And nothing of value was lost.

NYC was supposed to be under water 20+ years ago anyway so they should already be fully prepared for this eventuality.

Whether you like or hate Google or publishers or AI or whatever, this sort of thing only leads to one place:
Eventually the ad based free content model will die and everything will have to be pay walled.
In the meantime, Google and other search engines will have the data they've already slurped up but the amount of new information available to them for free will crash as either the original data sources die from starvation or stick up pay walls.

Google is very short sighted on this one.

Note, I am not making a moral judgment on them or the publishers or ad based models or whatever else. Just saying where this ultimately must lead.

Oh noes! We are tracking shit to make sure it goes where it is supposed to and not to China in violation of our export laws!

This is terrible! It is just like how China will drag people off the street doing harmless things like exercising the wrong way (Falun Gong), disappear them forever and harvest their organs to keep some octogenarian party leader alive for a few more months!

This is worse than that!

And omg did you know that there are cameras in every American retail store pointed at the cash register and front door? I am shocked, I say, shocked by this egregious violation of American civil liberties that we have expanded to the international level to track Chinese criminals stealing our shit.

It makes me laugh how utterly shameless their gaslighting is. No, the US isn't a utopia of goodness and love but to be accused by the Chinese of -anything- is just ridiculous.

Where are the slashdot Chinese shills and American haters on this one? It's great fodder for that crowd.

Audacity. Irony. Hilarity.

I see what the banks are saying but ultimately their arguments fail for me.

If they make the data available to me as a bank customer then they should also make the same data available to a third party acting on my behalf and with my permission.

If I had to download my statements and upload them to the third party on my own the banks wouldn't charge for that but saving me the download/upload step suddenly costs the bank money?

Nah, not ok with that logic.

India absolutely will do it. It is only a question of how long will it take.

Why would they want a tiny piece of the Chinese pie as the minority partner when they could get the whole thing? There's nothing magical about the knowledge required to run a factory. They're going to dump China at the first opportunity.

Whoever decided to call this "China plus one" is silly. It's really, "eat China's lunch". There's no China long term.

He fucked up. Bad. In multiple ways.

He got called out harshly. Justifiably.

He took it like a man and apologized for being a fuck up.

Only a child would take his ball and go home crying to mommy. Men learn from their mistakes and do better.

We now know who the dev is, who you are, and whoever modded you up is.

They don't seem to think so or they wouldn't be working so hard to get the NV chips.

Maybe you need to explain this to Xi.

Yeah the last 4 years were pretty crazy. We had a vegetable for President. An incomplete DEI whore as VP who broke the glass ceiling on her knees. Literally. We decided to rip open the border and then we said the only way to control the border was to make the open border law of the land in Congress. We spent trillions of dollars on nothing which created huge inflation and then printed up more fake money to reduce inflation with the inflation reduction act which couldn't possibly do anything but increase inflation. We have the bare minimum um of support to Ukraine and patted ourselves on the back for saving them. We said those damned Jews are a bunch of genociders because the people who launched a brutal attack on a peace and love festival, raped countless women and little girls and kidnapped hundreds told us they were actually the victim not terrorist murderers of Jews and their own people. We used the power of the federal government to go after our political enemies in the name of saving democracy while utterly ignoring the law, precedent and common sense. We used the media to lie through our teeth while proclaiming truth. And we believed our own gas lighting for 4 long ugly stupid years of failure and idiocy.

The onion is funny sometimes. The last 4 years were not. You've been living in a post truth world for longer than you're willing to admit it or believe.

Oh shit, I am so sorry that me, an anonymous person on the internet, has hurt the feelings of you, another anonymous person on,the internet. Oh woe! So bad of me.

And you make the same mistake all stupid people here make. I have explained this many times but you are slow and really dumb so I will explain again. Just for you!

1) I am a stupid fuck. I am dumber than a sack of wet bricks.
2) I am way smarter than you.
3) 1& 2 are not mutually exclusive. The message dumbasses like you make is to falsely believe you're really smart. You are not.
4) putting the above together: I am a stupid fuck -and- I am way smarter than you

I hope that helped.

