The best case scenario is that a US company buys Element Pro. Then the EU can institute fines, fines, fines. EU barely creates, it stands at the finish line and extracts money from the winner.

Yes, so what on earth are you doing on Slashdot? This certainly has morphed, from me making a truthful admonition to people that their phones are not a safe space to me somehow being part of the police state, where they are gonna get ya, and can manufacture all the evidence needed, and all citizens are doomed.

This isn't even to make some sort of statement that bad things can't happen. Of course there are bad police, just like there are bad people. Are all people evil? Are they evil because some people make false accusations? I posted in here about a false accusation against me - too long to do. it again. But if I take the standard Slashdot intense hatred of law enforcement, I should therefore believe all humans are doing this.

Hell, the police I had to deal with in the fall accusation against me we pretty nice. Seems that a lot of people in here are caught up in a narrative, a prejudiced viewpoint.

Better move to Idaho, build a compound, barter chickens for bullets, Destory your social security card, no electronics, completely cut off from society. Because popo can get ya, and since everyone here thinks popo can just make shit up, you gotta do that. Leave civilization

Wanna get yourself even more paranoid? Popo can record your conversations by measuring the glass vibrations in your house windows. Popo can tell if you are using a radio by finding the IF frequencies. They can even tell what station you are listening to. Popo can disable your GM car using Onstar. Popo can even tell what you are working on by reading RF emissions from your computer screen. Cites upon request.

But they so seldom do this. It's expensive, labor intensive, and always saved for people who they know are doing sketchy things as they build a case.

Enjoy your fear and paranoia.

I feel sorry for people like you. Living constantly in terror and fear of popo, Why do you not move to another country where there is total privacy.

My entire point in all of this, is that you can do whatever you want to do. But using insecure devices is stupid. But you have a narrative that must be served.

Census by the founders includes *every person* not just citizens. Disagree with the founding fathers on that one eh? Also there is an easy thing to do with people who are illegal, just make them legal. Reagan knew there isnt a practical alternative and now a new generation will have to learn that.

Nope....I liked Reagan a LOT, but he fucked up really badly on that one thing allowing an amnesty....caused a rush on the border...Hey everyone isn't perfect and he fucked that one.

Fuck legalizing them....send them all back and try to come in the legal way. I'm not against streamlining and reforming our immigration system to legally come here, but even with that we should be choosy about who we let in, only those that will benefit the US and show they will be likely to meld into the melting pot and become US citizens.

We need to set up system around work that will pretty much lock out ANY person here that is not here legally....I hate the thought of a national ID, but if something similar to it had to be in place to root out all the illegals, make it impossible to work and live here, I'd be for it.

And maybe we need to amend the constitution and ONLY count citizens and ONLY allow most things for citizens....let's make it as unattractive and difficult as possible for illegal immigrants.

First off my fear filled friend, I'm exposing my innocence, not proving it. I'm providing an alibi.

Perhaps you do not like alibis? If a gas station has me on camera, time stamped, and my credit card was used to purchase gas, or a soda, on my credit card, while my cell phone pings off a local tower, that goes a hella long way to provide an alibi.

What is your solution, homie? I just gave a fine way to show your location, and show your innocence if questioned. All by outside sources.

And yes, not all police are saints. Then again, not all police are the evil, evidence planting monsters you appear to believe. It's a spectrum, just like everyone else on earth.

What's more, I have some experience with wrongful accusation. It was sometime in the late 90's, the day after Christmas. I took my son to the local skating rink. about 20 minutes in, when I stepped off the ice, I was approached by 2 officers.

"Sir, where were you last night around 7 P.M.?"

Me: "I was at my parents house, watching a game on TV."

"Can you provide proof?"

Me: Yes, there were some 20 people there at the time,"

"Were you at the airport?"

Me: "I drove by around 8:30 on the way home."

Sir, it's better if you just confess"

Me: (quiet)

So we took it outside, I had the rink manager look after my son. I cooperated fully.

