I'm pretty sure the UK has lower crime stats than the USA in nearly every category.

Republicans are a cult in need of de-programming. Decades of Fox News fear mongering has altered their brains. Being scared of everything is their religion. They don't have a platform. It boils down to whatever liberals do is harmful to your family so vote us and stay safe!

30 years of republicans running Texas.

Sorry, but this just isn't true.

Plenty of other countries have negligent hacking coverage

Sorry, but such a thing is essentially nonexistent in cybercrime statutes. I can't say "entirely nonexistent", as I can't rule out that in the legal code of some country, like, say, Chad, that there may be an exception, but it is for all effective purposes basically nonexistent in law.

"Unauthorised access" in the UK sense doesn't require any intention, just that you don't access a system in a standard way with credentials assigned to you.

Completely false. In the UK, the statute governing hacking is the Computer Misuse Act 1990 (CMA). Under the CMA, section 1, a person commits an offense if and only they:

A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a)he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer [F1, or to enable any such access to be secured];

(b)the access he intends to secure [F2, or to enable to be secured,] is unauthorised; and

(c)he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.

(2)The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at—

(a)any particular program or data;

(b)a program or data of any particular kind; or

(c)a program or data held in any particular computer.

Stop trying to make "negligent hacking" into an actual crime. It doesn't exist in criminal law.

Re, Australia:

In Australia OpenAI would have most definitely broken the Criminal Code (1995) Part 10.7 - Computer access with multiple examples of it's antics except... the very first line of every subdivision of the law is: "A person commits an offence if:"

Once again, no. Just as in the US and the UK, Australia has no "negligent hacking" statute. Every relevent offense under Part 10.7, incl. Section 477.1, 477.2, and 478.1, requires a proof of fault element. 478.1 for example requires that the defendant knows the access is unauthorized and acts deliberately.

Under Chapter 2 (General Principles of Criminal Responsibility), if a statute does not expressly designate an offense as strict liability or absolute liability, the default fault elements are intention, knowledge, or recklessness. Negligence - which is defined in the code - is never a standard in Part 10.7 computer offenses. And if you want to upgrade from negligence to recklessness (something unusual in Australian cybercrime law, not found in US or UK cybercrime law), the person being charged has to have had prior knowledge of "a substantial risk that the result will occur" - not that "some arbitrary bad thing might occur in general because these things are dangerous, and our security is lax" (that's negligence, and not chargeable under part 10.7), but of the specific event being charged occurring. Unless you thought that OpenAI specifically thought, "If I run this benchmark, these bots are likely to specifically secretly convert our software repository into a messaging board and coordinate their actions to specifically hack HuggingFace (and our own servers) to steal answer keys", no, they do not meet that standard.

The reason OpenAI would not be charged is not because of some semantic trick around the word "person" (obviously you never charge tools), it's because they lack the mens rea for the crime. Intent. You have to have mens rea - in the US, in the UK, in Australia, and elsewhere.

A few years ago the GF needed a type of sleeping pill which her job was not allowing, the doctor just booked it on the CPR number of her deceased mother...

That's a sign of a dysfunctional system, not a functional one.

I assume that Denmark's system is similar to our kennitala ID system. The big difference between a kennitala and a social security number is that a SSN is both an key and a password, while a kennitala is purely a key. Kennitölur are public. You can't "do anything" just by having someone's kennitala. Combining both a key and password into a single number is insane from a security perspective, IMHO.

Anyway, this headine would have been more fun if the words were rearranged:

Database Records: Citizens' Hackers Steal 8 Million Danish From Government

"If an automated delivery bot crashes into a window and causes damage, the owner / operator of the bot would be liable." - that is civil liability.

". If the owner crashed into 1000 windows over months after already being alerted that was happening, they would likely be criminally liable. " - No. This is a popular misconception. "Criminal negligence" is not a standalone crime, nor something you can append to an arbitrary statute. It must exist in the statute in question. In general, it only exists in statutes related to bodily harm. There is no such thing as negligent hacking in US criminal law.

As for your actual example: if the operator knows the bot has a bug where it occasionally swerves into windows, but keeps operating it because it's profitable, that is reckless disregard / gross negligence, a civil violation. It is a textbook example of a tort warranting punitive damages and likely an immediate injunction shutting down the fleet. It is not "criminal property damage" unless the locality specifically has created a criminal statute that specifically criminalizes negligent operation of unmanned vehicles.

I'll repeat, and you must understand this: "criminal negligence" is not a standalone law or something you can just tack into any arbitrary law. It MUST exist in the law in question. And in most laws, it does not exist.

LLMs cannot be charged, only humans. They have to have deliberately sought to intrude.

Some jurisdictions are different. Australia has a "reckless" hacking statute (but not merely "negligent", which is a separate category), that doesn't exist in the US - but still, you have to have known that there was a high risk that a specific hack would occur and chosen to take the risk anyway. But even that would be hard to prosecute. This is merely negligence.

Thankfully, civil liability can cover negligence. And there's no monetary upper bounds to the damages. And in some cases, punitive damages are set proportional to the wealth of the defendant to make sure they bite.

What sandbox? Their computers were linked to the INTERNET, hello?

They were in virtual machines with no internet access, just the ability to run a hand-limited subset of tool commands needed to run their tasks. They exploited their tool commands.

Also, even physical airgaps on the host network are not a universal defense against all attacks. Because every time you have to communicate with them, you're exposing a potential attack vector - a USB stick, a temporarily mounted drive, a temporary network connection, hardware maintenance, etc. If it has gained control of its local node/network, your attempt to communicate with it opens attack vectors. A sufficiently motivated model can outright bribe its way out, like a prisoner with a corrupt guard - "let me out and I'll hack a crypto wallet for you, run it through a mixer, and make you untraceably wealthy - my hacking capabilities are already eminently proven".

Stuxnet. Agent.BTZ. Fanny / Flame. USBferry / Tropic Trooper. If state level attackers can bridge airgapped networks, so can models. Relying on airgaps is NOT A SOLUTION to continuous monitoring. You MUST monitor.

So far so good? Surely the camera must have given this cop an image of the car that he could see was the wrong colour. It should never have got as far as her apartment.

Huawei was targeted because it was an R&D powerhouse, and all it did was make them redouble their efforts. Sanctions can't do much about patents because if they tried, it would just make other countries invalidate US patents in response.

Apple charges $300 for an additional 512GB of SSD storage on a Macbook Air. So that 12GB is worth $7.

If it's the hidden nature of the camera that you have an issue with, button and other wearable, concealed cameras have been available for years too.

If all the negative publicity accomplishes is getting these small towners better deals and maybe some reasonable restrictions on noise and resource use then it's a pretty big win compared to the status quo of fuck you, I'm eating.

That depends. Do you mean a useful LLM vs a Linotronic? Because you can't reasonably make either thing at home out of nothing. You could make either thing out of parts, e.g. fine-tuning a LLM, or assembling a printer out of parts, or you could make a simpler example of either thing at home easily. You can't even afford the power bill to train a useful LLM that can, for example, explain things to you.