I'd say yes - in my experience folks don't enter the infosec industry trained as a security engineer. Or at least up to this point, that's rare. Instead, most security teams (including the one I work on) are built with sysadmins, network engineers, code monkeys, web developers and dba's (and a few blackhat script kiddies) that have a particular passion for defending data, networks and endpoints.
Unfortunately, with this decade's increased focus on security I fear we'll soon have a glut of paper CISSP's that only got into infosec because "those guys make a lot of money", not because they were any good at it, or were particularly passionate about the subject. CISSP is quickly becoming this generation's MSCE.
But I digress. For those of us hiring security professionals, we are always struggling to find quality folks with decent experience and passion. We end up recruiting at the local 2600 meeting as much as colleges or Careerbuilder.
Good gravy, you've taken this very personally. Please reread my comment. If I wasn't clear - it doesn't seem to me that Apple cares very much that their Windows software works all that well. Itunes (now in v7), my example, is non-beta, but is still prone to excessive memory usage, locking up, etc. and has been that way for nearly all Windows releases. It doesn't speak well of them that they cannot manage to get bugs ironed out of their non-beta software, and my hope was that they would put a little more effort into ironing out the bugs in Bootcamp. It's taken them nearly a year to get it to (IMHO) a barely functional state. They're slow to make it work how it should.Okay, then I won't charge you for the Bootcamp Beta. Though if you want to post your credit card number, expiration date, name, and security code, I'll gladly take them. Also, if you only run software that works 100% do you mostly run software written in HAL/S?
Funny - Microsoft doesn't seem to have much problem with that. Office for the Mac works beautifully. Strange, isn't it? But it's likely Apple will share your arrogant attitude, and ignore their customer's requests, and that's my fear. Why bother making a quality product? We'll shortchange them, give them poorly-written code, force them to switch back to OSX out of frustration.Apple doesn't have a lot of experience coding for their competitors' platforms. Strange, isn't it.
My personal experience - every Wintel PC I've bought or built in the last ten years has had working device drivers out of the box, for everything that was onboard. Maybe you haven't used a Windows box since installing QEMM was necessary. Things have changed.Okay, and every company that sells PCs with Windows preloaded ships drivers that work well? If you're this up in arms about Apple shipping beta Windows XP drivers that don't work as well as their OS X counterparts, what do you think about the actual final version drivers that are shipped preloaded on Windows based computers?
Took a few tries to get the stains out, yeahAnd I bet it splashed juice everywhere.
Not sure if you're a dyed-in-the-wool Apple fanboy - your attitude would seem to indicate that - but yes, it's sad that an observation like that would be necessary. Simply a statement about Apple's poor effort in making Bootcamp appear to us, the consumer, as a product worth buying (in the future, if necessary). I hope they work a bit harder at it. Sorry to have gotten your panties in a bunch.So, in order to sell a piece of software, it should have less bugs than the free beta version. That should be modded: (+liek infinity, Insightful)
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