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Comment Re:Tariffs were paid for by the consumers (Score 1) 141

The question of the mechanisms for returning money to the people who ultimately paid the tariffs, and how, or even if, it's possible to return the tariff payments to the consumers now that it's been ruled that the tariffs were illegal is a different question.

I can see how you would think that, if you were completely, utterly, totally, and in all other ways batshit insane. It's not possible for the government to do that, it would cost an absurd amount for the government to collect all of the information, calculate payments, and distribute them. Therefore the only thing government can do about it is refund the payments. It cannot even mandate that they be returned to buyers even when they can reasonably be identified because a) that will have costs for the businesses who actually paid them and b) the ability to charge whatever the market will bear is a basic tenet of capitalism. Also while we're here c) they don't even enforce existing regulations on price gouging.

Comment Re:Get a grip (Score 1) 126

They are absolutely correct that the West (specifically the US) has abandoned the responsibilities that came with being the only player capable of effecting global peace and stability

There never were any such responsibilities and the US only ever wanted to be top dog so that it could shit on everyone else.

What we have seen and learned with the Iran war is that the British/US empire/cabal/whatever doesn't want the stability and prosperity they are fully capable of imposing on the world

No, they aren't capable of imposing it on the world. It's easy to break things, it's much harder to repair them.

Comment Re:What you don't know you don't know (Score 1) 126

They shouldn't be allowed to play gods, but right now they're not only allowed, they're being encouraged. They've sold themselves to the government movers and shakers as indispensable, and in some cases as the most important, most vital parts of all of society.

They are the most important, vital part of society as far as the lawmakers are concerned, because they're the ones who provide them with their privileges.

Comment Re:Tariffs were paid for by the consumers (Score 1) 141

What matters is who actually, at the end, was out the money. And it was the consumers.

That is not at all what matters to who receives the refunds, which can only be those who were charged.

If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.

Tell me something that matches the law, or stop telling me things.

Comment Re:Good. (Score 1) 43

The USA is the worst of things , Greed, Entitlement, Racism, Bigotry, Religion, etc etc etc and you protect the Pedo President...

I'm not saying that the USA isn't any of those things, because it is, but so are all other places. Literally all of those things are what you have everywhere, because everywhere is capitalistic, and capitalism provides the worst people among us with all of those things. (Religion is just a business, and an inherently fraudulent one at that.) Some places are a bit less capitalistic, so they have a bit less of those things.

Comment Re:Tariffs were paid for by the consumers (Score 1) 141

What I said: "The majority of the tariffs were paid by businesses and the costs were passed on to consumers"

What you said: "Americans Have Paid For 96% of Tariff Costs"

Yeah, American businesses.

I get that you don't understand how anything works, but could you not waste my time with that? Thanks.

Comment Re: And they are what? (Score 2) 126

You just hate Conservativism, the philosophy of limited government, individual liberty, and constitutional law, among other distinctives

The only one of the things listed I hate is the first one, because it's always a bullshit front for people who don't actually believe in any of those other things.

Comment Re:corrupt (Score 4, Insightful) 141

Ah, yes, of course. Refund the very companies that increased prices and made far more money than they should have, by just giving them even more money. Not, you know, average out the entirety of the tariff intake and disperse them to the American people.

That sounds nice and all, but there's really no legal way to do that. The money was collected illegally, so it has to be returned (with interest) to the people it was collected from -- the importers.

Most corrupt administration in American history, that's for sure.

It's going to take years to find out just how corrupt, and we'll never get the full story. What we can see isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

Comment Re:Sucks for the customer (Score 1) 24

If you judge the shuttle success on delivery to orbit, its record is 134 out of 135, or 99.3% success.

If you object, saying "but Columbia crashed on re-entry", fair enough; but then you will also have to count as failures missions where Falcon-9 failed attempted landings.

Heh. The usual metric is "mission success". For a manned flight, that includes getting the people down safely. For a typical unmanned flight the mission is "get the payload to the right orbit". If you manage to land the rocket after that, that's gravy.

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