And back to the topic to close this out: if someone is so fucked up that their feelings are hurt by some anonymous assholes on the net and they have no real humans in their life then yes they are fucking broken. I didn't break them. The net didn't break them. Something went tragically wrong in their life which has nothing to do with me or anyone else on the net. It is no one's responsibility or problem if they're so fucked up they're sad and need extra therapy because some particular version of some AI got shut down. That's fucking weird and broken.

Hey it just occurred to me as Imwas writing this. You are one of those people who 'misses' his 'friend' version $broken-loser-friend-4.0 of some software program. I am sorry sorry you lost your best friend for a day. I'm all choked up, seriously.

Lmao

I'm responding directly to what the OP said. If you have a beef with what I said, tell him.

If there is no copy of the original work then how is it that researchers have been able to pull original works from various AI?

You and the tech bros can claim whatever you want. The original IS definitely there. If it wasn't there is no way a unique original work could be extracted.

As far as Weird Al goes, he always asked for permission before putting out any of his parodies because he didn't want to be sued even though copyright law covered him so his situation is unchallenged in court but others have been and the parody always wins final judgement when cases go all the way. Why? Because parody is covered. It is sufficiently transformative.

What's your legal background? I'm not a lawyer but /I have worked on IP cases as a legal assistant.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But either way, at least the alcoholics manage to socialize with other humans and don't generally start out drunk nor require to get drunk every time they meet another human being. They still socialize with yumans.

Otoh, here's an article about people so broken they'll upset at the loss of their "friend" who went away during a standard software version upgrade process.

I certainly didn't feel lonely when I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7.

And it's still not the OP's fault those bot-friend people are so broken. He's under no obligation to go door to door looking to befriend lonely broken people. He'd probably get arrested for it.

Wut?

It's his fault that mentally ill people call a computer program their best friend? Seriously?

They talk to a bot because it never challenges them or presses them hard or makes them feel bad? And that's a good thing? Any adult who can't handle those very basic every day events should not be allowed out on the streets; they're broken. They need a psychiatrist and possibly bars, not a bot.

That is some weird shit you got going on even for slashdot. Maybe if you'd blamed the oligarchs and talked about how this will result in Trump's third term and the coming end of civilization within a generation, or some other crazy Rsilvergun stuff then you'd be number one weird shit guy. You're going to have to settle for number two on this one, sorry, pal.

AI coddling and encouraging mental illness is always a bad thing. There are no circumstances when it is good. These bots should come with a warning that the mentally ill and anyone with a weak personality type should not engage.

AI is not transformative at all.

Changing the storage method does not change the thing stored. That's not at all what copyright law means by transformative.

Transformative might be something like taking someone's song and making a parody of it like Weird Al Yankovic. Taking someone's song and storing it in a different format is a worthless defense in copyright law.

There have been many examples of people able to get full or partial text extractions from copyrighted works with the right query. That means the original is in there somewhere and retrievable. That's a huge copyright no-no.

As far as "well, just pay them off!" goes, that is also not how IP law works. Copyright, patents, etc, give the holder the EXCLUSIVE right to those works. Period. The government can't force an IP holder to sell at some arbitrary rate. We call that slavery.

The only hope for the AI companies is to settle or get super lucky and have their entire industry declared a national security issue which is the only thing I know of that overrides copyright law.

And oh yeah, fuck those guys, they should all go out of business. Many of us called this years ago and said they were stealing. Now they'll get what's coming to them for being a bunch of god damned tech bro mega thieves. They have stolen on a colossal scale, unheard of in human history. They should get a punishment unheard of in human history.

AI can still be used for plenty of other things but they need to stop stealing everyone's shit for their own private business interests.

Translation:

"There is no real evidence whatsoever to back this claim and much evidence that his political opposition faked up all of the evidence that does exist but I don't like him so it's all true".

Lmao