That may explain it. I have a Qrevo S, which is from 2024, while yours is from 2022. The only thing that it ever gets stuck at is one spot where, from under the couch, it can see out the ground-level window, and get stuck between the couch and window ledge (not actually stuck, just confused), because the LiDAR sees out the window. And I fixed that just by setting a small exclusion zone there. It never "gets lost" - maybe your house has some vast open spaces that it can't handle? But the LiDAR seems to see pretty far. The only other issues I've had are things like where I'll have a loose cord on the floor or some large piece of debris or whatnot, and even then, it's usually good at not getting stock on them. I'm also impressed with how well it deals with doors vs. a Roomba - my Roomba used to always get itself locked in rooms by accidentally closing doors after it entered, while the Roborock really tries to avoid ever touching them.

The Qrevo S has actually rotating mops, and they do a superb job with the floor. Spotless. My robot has the hardest mopping job in the world, too - it has to clean under my parrot's cage, and he poops off the edge onto a plastic mat under it ;)

I've never had to contact support - hopefully I don't need to :)

Disappointed there is no funny here. At least someone could have posted a link to their favorite video of a cat riding a Roomba. Or some story about the funniest thing their Roomba has eaten? Or maybe an AI joke about Grok hacking into and taking over all of the Internet-connected robot vacuum cleaners?

Basically expressing my concurrence, though I think the full story is more complicated than that. Not just the house brands, but the manipulation of the secret ranking algorithms to put the most profitable (for Amazon) products at the top.

For example, why would Amazon care if some company sells you (via Amazon) a huge piece of shite as long as it produces the highest payback for Amazon? In the case of house brands there is actually some reputational risk if they cut the corners on quality too deeply, whereas they can let some other company do the same thing, temporarily boost Amazon's profits, and then Amazon just drops that company after Amazon has taken the profits...

Even better (or worse), Amazon will always claim to offer the best value. You were just too lazy to scroll down far enough to find it and too stupid to recognize it when you finally got to it.

But my bile against Amazon goes way back. My second and final Amazon purchase was decades ago. I didn't yet have the idea of "corporate cancer", but I could see what Amazon was doing with my personal data and it was clearly wrong. Nothing I've learned since then has improved my opinion of the company.

Story deserved more funny, but I've got nothing. However you reminded me of my latest encounter with the Gemini of the google. I drove it into an apparently infinite apology loop and it refused to return to the original question of my research. (Took the same topic to DeepSeek and got a pretty good answer that might even turn out to be correct. I'm still studying the question.)

Strong concurrence and largely describes my thoughts regard Musk. Should be modded up, but apparently I'm never going to receive another mod point to bestow.

But I think humanity is in a death spiral now, thus resolving the Fermi Paradox. Too many crucial decisions made by greedy people for stupid and shortsighted reasons.

Insofar as America has influence on the flushing of humanity, the current interesting book is Turning Back the Clock by the late, great Umberto Eco. Written before the YOB turned to politics, but eerie and I didn't realize the degree to which the YOB's playbook replicates Berlusconi's style from not so long ago. To be more precise, I think the YOB deserves no credit, but the puppeteer's pulling the YOB's strings studied Berlusconi's methods. Remember how they used to call the American states the laboratories of democracy? Now I think Italy might be the leading laboratory for the destruction of democracy... If you count the Roman Empire before Mussolini, then maybe we can even say "Third time's the charm!"

although map editing sucks and it often gets lost and can't properly reset its position. It needs to be rescued pretty often which is a major fail.

That's very distinctly not my experience. What version do you have?

A real vacuum cleaner just about maxes out a standard residential 120v 15a circuit, as anyone who remembers the incandescent bulb era can attest to. A circuit with a few lamps shared with a vacuum cleaner could easily end with you flipping a breaker or replacing a blown fuse.

When you look at the absolutely tiny lithium ion pack these robo-vacs come with, ...

Sitting on my kitchen table right now is a drone pack. It's 57,5Wh, smaller the batteries of most modern Roombas. It's 50C - thus it can output up to 2,9kW. And there's even higher packs available than that. Lithium ion cells can handle some truly high power outputs. It's *energy*, not *power*, that is their limitation. Run a pack at 50C and it'll be empty in a bit over a minute. That said, on hard floor surfaces there is absolutely no reason why you should be drawing more than 300-400W or so, and you can get by with well less than that. High powers are for like shag carpeting and the like. Also, the head matters more than the power (though of course contribute) - for a hard floor, for example, a fluffy roller head is ideal.

Pet hair has never been an issue for me with robots. My long hair always is. It's way longer than any pet's.

Yeah, my Roborock has rotating mops, and I can say with 100% certainty, I haven't lived in a cleaner house since I moved out of my OCD mother's place as a teen. You could eat off that floor.

Facts. I used to have a Roomba for years, but as I live in Europe, it was getting increasingly hard to deal with modern features (like the self-emptying base which needs 120V power). I reluctantly switched to a Roborock when my power converter died, and just, wow, they're light years ahead of iRobot. I think iRobot has been coasting on its name for a while now.

Your use of the Subject as part of the possible joke confused me. Godwin is about my age, so Section 230 couldn't be that old...

Having said that, I agree that naive ageism was a weak FP, even if the joke had worked. But seems too much trouble to search the discussion in hopes of something worth reading on Slashdot these years...

Okay, so you want to bring AI into it. Let's see if AI can add some Funny to a discussion that is so far lacking Funny... Oh oh. Already stalled out. I don't know if any of the generative AIs are any good at humor.

Anyone have a recommendation on which AI's electricity I should waste in an attempt to tell a joke? Probably DeepSeek if the wind is blowing now? (That could apply in Germany, too, except that I'm guessing a German genAI will not be so good for jokes.)

Good call and I've read many of his books. However, there are lots of other authors at various levels of goodness and I was basically running away from the request for a top list. I do tend to read other books from an author who wrote a good one, but there are some excellent authors who only had one good book in the, even before you allow for third-book effects.

Mod parent funny. (But what I was looking for in the comments was time-based electricity rate considerations.)

But being a s-hole country explains why no one cares? However I'm still interested in how the stolen data will be used and abused...