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First CNN is thoroughly trounced over their Iraqi thing. Now the NY Times is being revealed as fraudulent.

http://newsobserver.com/24hour/nation/story/884496p-6162251c.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/05/10/national1805EDT0618.DTL

The left is all a great, big fraud. The sooner the rest of the world realizes that and abandons the left to die, the better off we'll all be. Now, how do we get people to vote libertarian? :-)

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  • On the bright side of things, at least the New York Times investigated, made it all public, and kicked him out the door.

    Although I can't say I'd be terribly shocked if there are reporters pulling crap like this everywhere and getting away with it...

  • On one of the talk shows this evening, someone said they wondered if this guy was cut some slack because of being black. Apparantly, his writing skills were rather good (although in retrospect, perhaps more suited to fiction?) and they might have been trying to nurture him along.

    OTOH, if true that he was cut slack for his race, and to improve the diversity of the staff, who was served? The Times for losing face? Blacks for 'needing' this sort of help?

  • Of course this is reprehensible, just Clinton's lying about his affair was. Any violation of public trust is reprehensible. I am not in the least surprised by it, however.

    We are increasingly growing in an age where the ultimate determiner of value is money and cash, and rules imposed by governments or, rather, legislatures or religions are seen as constraints rather than rules of the norm. There is no way to condone the NY Times reporter doing this or the Times failing to detect it, but both may have b

    • Gee, I don't know, algebraist -- maybe because there's a difference between an espionage tie to a low-level fundraiser in a local city Republican party somewhere and the serving Vice President of the United States, Al Gore, shaking hands with officers of Chinese Military intelligence, and accepting large checks from them? (Mr. Gore later explained that he wasn't sure he had been right to do so, but that he did so anyhow because there was `no controlling legal authority' stopping him from doing so.)

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      • If anything, the current case demonstrates equivocation on the part of high-level government officials on the U.S. relationship with China. Remember, this happened -because- Ms Leung was a double agent, wooed by the espionage folks across more than three administrations.

        And, as far as Dr Lee is concerned, and I have looked at the available evidence in detail, his pursuit was the spooks going on a fishing expedition, knowing that -someone- was giving stuff away and desparately wanting to find a culprit/sc


        • And the eagerness to sell high technology to China continues, including strong lineages of Open Source. See Larry's win [theregister.co.uk].

        • Well, ladies and gentlemen, here we have a perfect example of the Clinton administration line on the Wen Ho Lee case. Never mind that Mr. Lee got an astonishingly short sentence for even the irresponsible handling of sensitive information which he has admitted to. Never mind that the FBI was explicitly barred from looking into Mr. Lee's admitted contacts with known Chinese intelligence agents in the same time period that he was taking sensitive information off-site. Never mind that Mr. Lee has never acc

          • Okay, then why did Leung's FBI handlers who apparently got handled by her in turn just get slaps on the wrist for -THEIR- sloppiness with classified data?

            We all can site our own "more correct" sources in the matter, such as mine [thebulletin.org]. Yeah, and you and everyone else who wants to believe what they want to believe will simply tag any such source as left or liberal and therefore not to be trusted. You are no better than any other religious zealot. Because an explanation comes from someone who is in your opinio

            • Okay, let's see if I understand your argument: when Janet Reno orders the FBI to not follow up leads in the Wen Ho Lee case, this is evidence that Mr. Lee is innocent, but if the Bush administration orders to the FBI to be more vigilant in the Leung case, this is evidence that they're covering something up?

              Yeah, that makes perfect sense... in Bizarro World.

              Poor algebraist -- does your back hurt at the end of the day from twisting yourself into such knots of logical inconsistency?

      • My point about Gore and Loral is really one of content. Gore knows nothing about technology, certainly not precision missile guidance. At best -- or worst -- he is a middleman, putting together a package where a Loral can launch on Chinese missiles and the Chinese get improved guidance, which benefits both them and Loral. If anyone is giving away the goods it's Loral.

        And there are dozens of companies today, in this supposedly harsher security climate, with North Korea grumbling and post-September 11th,

        • Gore knows nothing about technology
          WTF? I thought he invented the internet??

          • Yeah. Old saw. Gore's an idiot. He's not a criminal, 'though, no more than most politicians are. (We're clearly dealing with moral relativism here.)

            I just get sick and tired of what I am beginning to call Partisan Ayatollahs: People who align themselves with particular political parties or what they believe to be political spectrum points (conservative, liberal, libertarian, green) who simply wouldn't know a fact if it hit them, and cannot distinguish between logic and debate and those of demagoguery

            • Oh, algebraist, algebraist, algebraist.

              This post of yours really takes the cake. After repeating every DNC talking point about Wen Ho Lee for the entire thread, making absolutely specious comparisons in an attempt to smear Republicans (c'mon, algebraist, do you think anyone really believes that a low-level figure in the local Republican party in a city in California having Chinese ties is `just the same, man' as the Clinton administration shutting down investigation of Chinese espionage in nuclear weap

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