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Journal jawtheshark's Journal: Diesel?!? 8

Just ten minutes ago, I was at our local gas station to fetch some "gas" for me, also known as ethanol. Anyway, that's not the point. When driving away, I noticed the prices of the different fuel types:

  • Diesel Excellium: 1.233€/litre
  • Premium Unleaded (98oct RON): 1.202€/litre

This might not strike you, but that special "Excellium" Diesel is actually more expensive than the stuff I put in my Audi TT! WTF? Diesel is supposed to be less expensive than even regular unleaded! Sure, you still get normal Diesel at 1.133€/litre and Regular Unleaded (95oct RON) is at 1.188€/litre... However, anyone getting suckered into buying that Excellium thing is in for a surprise!

Heck! I absolutely have to check what my wife puts in her (Diesel) car...

Marketing... *sigh*

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Diesel?!?

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  • Diesel fuel has more energy [charlotte.nc.us] than the same amount of gasoline. Also, when demand for #1 heating oil rises (same stuff as diesel), the price of diesel goes up, since there's only a limited range of outputs for a barrel of oil.

    • when demand for #1 heating oil rises (same stuff as diesel), the price of diesel goes up,

      True, true, even though in my country the prices are fixed (by the government). Thus the heating oil price will have an influence, but not in the same way as in a true free market. Anyway, the main point of my journal was that the prices of the two different Diesels (the normal one and the "excellium" one) were worlds apart. I just compared to the premium gas one, because that's traditionally the most expensive comb

  • The 'premium' brands with their premium prices are a waste of money. Modern cars with a european CoC are being tested with normal diesel and 95 octane gas, respectively. Power, fuel economy and emissions are tested with these standardized fuels. There's some cars that have the compression to actually take some advantage out of 98 or 100 octane gas, those are mostly turbocharged sports cars. Subaru's STI with water injection comes to mind. On the diesel side: it's all marketing. Apart from that, as stated a
    • On the diesel side: it's all marketing.

      Pretty much the whole point of my journal... I was simply shocked. I'm sure their tactics work, btw....

      Were we to honestly work on taxing proportionally to pollution, diesel fuel would be about 15% more expensive.

      And the pullution "tax" would be paid at the pump and not yearly based on CO2 emissions of your car... Even if you have a Hummer H2 (Blech!), but only drive to church and back every week, you're a much less of a polluter than than the Smart owner that dr

  • by Tet ( 2721 )
    FWIW, regular diesel has been more expensive than normal petrol over here for a couple of years now. As for the premium branded fuels, I couldn't say. The high octane petrol doesn't give you enough extra to justify the price difference over normal fuel. I've no idea about the premium diesel, but it wouldn't surprise me to see it being ridiculously expensive over here too...
    • regular diesel has been more expensive than normal petrol over here for a couple of years now.

      Yup, I knew about that. In the UK, it must simply be taxed differently. A very long time ago, I went with two friends to Scotland. Back then it was already the case, and that was when I still drove my Audi 80, so over 8 years ago.

      However, it's an exception in Europe [www.acl.lu].

  • * Diesel Excellium: 1.233/litre
    * Premium Unleaded (98oct RON): 1.202/litre

    Yeah, you know what? "Normal" Diesel costs EUR 1.31/l here, while your 98 octane stuff costs around EUR 1.50. So you can imagine that only with *a lot* of self-control, I resisted to simply posting an all-caps FUCK YOU.

    I still remember paying EUR 0.50 per liter for 95 octane gasoline, and it's not been ages, it's only ten years. In the mean time, we've already been to 1.70, and hover around 1.50 for 98 octane for around two years now.

    1.20 for Premium Unleaded?

    FUCK YOU.

    There you have it. That's what you get

    • Yeah, well... FUCK YOU TOO... You guys clog up our gas stations every damned weekend. ;-) You know it sucks donkeys balls that when I have to full up my car on a Sunday, I have to wait for two hours in a queue.

      I honestly can tell you that I'd rather have a harmonized price in Europe and be done with it. I fucking hate it when people think that we live in a "tax paradise" and "everything is cheaper". I do pay taxes and everything is more expensive except gas, alcohol and tobacco. It's the wholly uninfo

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