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Journal bmetzler's Journal: America - Our Great Country 50

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Today most American's will be remembering the tragedy that happened 2 years ago. We didn't deserve this tragedy but it happened because there are people in the world today that hate us for who we are. They hate our freedoms, our civil liberties, and our justice.

Our response to the tragedy which showed how great America was, did not come out of the tragedy itself. The response was a direct result of many decisions that had been made over the previous year. Had those decisions been made differently, we may very well have had a response to this tragedy that we would have all had to been ashamed of.

The first decision I am proud of is the decision that the Supreme Court made that the next president should be elected based on the votes of the American people and the Electoral College. The second decision I am proud of is the choice that President Bush made for Attorney General. Ashcroft is a wonderful man for the job, and has been unrelenting in his work to protect our civil liberties.

When I see what has been done in the last 2 years to continue to protect our freedoms, civil liberties, and human rights around the world, it brings tears to my eyes. President Bush will be remembered as a wonderful president for his direction for this country for years to come. And that makes me proud to be an American.

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  • you nearly made me spill my water bottle on the keyboard!!!

    I'm going to respect your views enough to let you have and declare them relatively unchallenged. I will simply state that i completely disagree, wish that gore had been elected, wish that ashcroft was not allowed within 200 paces of a decision affecting the american people, think that bush should be ashamed of himself for some of his actions and policies, and award you another round of points of Favour for speaking up on your views.

    If everyone p

    • Agreed. Anyone else, and I would have thought the entire thing tongue in cheek. I'm not 100% sure that I agree with your wish that gore had been elected (if only because, according to the rules of the game, he probably lost. I did vote for him, BTW). But you are spot on WRT Ashcroft.
    • I will simply state that i completely disagree, wish that gore had been elected,

      That's a prospect I find pretty worrying. Apart from the damage he'd probably do to healthcare (judging by what he's said since the election), how do you think he'd have responded to 9/11?

      wish that ashcroft was not allowed within 200 paces of a decision affecting the american people, think that bush should be ashamed of himself for some of his actions and policies,

      I hear this a lot - but always without any specifics. Perh

    • Agreed. I don't know about Gore though, I highly suspected he was a Space-Robot (and might shove people down stairs). Anyone other then Bush though, I voted for Nader, personally.
    • I agree. Though I don't consider Bush to be the worst president we've ever had... he doesn't rate very high on my list. OTOH, I'm not sure what Gore would have done...

      The last 2 years haven't been that great, IMO. Afghanistan wasn't too bad but the Iraq thing plain stinks! Oh, and Bush is ignoring the drug dealers in Afganistan that are supplying Al Queda(sp?) with financial help. They should be gone after too!
  • The second decision I am proud of is the choice that President Bush made for Attorney General. Ashcroft is a wonderful man for the job, and has been unrelenting in his work to protect our civil liberties.

    Is there some new tradition to have April fools jokes on 9-11?

    • Is there some new tradition to have April fools jokes on 9-11?

      No, but the governor of Minnesota did designate September 11th to be Patriot Day in Minnesota for a reason. This is my feeble attempt to add my words of gratitude for what the President has done for this country on this day.

      -Brent
      • So you honestly think that John Ashcroft has PROTECTED civil liberities in the United States? What actions/Ashcroft backed legislation can you point to back up that claim? This should comical..
        • So you honestly think that John Ashcroft has PROTECTED civil liberities in the United States?

          Okay, I mean, I could define what "civil liberties" are, and I could going through the Patriot Act and document how it protects my civil liberties, but I know you don't care. I do know however that most anyone "concerned" about civil liberties violations knows what the number 34 means.

          34. That's an interesting number, isn't it. But what does it mean? Well, of course, 34 is the number of "civil rights" viola

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    • I guess I'll just be brief and say that I never understood why people say that "they" hate our liberties, freedoms, etc. Osama was pretty free in Taliban Afghanistan. I think he pretty much had the run of the place. I don't think they hate us for any of that stuff that's supposed to make us feel patriotic. I think they hate us because we support Israel, almost unflinchingly.

      Whereas Osama had near total freedom in Taliban Afghanistan, the people of the country did not. They were opressed, poor, and untrain

      • And yes, we support Israel unflinchingly, as we did before they had a country. In case people forget (and it appears that Germany and France do) it was because of Hitler's destruction of the Jewish people that the caused the creation of Israel. We support it because we helped create it. We are here to protect the innocents of the world.

        Undoubtedly the Jews have seen more than their "fair share" of hatred, but I have to disagree on the innocent part.

