Reading the story of the Comanche and the Apache quickly dispells the myth of the peaceful native living in harmony with nature. Violence and conflict are human traits, regardless of skin color.

I think they could very well have just not change their practices (because/if they were conpliant with non discriminatory federal law). The problem is the clawback clause. Even if you end up winning in court, fighting the US gov could be a very costly proposition.

I think Conservatives keep bringing up the topic because Liberals don't have a good clear answer to, say, trans in women sports? Conservatives would be stupid to not play that game. And in the same manner, Liberals attack Conservatives where they dont have good, clear answers (say abortion or guns).

Well said. What has been promoted for the last 15 years is discriminatory, racist, segregationist, and sets us way back. As MLK said: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Signed: a foreign born, naturalized 10 years ago, US citizen

Most people have 401k. Most 401k have stock investments. Most Americans are shareholders.

I think that's how they become mainstream. By keeping the Windows users in their comfort zone, which means seeing the occasional BSOD.

Welcome to the future

Just roll over and die

Sure. But the same happens here. And it doesn't mean you can't find useful information or help.

If agree. I find people there generally helpful.

To be clear, I'm merely asking here: what would have been the right play. Just stay out of all of this?

Fair enough. When Iraq and Iran where going at it (in the 80s), the US supported Iraq and Saddam against Khomeini. Was that the wrong move? And then Saddam turned out to be evil. What's one to do?

The US has the strongest free speech law among most countries. It used to be a progressive (left) value.

Saddam was butcheting his own citizens before the US involvment. Assad was butchering his own citizens before the US (non-)involvment. Ghaddafi was butchering his own citizens before the US (and EU) involvment. Etc. I don't have strong feelings either way, but letting dictators slaughtering their own in silence is not satisfactory.

You're in massive denial if you think "westerners" have a monopoly on violence. You might want to read some history, and say how the Comanche and Apache repeatedly slaughtered each other before Europeans got involved. Violence is in our animal side, and only a racist and an ignorant would say a certain group of people has a monopoly on it.