I've been through this since 1984. I recognize the walk and the talk.

If he could, he would replace every worker except himself with AI.

That's basically true. But some people might make it even if most are screwed based on the choices they make. And that number who survives could be higher based on the choices society makes.

Global population will begin to decline in 2080.

However, the population of people 40 and under *has already peaked* and is declining. That means *not enough people working* to pay for benefit programs for people over 60 starts *today* .

So you are not having kids-- big whoop. Basically you are saying, "after me the deluge"

Population growth is occurring because of improved medical care and longer lifespans. But having 5 billion seniors, 2 billion adults, and 1 billion kids isn't going to be healthy.

I'm going to move on now. I can tell you are a flat-earther type. Further discussion with you is pointless.

This was a typo: "I think these are tilted apostrophe's instead of hyphens."
It should have said, "I think these are tilted (leading and trailing) apostrophes instead of vertical apostrophes."

I think my editor *automatically* makes this adjustment because it's a word processor.

Until you accept the reality that it's too late to fix/solve the problem, you are not dealing with reality. Once you are dealing with reality, you can start making rational decisions about what actions you can take to improve your personal situation and to keep from making things even worse than they already are.

It will cause your children discomfort if they are under 50.

Higher insurance costs.
Higher food prices.
Possible loss of some food selection (really... that's already happened since I was a child but it's more driven by corporate excessive profit seeking where they will give 12 feet of shelf space to their most profitable product and simply shut out profitable but less profitable products that used to share about 6 feet of shelf space out of that 12).
Increased likelihood of suffering a tropical disease or parasite (nasty one up from central america got a 65 year old friend of mine 4 years ago from a mosquito bite).

But our kids face other challenges, like reduced job opportunities due to AI, the declining marriage rate, the declining population rate (which is probably bad for you and me but good for them).

No I'm on a PC but was using an opensource editor that unicode support. I think these are tilted apostrophe's instead of hyphens.

Yea.. really it is. It's been too late for quite a while now.

I'm not saying don't do your best to address it. But we were supposed to be down to adding 29 gigatons of carbon annually by now and instead we are up to adding 45 gigatons of carbon annually next year.

And since every 1,000 gigatons roughly equates to +1C, we are now putting enough carbon out to raise the temperature every 22 years.

And those projections are ignoring the *massive* methane sublimation that's already been underway a few years.

So, every projection you've read about the future is tremendously over optimistic.

And let's not get into the way the rain bands have already drifted towards the poles about 50 to 80 miles and it's implication for our current breadbowls.

Nor the way tropical diseases and parasites have been drifting pole wards.

Even cutting carbon output will "temporarily" (i.e. for several decades) increase temperatures further.

FYI:
According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Sixth Assessment Report and other scientific sources, here are general estimates of likely average sea level rise per decade from 2020 to 2100:

Sea Level Rise Projections (2020-2100)
2020-2030: Approximately 3-4 mm/year, resulting in a total rise of about 30-40 mm (3-4 cm)
2030-2040: Approximately 3-5 mm/year, leading to about 30-50 mm (3-5 cm) over the decade
2040-2050: Approximately 4-7 mm/year, accumulating around 40-70 mm (4-7 cm)
2050-2060: Approximately 5-10 mm/year, leading to about 50-100 mm (5-10 cm)
2060-2070: Approximately 6-12 mm/year, resulting in about 60-120 mm (6-12 cm)
2070-2080: Approximately 7-15 mm/year, totaling about 70-150 mm (7-15 cm)

And NASA's actual measurements of a "Global average sea level rose by about 0.3 inches (0.76 centimeters) from 2022 to 2023" back up the IPCC projections for the current time frame (a rate of about 3.81cm vs a projection of 3-4cm).

When the north saharan wind and sand and various other confounding and boosting factors line up, there will be more category 5 hurricanes ( and more than spin up from tropical storm to cat 5 faster than they did historically-- so no warning).

And the insurance company's know this. They have doubled, tripled, and *even refused to write policies at any rate* for not just "beach front property" but *any* property within 100 miles of the coast (and near many internal continental river basins as well due to increased flood and extreme flood risk).

