentic-future and it will become de-facto mandatory to cater to people who have abandoned ordering from websites in favor of prompting bots to order for them; but until that happens it's hard to see merchants reputable enough that they are interested in keeping their ratings and relationships with payment processors in good order wanting to touch the situation. Now, scammers who already hop between expendable presences as soon as dissatisfaction catches up with them; those are probably quite interested in the future of prompt injection based advertising.
Comment Re: Incredible but doubtful about priorities. (Score 1) 223
Comment Re:"super intelligence technology" (Score 2) 108
Trump seems to have no interest in avoiding autocratic cliches and saying things that sound vaguely lifted from The Godfather; so he actively leans into it. Presumably a handy loyalty test. Complying with the style guide is not an assurance that someone will just eat perjury charges covering for him or whatever; but if you want to find people whose dysfunctional relationship with authority dominates their personality demanding that they comply with laughably stupid things and having them fall into line isn't a bad start for something that is easy, cheap, and legal.
Comment Am I missing something? (Score 4, Interesting) 236
Comment Re:I smell plateau (Score 4, Informative) 58
In my experience the new Frontier LLM models are in no way as much of an advance over their predecessors as their predecessors were.
I don't know what field you are in, but in my area, math, this is wildly not the case. They are much, much better. And the next line of the public frontier models are obviously even better judging from everything that we've seen drop from OpenAI and Anthropic. The large OpenAI release would by itself would have four or five results which would arguably be a Fields Medal if a human had done that, and quasi-RH which would if a human did it be almost definitely a Fields Medal result.
Comment Very credible. (Score 4, Insightful) 58
Comment Well, that's just terrible. (Score 2) 59
It often gets proposed for the purpose; either by people who overestimate it or with that little sneer at 'paperwork' that assumes that plausible nonsense is fine because whatever the 'paperwork' is it must be a fake problem imposed for stupid reasons, so it really deserves syntactically plausible nonsense; but is an exquisitely bad solution. Not only does it replace actual data with plausible nonsense in places where, surprise surprise, someone was actually maintaining records because something matters; but lowering the cost of bullshitting a report to close to zero removes one of the main incentives for process improvement.
If bad process hurts you can only really maintain it through fairly disciplined commitment to an oppressive, unreasonable, management approach that rejects process improvements out of hand; or the cultivation of a profoundly dysfunctional organizational culture where as many FTEs as possible owe their paychecks to nonsense requirements and can be recruited to defend them.
If bad process just means spinning up the nonsense printer with a cynical smirk; why bother even looking at what the process was intended to do; or getting your hands dirty with what records are important and what records are just historical accretion? Just prompt for a prompt that tells the bot to do them all, and some extras if you want to look diligent, and call it good.
Comment Re:mostly mash-ups of existing techniques (Score 2) 136
While this may be hard to understand for non-mathematicians, the data-theft angle could not be any more obvious.
On the contrary. The people trying to make this sort of claim at this point are overwhelmingly the non-mathematicians. To the mathematicians the number of new proofs of genuinely difficult problems and the use of novel techniques like those in the Unique Games Conjecture proof and Hadwiger-Nelson make us generally have the exact position you are claiming is something that is believed by the non-mathematicians. Even the most anti-AI mathematicians like Tasmin Chu agree that the AIs are producing novel, major work at this point.