        We kicked innocent arabic muslims out of their homes to
        • I'll back you 100%... Just as soon as the Palestinians begin fighting just as determinadely for the lands in Syria and Jordan (?) that were also historically theirs. Until then, it is anti-Jewish hysteria that motivates them, nothing more.
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            • I have no time for either the Israelis (Jews) or Palestinians. Both are worshipping land instead of God. I don't think the Quran or the Talmud suggest that this is the way things should be.

              Further, looking at Israel, I can't see how it is some great catch. There's plenty of land that is more fertile, has more natural resources, etc. Okay, Yahweh promised it to you. He didn't say you had to stay there.

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              • Both are worshipping land instead of God.

                I'm sure that is going on as well, but part of the "issue" that is often unlooked is the way the Palestinians are shoved off onto reservations which are shrinking on a daily basis.

                It is essentially the same thing that "we" (Americans) did to the indigenous people (I hate the term Native American.. it wasn't america until we came along). Hey thats it.. the Palestinians should open up casino's!!!!
                • The people we refer to as 'native Americans' are no such thing. They displaced an older group of people when they crossed the landbridge and headed south. No, no linkage. Sorry.

                  Are you saying that the appropriate way to retaliate against being put on a reservation is to bomb buses and restaurants? Again with the cowardice. If they were honorable men, they would be targetting solely Israeli military and police installations. Further, they would take all precautions to prevent any civilian deaths. (Note also
                  • Are you saying that the appropriate way to retaliate against being put on a reservation is to bomb buses and restaurants?

                    Absolutely not! I think what they are doing is only going to make people want to fuck them up even further. If they were smart, and really cared about coming to a peaceful resolution, they'd take alternate routes. I think their actions of bombing innocent women/children show their true hatred of the Jews instead of just wanting to be free.
                    • Yeah, my comment/reply was a little over the top. There really wasn't any way for me to honestly infer that you would advocate something like that.

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      • We are here to protect the innocents of the world.

        Except in countries in which America has no economic or social interest. For example, Rwanda.

  • I keep hearing this line, almost verbatim? Does every American have to recite it when they swear allegiance to the flag or something?

    No, most of the world does not hate America because of its freedom, because

    • Most of America's most vocal critics come from 'free' countries. France's motto is not oppression, prejudice, hatred
    • A lot of us would debate whether every aspect of American life is as free as the myth suggests, eg freedom to be fed porn without restriction in the name of free speech
    • The vast maj
  • If you take away all the rights that we as Americans have, can you elimate terrorism completely (100%)? I am sure that he would say yes to this question, and so would his supporters, such as you.

    Tell me, how can you be so certain that his policies will stop terrorism, when you can't even stop guys from loading themselves into cargo boxes (seen in the news this week)?

    Tell me, how can you stop terrorism when you cannot control the borders?

    Tell me, how can you stop terrorism when you can't completely police

    • Maybe bmetzler cannot control the borders, or police the ports, because he is some Slashdot journal writer instead of the government. So setzman, you should ask why the US government is failing, not why bmetzler is failing. Be careful with that pronoun "you".

      Meanwhile, the US government is policing its borders and its ports. Maybe it isn't "complete", but that would involve something outrageous, like building a wall with Canada, through the Great Lakes, on every shore, and all around Alaska and Hawaii.

      T

      • You make some good points, but you missed something. The fact is that terrorism CANNOT be eliminated, even if Ashcroft took away all our civil rights.

  • But you're making a lousy argument for what appears to be your point of view.

    "We didn't deserve this tragedy but it happened because there are people in the world today that hate us for who we are. They hate our freedoms, our civil liberties, and our justice."

    Who is it, exactly, that has ever said that they hate "our freedoms, our civil liberties, and our justice?" The only people I have heard make such assertions are the President-appoint and his supporters (in both foreign and domestic government a

  • God Hates America! Dot Com! [godhatesamerica.com]

    This morning Howard Stern was interviewing a daughter of the man [wikipedia.org] behind this site. I was both amused and dumbfounded. Isn't incredible how people with equally(?) fervent religious beliefs can have such disparate interpretations of September 11th?
    • BTW I'm sorry to see your recent JE stating you are going to stay out of discussions of religion and politics from now on.

      I've enjoyed your comments and often found you have managed to state what I was thinking far more eloquently and articulately than I could ever hope to.

      You, Mon Templar, B-overflow and a few others make me feel less of a lone voice in what seems at times a wilderness at best full of libertarians and at worst full of bible-thumping neo-cons.
  • I would really appreciate if you took me off your /. Friends list, because quite frankly, I would rather not be there after reading this latest bucket-load of religious fervour.

    Thank you.

    MT.

  • Wow! (Score:2)

    by alecto ( 42429 )
    What a beautiful troll! Now I think I see why I'm on your foes list.

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