Already the police saw something was off about the situation.

They asked for my ID of course.

"Can you show us your ID?"

Me: "Sure - it is in my car, the red Chevy van right there."

The male cop gets on the phone, the lady cop accompanies me to my vehicle.

"Sir, you shouldn't keep your wallet inside your vehicle, it isn't safe you know."

Me: "It's a lot safer than inside the rink."

She started laughing. This whole thing was not adding up.

We went back to join the other cop.

"Me: Do you want me to call up my parents and relatives now? And I've been very cooperative - what exactly is it I've been accused of?"

Sir, a worker at the airport was threatened last night around 7 P.M., and someone in the rink says you were the person threatening the employee."

Me: "What do we do now?"

"My partner is going to pick up the victim, and we're going to see if he can identify you."

So I hang out with the lady cop while the other runs off to the airport. Comes back 20 minutes later with the victim. I stood with the lady cop, the victim stood about 25 feet away. I could see them talking, eventually the victim shakes his head. Office tells him to have a seat in the cop car. Then walks back to us, also shaking his head.

"Well sir, it definitely wasn't you."

Me: "What did he say?"

"You are taller, wear glasses, have shorter hair, have a beard, are more muscular, and don't really look like the guy who threatened him at all."

We walked back to the rink, They apologized, shook my hand.

"We're so sorry, Mr Olsoc, for the inconvenience, And thank you so much for the cooperation. I'm going in to speak with your accuser."

I chatted with the lady cop, she appeared to actually like me by this point. The male cop came back out.

"They insist it was you, even after letting them know it was definitely not."

Now it was my turn. When I get really angry my voice takes on a calm, apparently eerie tone, I'm told. Never yell.

Me: "I am the president of the youth Ice Hockey association here, my career requires me to work on sensitive research, and I have to maintain a clearance. My life requires I be pretty spotless. Let us make no mistake, if they do not stop, here and now, I will insist on them being arrested for a false police report, and we'll all be in court, criminal, then civil, so if you could do me and them a favor and let them know that if that is what they want, we'll pursue that."

He went in again, came back out

"All taken care of, Ol"

Only repercussions were getting ribbed a lot by the rink manager, and yes, there is some psychological damage to being falsely accused. And ended up on a first name basis with the police I was working with.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

So is it your thesis that the police can and will plant information on my phone for the Lulz?

I suppose there is a no-zero chance, just like there is a none-zro chance I can shit out a singularity.

Yeah, everyone in jail is innocent. And you are quite paranoid.

Now ima gonna give you nightmares. I make certain when I am at a store that I look at and wave to the cameras. I'ma going to buy everything on credit cards. In the even I am arrested in one of your Cops plant evidence schemes, I'ma going to subpoena cell phone records. I'ma going to subpoena their cop cams.

You think I don't have imagination? Au contraire. This invasion of your sovereign citizen rights are things I will plan to use in my defense.

SoI will counter your paranoia with the truth that these modern spying actions are equally likely to prove you innocent.

I haven't been able to find it, because it was several years ago, but in a case in New York City, a woman was raped, and the description of her assailant was circulated. They arrested a man who matched her description - she identified him as the perp.

But it turns out that he worked at a bank, and was working late that day. When he left the bank and checked out, the security cams showed him quite clearly at the same time she was assaulted. A week or so later, they found the real perp, who as it turned out looked very much like him.

Anyhow, you do you.

Similar, I have Safari, Mail, VPN, Boom3d, and Preview, and am using 2.1GB.

It the Mac mini M4 not a sweet little thing?

I have told people, do as you like, commit crimes as you like. You do you.

But I have also told people that if you for a new your second, believe that using your smartphone is at all a good way of assisting in whatever you feel like doing - you are not as smart as you believe you are. They are not secure, they are a little walkie talkie, that transmits radio waves that can be listened to. As noted here, they are not at all secure.