This makes me recall the fact that most religious dog breeders believe in genetics and evolution. Because they have to deal with the reality of genetic on a daily basis in their business.

But we know climate change deniers will ignore any studies and data presented.

Heck, there's an entire channel devoted to debunking climate change denial and people (often) just ignore what he says and post blatant misinformation (and to the point: Often based on religious beliefs).

potholer54: A retired geologist.
Here's a good starting video
https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F...

I loathe and despise slashdot's editor and editorial policy on deleting or editing posts.

anyway... ignore this one and go to the one where I reformatted the apostrophe's it didn't like to apostrophe's it did like.

I see the ice caps melting,
The oceans rising high,
We thought we had more time,
But now the truth won't lie.
Storms are getting stronger,
The droughts are in our face,
It's hard to find a refuge,
In our once familiar space.

It's too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now we're losing the fight.
It's too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We've forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

Tropical diseases spreading,
They make their way on flights,
Parasites and infections,
Filling our sleepless nights.
People flee their homelands,
With nowhere left to stay,
Carrying their stories,
In the hope of a new day.

It's too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now we're losing the fight.
It's too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We've forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

And all the dreams we cherished,
Are fading in the haze,
With every step we wander,
Through this endless maze.
We can't ignore the shadows,
As the world starts to fray,
And deep inside we know it,
We've lost our way today.

It's too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now we're losing the fight.
It's too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

It's too late...
It's too late...
And we don't know how.

I see the ice caps melting,
The oceans rising high,
We thought we had more time,
But now the truth won't lie.
Storms are getting stronger,
The droughts are in our face,
It's hard to find a refuge,
In our once familiar space.

Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now weâ(TM)re losing the fight.
Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We've forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

Tropical diseases spreading,
They make their way on flights,
Parasites and infections,
Filling our sleepless nights.
People flee their homelands,
With nowhere left to stay,
Carrying their stories,
In the hope of a new day.

Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now we're losing the fight.
Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We've forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

And all the dreams we cherished,
Are fading in the haze,
With every step we wander,
Through this endless maze.
We canâ(TM)t ignore the shadows,
As the world starts to fray,
And deep inside we know it,
Weâ(TM)ve lost our way today.

Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
The planet's burning bright.
We turned away too often,
Now weâ(TM)re losing the fight.
Itâ(TM)s too late, baby,
To turn back the clocks now,
We forged our own destruction,
And there's no way to vow.

Itâ(TM)s too late...
Itâ(TM)s too late...
And we donâ(TM)t know how.

Let's put it his way... if I put 1 quart of water in a pot on the stove and turn the heat to medium... what will inevitably happen? Even if it takes an hour?

The water is going to boil.

Adding the carbon is equivalent to turning up the stove heat. Then it takes a while for the system ( the quart of water or the oceans and atmosphere) to absorb that heat and reach a new equilibrium.

If you are under 50, you should prepare for food insecurity, prepare for the tropical and dry climates to move polewards by about 10 degrees longitude, probably loss of rain to currently arable lands, greater spread of "tropical" parasites, plants, and diseases. And a lot of involuntary human migration from areas becoming uninhabitable.

Only kids born after 1980 (mostly after 2000) are going to have to deal with the 2080s.

Of course, this doesn't even touch on the economic disruption from declining population, and soon (5 to 12 years) the automation of so many jobs over a short time.

I've been reading and following the IPCC for over a decade. They are soft-peddling the effects for political reasons.

I'm not offering solar and wind as a solution. I'm not offering direct capture as a solution.

I'm saying, the bridge is not out ahead of us. The bridge is out and the locomotive is already falling. The rest of the train will *inevitably* go over drop in the future.

I'm not a doomer. I'm not even much of a prepper. I've typically only got a few months food and a week's worth of power plus a little solar (about +1KW per day if no clouds and not over 100F).

I just recognize reality. It's always been my special gift. I used that gift in a successful career before retiring.

Right now we are adding enough carbon (by human actions alone) every 25 years to cause the eventual temperature increase of +1C.

And that's ignoring the methane sublimating.

It's too late. It's been too late for a while now.