Thank you for the replies and moderation points. I guess I am a little paranoid about security because I have been hit by viruses and malware on my previous computer which has made me a little cynical of MS security and I have learned to put up defences as it were but if vista has these features built in as was pointed out by omicronish and has a more considered security model rendering such additon software less needed it is certainly a good thing.

My experience so far of vista has been less than an hour and I intend to explore vista alot more over the weekend so I am not writing my comments from proper testing, just my first impressions of the beta.

I will certainly check out the MS newsgroups with regard to compatabiltiy etc because feedback from users is the best way for software to develop and improve although I believe that I am preaching to the converted about the benifits of community feedback.