The very technology that allows the cellular system to function is exactly a tracking system, unfortunately people can't understand that if you live in LA, and can still receive calls and text in sat, New York, it knows where you are. Maybe they think that the angry desert gawd tells your phones to ring because only he knows where you are at all times.

Like I said, if a person wants to do something that will land them in trouble - hey, have fun. But using a smartphone, you are documenting it.

Yeah - but I do understand corporatese. If the man says "Xbox is not for sale" - it means it is for sale. Just like when someone is in a bit of trouble, and teh Boss says, We're behind him 100 percent, the guy is gone the next morning.

Regardless, the gaming industry is in a bit of a kerfuffle at the moment. I'm a casual gamer, but can drop a few hundred on them - or at least I used to. I haven't bought a game in a couple years now. So Maybe games will get better if no one is making them any more? Get those mass layoffs going!

Three we are going to see a bump in immigration to the US as the Republican's have made immigration enforcement a total disaster...

Disaster?

I hardly think so....they have gotten the PR wrong in many cases, but I and lots of folks appreciate the efforts and accomplishments so far.

The main problem is, we're not rounding up and deporting illegals fast enough in large enough numbers.

But progress is progress and we're already starting to see some change in good numbers.

One nice side effect will be, hopefully, if we can deport enough NON citizens, they won't be counted in the next census and the reapportionment of house seats to more represent actual CITIZENS in states will come about....

Open up more housing to citizens with illegals gone out of places....and take huge fiscal burden off our government services (education, medical, etc)....with them off the roles being a burden.

You can suggest that, but you are saying "give up your close ties to family/friends/social life", and "move further from your job, or find a new one". Obviously if they really want kids they will make it work, but it's the ones who would like them but are not willing to give up so much of their lives, and limit themselves to one or zero.

Im saying exactly that....if need be, you MOVE to where life is better in general.

Grow up, be an adult make adult decisions.

When exactly did people start being such pussies and afraid to move out on their own...? This wasn't so unusual only a few decades back.

Hell in pioneer days....married couples would load up the wagon and head west often to never see family again.....

That's a bit extreme but is shows mankind often moves to where it is best to live.....when did people get so afraid to leave mommy and daddy? Can people not make friends in new places?

People act like it's a big deal.

Ever since I went out of state to college...I've almost never lived back in my home city or state....it's been great and no downside whatsoever....

I don't see what the big fucking problem ius with kids today.

I have a VERY tight loving family I grew up with, parents, cousins....I still have lifelong friends there and along the way in all states I've lived in.

Moving doesn't mean the end of relationships, just changes....

From observation and what I read...it seems that largely, at least in the US....it is liberal women/couples choosing to NOT have kids the most and birth rates amoung conservatives are rising in some cases....

Good deal that means over time...the liberals will self select themselves out of society....win win.

Really though, children are a huge commitment that, when done properly, requires you basically remake your life around what is best for a stable family unit for the next 20 years and really, once you have a kid, you'll always be a parent.

Err....well, that's been the common, well known NORMAL way of humans since the beginning till about...well, maybe 10-15 years ago when people went off the rails and norms went down the drain?

I mean, no one questioned this at all in all of humanity till just recently......

I think more than anything this is due to toxic feminism which has been fermenting to a head in recent years.....woman are going against what nature tells them and we have society backing that up.

But I get surprised to hear people today stating what you just did sounding like it is a foreign concept someone is newly trying to push on society?

it's hard to say if the Republicans will continue to lean into anti-immigration as hard as Trump did.

God I hope so.....we still have a LONG way to go to get rid of all the illegals that are currently here and need to go....

It's going to need a bit more than cheaper baby supplies. For example, a lot of people can't afford to buy a family sized home.

Suggestion to them...MOVE out of the fucking urban city areas....don't live in NYC....

The US is HUGE and there are tons of places with great jobs, MUCH lower costs of living and your housing dollar goes much further.....less crime, better education, etc.

There is plenty of good housing in you're willing to move out of the areas where it sucks.