Comment Re:And what exactly is illegal about this? (Score 1) 46
Look, the current guy is an objectively awful human being. No argument there.
Regarding most of your other points - you're letting the media frenzy maching lead you around be the nose. As one example, take the SAVE act. To Republicans, it's a massive (BIGLY) accomplishment that keeps out the hordes of fake voters. To Democrats, it's evil voter repression that freezes out huge numbers of legit eligible voters that don't have a valid ID. Both points of view are wrong.
The conservative view is wrong because there's basically no voter fraud in the US. The system works so well that most audits of voting records ends with the conclusions like "we couldn't find a single suspicious vote in the 10 million ballots that we looked at".
The liberal view is wrong because you can probably count the number of eligible voters without a valid ID on a single hand. In the US, if I don't have a valid state ID, I can't open a bank account, get a credit card, rent an apartment, buy alcohol, buy cigs, buy a car, sign up for utilities, or engage with any level of government in any way at all. If I don't have an ID, I'm basically completely off the grid. There's about 14 million undocumented people in the US, and most of them don't have IDs, but they were never going to vote anyways.
The SAVE act is a nonexistent solution to a nonexistent problem. But, if you listen to the media machine, you'd think that there's a world-war-level fight happening over it.
Regarding most of your other points - you're letting the media frenzy maching lead you around be the nose. As one example, take the SAVE act. To Republicans, it's a massive (BIGLY) accomplishment that keeps out the hordes of fake voters. To Democrats, it's evil voter repression that freezes out huge numbers of legit eligible voters that don't have a valid ID. Both points of view are wrong.
The conservative view is wrong because there's basically no voter fraud in the US. The system works so well that most audits of voting records ends with the conclusions like "we couldn't find a single suspicious vote in the 10 million ballots that we looked at".
The liberal view is wrong because you can probably count the number of eligible voters without a valid ID on a single hand. In the US, if I don't have a valid state ID, I can't open a bank account, get a credit card, rent an apartment, buy alcohol, buy cigs, buy a car, sign up for utilities, or engage with any level of government in any way at all. If I don't have an ID, I'm basically completely off the grid. There's about 14 million undocumented people in the US, and most of them don't have IDs, but they were never going to vote anyways.
The SAVE act is a nonexistent solution to a nonexistent problem. But, if you listen to the media machine, you'd think that there's a world-war-level fight happening over it.