Interesting you mention the N82; the HTC marketing materials claim the One has the largest imaging sensor in a mobile.

The N82 actually had a larger sensor than what HTC are using in the One, and had 5mp vs the 4mp of the One. So yet again, HTC are demonstrably unable to even match the figures of a 5 year old Nokia ...

So yes, physics does win, the problem is that HTC don't really have the ability to back up the physics with suitable engineering.

The lens on *most* camera phones aren't that good. There's only one notable exception, Nokias 808. Which is beyond the quality of (all?) compact cameras, and rivals bridge cameras for still image quality.

So having an ARM based device on you at all times is a benefit for what purpose?

Do you regularly write ARM code directly on the device, and then later target it at a small scale computational problem? Or do you browse the web, take pictures, listen to music and tweet a bit?

Whilst I do really like both my N8 and the 808 (and kinda despise my iPhone), anyone who thinks that Nokia were in a great position prior to Q4 2010 are smoking something dubious. It has taken Nokia 2 years to get Symbian into something like a decent state (as seen on the latest 808 firmwares) - Android and Apple were improving and growing at a much greater pace. Of course Nokias problem is down to stupendous levels of incompetence at the top end, management who don't know their posterior from their elbow, that were happily allowing teams to compete with each other, politics that would have made MS management happy beyond their wildest dreams. On that count, Nokia and MS are a match made in heaven/hell (delete as appropriate)

Their intention several years ago was for Symbian to become entry level, and to a certain extent that was happening with devices like the 5230/5530. The 808 is a truly excellent device, with a camera that I doubt anyone will get close to for a few years (as the N8 has yet to be bettered by anything other than the 808).

I've got the last Symbian phone; Nokia 808 - works perfectly. And of course the camera on it is truly excellent, truly decent optics, and image quality thats resulted in my DSLR being used quite a lot less.

Not true; bought my son the NXT2.0 kit for christmas - the software works fine on Windows 7 (but not Win7 SE). As far as I understood it, the sensors are completely compatible between versions.