
Journal eglamkowski's Journal: energy policy 48
Think Iraq was a war for oil?
Worried about our dependence on foreign oil sources?
Obviously we need to start producing energy from alternate sources RIGHT NOW.
Wind power isn't possible everywhere - the turbines take up too much space for the amount of power they generate, so only places that have too much space, like in deserts or in the ocean, can they even be considered. Then obviously you have to have wind. Where it works it's great, but only a few places in the USA, like Boston, have serious potential for this.
Geothermal energy also can't be done everywhere, isn't always economically feasible even where it can be done, and anyways the hot spots cool off over time and have to be abandoned. Is it even being used anywhere in the US at all?
Solar energy may work in some places, but again it isn't suitable everywhere, particularly in extreme northern or southern latitudes where they get little to no sunlight for large portions of the year. And of course, even in other areas, you still have to worry yourself about the number of sunny days you can expect, and even then it isn't always price competitive with existing utilities.
While I'd like to see improvement and investment in solar technology, that's more of a long term thing. It will take a long time to get to the point of having really good solar power.
Which leaves us with... nuclear power! Yeah, you gotta deal with the waste, and there is always the potential for a meltdown scenario, but in terms of ability to produce unlimited power and eliminating our dependence on foreign sources, it's something we can do RIGHT NOW. It's economically viable and we have the technology today.
If you hate wars for oil, hate Halliburton, hate Bush, and hate dependence on foreign sources for our energy needs, you NEED to support nuclear power! It's our only option for getting off the oil addiction RIGHT NOW.
Work on other sources in the mean time, but we can't wait another 10 or 20 years to get something going, we need to take action TODAY. And that means nuclear.
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Oil accounts for 39.90% of energy consumption, while coal accounts for 22.79%. Natural gas 22.87%.
Nuclear = 8.19% and all renewable sources combined contribute 6.08%.
There's a tiny bit in the way of imports making up the remainder.
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When discussing finite resources, that's a solution that's only viable in the short term. How 'bout reducing demand to meet supply?
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But what about extraction capacity?
ways to inconvenience people
Says a lot right there.
if you rashioners would stop blocking new refineries.
I assume you mean to accuse me of demanding that we ration gasoline? Umm, no. Not only unsupported by the facts (my posts here), but just plain wrong. I think rising prices are great, as they are causing people to suddenly realize how supply and demand of a finite resource actually
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Fossil Fuels are still 85.7% of our energy consumption.
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From what I hear the pb reactor can't meltdown.
The electricity generated can help replace coal, and the reactor can also be used to split water to produce hydrogen.
The hydrogen can be used to replace/supplement our dependence on oil.
I don't hear very much about this idea. What am I missing?
Some links I just googled up.
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/hydrog en.html [stanford.edu]
http://www.nei.org/index.asp?ca [nei.org]
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That sounds safe and friendly. What they don't know won't hurt them.
How about PEZ "Pebble Energy Zero emission"
I can see it now. "Hey Bob, did you hear that they are building a PEZ factory nearby? I love that candy."
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I'm all about nuclear power. Good idea. Wish we could make it more efficient though. There's still too much wasted heat with the current process.
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And wouldncha know it, it was Carter (the worst president EVAR, I gather from your JE) who tried thirty years ago to help get solar off the ground with tax credits...and Reagan (best president EVAR from the same horse's mouth) who nixed that tax credit. Carter's also the one who got the very Strategic Petroleum Reserve going
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Well, he was a better choice than Mondale, but that's not saying much, eh?
But actually, the problem of bad presidents isn't just a modern thing - once we got out of the Age of the Founders, just about all the presidents have been bad.
Fillmore? Arthur? Cleveland? Who's ever heard of these guys? They certainly couldn't have been great. I bet most americans wouldn'
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The preaching about how it all went downhill since the Founders also strikes me as a bit odd. We went from a bunch of womanizing white property-holding slaveowners to dyslexic teetotalling pompous gits. While I'm not find of teetotalling pompous gits, I much prefer them and their mediocre ilk to the womanizing white property-owning slaveholder, even if the slaveholders happened to have had some brilliant flashes of i
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I'm not asking them to be gods, but come on, Grant was a disaster! I'm rather disgusted with Jackson's policies on ideological grounds so I can't grant him a reprieve. I'm not talking about guys who just didn't do great things, I'm talking about guys who actively did bad things.
One doesn't have to save the world to be great, but certainly launching an imperialistic war of aggression aga
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Oooooh, I'm so tempted to make a trollish remark about Iraq... ;-)
Cheers,
Ethelred
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Trolling for trolls!
What fun
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Kind of funny how many modern Republicans claim to admire the McKinley administration isn't it?
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I'll go pull some quotes when I get a chance.
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And that's just in the past 10 years!
Ba-dum-dum
Thank you, I'll be here all... oh wait, it's friday, see ya!
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You get back here! So we can throw you out!
Cheers,
Ethelred
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And remember, as high as gas prices are, when adjusted for inflation they're still lower than gas prices in 1981 when Reagan took over from Mr. Malaise and the Misery index Presidency.
Carter's also the one who got the very Strategic Petroleum Reserve
bzzzzzt. That was Gerald Ford. Though I half expect some enviro-nut to start complaining about the irreversible da
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Hey, I'm not saying Carter or Bush have much of anything to do with oil prices. Though their respective actions do have/did have a lot to do with our dependence on oil, which long-term is a losing game economically and politically.
Carter at least tried to get us off of oil a little; Reagan turned all that back and went rig
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Spelling courtesy of deep cuts in public school funding.
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Also get new reactors online that are much more efficient about their fuel use. (basicly fewer lbs. of spent rods per year per kilowatt of output)
Take the remaining amount let it cool for a few years (most of the really nasty stuff is mostly gone in 50 years or so). Then put it in a ceramic matrix and bury it. Old uranium mines are a good choice for location (the waste at this point has about the same
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Wind power isn't possible everywhere - the turbines take up too much space for the amount of power they generate, so only places that have too much space, like in deserts or in the ocean, can they even be considered. Then obviously you have to have wind. Where it works it's great, but only a few places in the USA, like Boston, have serious potential for this.
Eastern Oregon does great- and I'd imagine any other high desert environment
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Anyways, current geothermal energy production amounts to 0.34% of our total consumption. Solar energy accounts for 0.06% and wind energy for 0.14%.
I guess that means we have proof of concept, but does make me wonder how viable it is on a
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:-) Yes, to some extent, though I think the Warm Springs Confederated Tribes got a better deal out of Enron than that.
Anyways, current geothermal energy production amounts to 0.34% of our total consumption. Solar energy accounts for 0
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People don't want 100% shade. make the photovotaics a 'cheap' semi translucelucent/semi-reflective polymer film that can be aplied to glass/etc and call me when you've got it working right. and sell me the rights for a dollar
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Really? Must be my asperger's acting up again- I'd kill to be able to be in 100% shade all the time. (years of migraines have left me a bit photophobic).
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Between the migraines, sunburn, and heatstroke, I can certai
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Whoa! Be careful there. Let all that pressure out, and the earth will collapse on itself like a time lapse movie of a rotting orange.