Don't worry I believe you.

Yes, and what do they do next year after they've just given Elon a pile of cash? What happens in 10 years time?

Or do you suggest that giving $21b till the end of time is a good idea?

I never said it should be. At this stage, if I've lost my phone it would make sense that I need to phone the consulate and have my old passport revoked as it was stored on there. What they do then is a risk decision based upon the issuing government.

Once I've done that, (I would assume) I need to prove my identity through copies of my old passport, biometrics or whatever the embassy / consulate / high commission needs to prove my identity, before I can download another one. By the time that they implement all that though, biometrics and other information might be strong enough that this can be automated.

With the state of technology now, what's happening with phone theft and financial fraud, I would say that I wouldn't trust a phone by itself to be a sole arbitrator of a person's identity, there would need to be another factor for authentication, but perhaps technology will change where the whole screen will become a hand / palm reader? Maybe it will be good enough in the near future. I don't know what's going to happen in 10 years time....

I was actually wondering if this was Dr.Bob / jcr in disguise...

The US passport card is limited because it's not a ICAO 9303 compliant identity document.

So why is your argument to leave your passport at home next time if you know it hasn't already been done?

When digital passports are made public (Which they aren't at the moment) I happily will.

In the same way that if I lost my card, I'd have to call my bank, if I lost my phone (Or my physical passport!) I'd still have to call the consulate... So yeah, sure, not a bother. That's the point.

At that point, I might have to get an emergency passport (Which don't have chips typically) to get home, or just buy a replacement phone and download my passport and off I go again!

I don't see why you're being so argumentative. Things change.

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That's pretty much everyone.

If you look back at my comment, I said that they can leverage the existing platform to provide identity control.

> Electronic forgery is about as easy as any other electronic hack

You've managed to forge RSA? You've broken all PKI? Including post quantum? That's not an "easy electronic hack" you've just fundamentally broken any kind of trust and security we have on the internet. So I'm calling BS on that one.

Physical passport forgery requires the chip in your passport to not work so that it's not a second source to be verified against.

If you look at the list of countries who are enrolled for biometric passports, it's pretty much everyone. Sure, there might be a paper backup document which is issued in case you lose your phone, but like Google Pay / Wallet and Apple Pay everyone is using their mobile phone these days.

Countries are already moving to electronic drivers licenses and passports won't be far away. Digital passports will become the norm and the amount of people using be in the majority, the same as what happened with chip + PIN vs mag stripe.

It's not on the passport provider to provide the visa. It's up to the country that accepts the person holding the passport.

So the issuing country only need to know the information about the passport holder, such as their document ID and then then they can verify that at the port of arrival.

All digital passports aka Biometric Passports, and by this I mean US, UK, EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand all have embedded digital passports in their physical passports and have done for 10 or more years now.

There's no reason why they can't use the same platform and verification system with RFID in a mobile phone. There's a lot of things you can do to verify what's going on, including online Bluetooth challenges which can verify apps and platform integrity. This can give you a stronger verification than a physical passport which also poses it's own inherit risks.

Physical passport forgery has been going on for some time now.

I do it multiple times per day. I walk back from a meeting room to my desk and plug my laptop into the dock. A couple of hours later, another meeting and out comes the dock cable and off I trundle to the next meeting room.....or the cafe / pub depending on who it's with.

Everyone moved to Wayland, yeah?

If the complaint is the same, in regards to global market share etc... then whoever wrote it doesn't matter.

They're entering evidence to a court case, Google's abuses of market position are a global issue. India's issues are the same as the EU's.

Birds switch off half their brain while migrating:

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They also lose half of their weight apparently:

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Apple is connecting into the carrier's HLR for provisioning new SIM cards and deactivating old ones. They've got control over your account.

It's a lot of effort for the carriers to be able to support this, either software upgrades or needing to implement and API of some description between their HLR / Billing and Apple.

The carriers want this to happen in some ways because it stops them from phoning the customer care line / going into a shop which costs them money, but there's still a definite cost to implementing this in the first instance.