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Comment Re:Is AI generated SOFTWARE copyrightable then? (Score 1) 47

If Software is subject to the same copyright law, then does this mean that AI-generated software is also not subject to copyright?

Copyright absolutely applies to software, and this ruling doesn’t change that. If a human authors software, it remains protected under existing copyright law (17 U.S.C. 101). The real question is whether AI-generated code qualifies for copyright at all. If a model spits out code entirely on its own, then based on this ruling, it probably wouldn’t be copyrightable. But that’s not how most AI-assisted development works. Tools like GitHub Copilot still rely on human developers to modify, structure, and refine the output. That might be enough for copyright protection to apply—courts just haven’t ruled on it yet.

Yeah, that's the position of the copyright office.:

If a work's traditional elements of authorship were produced by a machine, the work lacks human authorship and the Office will not register it.[26] For example, when an AI technology receives solely a prompt[27] from a human and produces complex written, visual, or musical works in response, the “traditional elements of authorship” are determined and executed by the technology—not the human user. Based on the Office's understanding of the generative AI technologies currently available, users do not exercise ultimate creative control over how such systems interpret prompts and generate material. Instead, these prompts function more like instructions to a commissioned artist—they identify what the prompter wishes to have depicted, but the machine determines how those instructions are implemented in its output... As a result, that material is not protected by copyright and must be disclaimed in a registration application.

In other cases, however, a work containing AI-generated material will also contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. For example, a human may select or arrange AI-generated material in a sufficiently creative way that “the resulting work as a whole constitutes an original work of authorship.”[33] Or an artist may modify material originally generated by AI technology to such a degree that the modifications meet the standard for copyright protection.[34] In these cases, copyright will only protect the human-authored aspects of the work, which are “independent of” and do “not affect” the copyright status of the AI-generated material itself.[35]

The guidance goes on to instruct applicants for copyright registration to "disclose the inclusion of AI-generated content in a work submitted for registration and to provide a brief explanation of the human author's contributions to the work" and "AI-generated content that is more than de minimis should be explicitly excluded from the application."

Comment Re:Copyright on what basis? (Score 1) 47

It's a test case. Specifically, he tried to register the copyright in the work naming the AI system as the author, and himself as the owner of a work-for-hire. The copyright office refused registration, because AIs can't be authors, and therefore there was no human author. He may well own the output, but it's not subject to copyright.

Comment Re:Quite right (Score 1) 47

No. From the decision:

... Dr. Thaler argues that the Copyright Act’s workmade-for-hire provision allows him to be “considered the author” of the work at issue because the Creativity Machine is his employee. Thaler Opening Br. 52-56; 17 U.S.C. 201(b). That argument misunderstands the human authorship requirement. The Copyright Act only protects “original works of authorship.” 17 U.S.C. 102(a). The authorship requirement applies to all copyrightable work, including work made-for-hire. The word “authorship,” like the word “author,” refers to a human being. As a result, the human-authorship requirement necessitates that all “original works of authorship” be created in the first instance by a human being, including those who make work for hire.

Specifically, the employer (including corporate entity) of a employee who creates a work for hire is the legal owner of the copyright, but they are not the author. The employee is the author, and ownership passes to the employer by law.

Comment Re:Who knew? (Score 1) 44

Not sure which fees you're looking at. Here's the fee schedule. Filing a provisional application is $325 for a large entity vs. $130 and $65 for a small and micro, respectively. But that's just a provisional, which never gets examined or turns into a patent. For a nonprovisional application, there are filing fees, search fees, and examination fees, totaling $2k for a large entity, or $730 for a small entity and $400 for a micro entity.

Comment Re:You vill obey ze safety nazi! (Score 1) 279

I can't wait until someone does a study on how many people die because they got into an accident either because they were distracted by the seat belt chime, or was trying to put the seat belt on while driving to stop the chime.

I'll bet it kills more than 50 people a year.

I'm not sure if you've ever been in a car or not, but the seat belt chimes when you first turn the car on, not randomly while you're driving down the highway.

Comment Re:What if a person does it (Score 1) 89

I. have a coffee mug with an image in the style of Salvador Dali. The picture is convincing and you have to take a second look to realize it is not one of Dali's works. A person, not AI, made the image. Is this a violation of copyright?

No, because the image wasn't copied, but this isn't about copyright either. This is about trademark rights. If someone sold the mug saying "here's a mug with a picture by Salvador Dali", that would arguably infringe his estate's trademark rights on his name (as well as being fraudulent).

This isn't trademark infringement though, because they're not saying "here's an Ansel Adams picture," but rather "here's an Ansel Adams-style picture". That falls under nominative fair use, and the fact that it was made by AI is no different than if it were made by an art grad school student: people are allowed to duplicate famous artists' styles, as long as they're not trying to pass their version off as being actually made by that person. You can make your own Picasso-style paintings, you just can't sell them as "lost" Picassos.

Comment Re:Ansel Adams died in 1984 ffs (Score 1) 89

Yep. "The Ansel Adams estate" pretty much says everything that's wrong with copyright. Perpetual copyright hurts creativity because it enables thousands of lawyer-parasites to feed off of societies' creativity & need for self-expression. Once the authors/creators are dead, it should be public domain.

This has nothing to do with copyright. It's about trademark rights to his name.

Comment Re:Software Patents (Score 1) 17

FTA: "Samuel Sparks Fisher, who became the Commissioner of Patents in 1869, pointed out that “it must soon become a serious question to determine what disposition is to be made of the models.” The next year, Congress passed new legislation, dropping the requirement for models."

Comment Re:You still need one for a perpetual motion devic (Score 2) 17

No, the USPTO will *NOT* grant a patent for a perpetual motion machine. It will be flat out rejected for lack of credibility due to involving perpetual motion (which is impossible)...

Re-read the post you replied to: "The USPTO will grant you a patent on your perpetual motion invention if you submit a working model."
If you can submit a working model, then I think you've got credibility (and have apparently discovered an error in known physics).

Also, by definition, a rejection for lacking utility would be inappropriate if the perpetual motion machine does work.

Comment Re:I don't get it. (Score 2) 104

Yep. Want to use the Amazon app or watch Amazon Prime movies? First, please install the Amazon App Store. Want to watch Netflix? There's a Netflix TV and Netflix Movie app, both available from the Netflix app store. Facebook? Oh, you want the Meta Store for that. It's your one-stop shop for all your Meta product needs, but not anything from other companies.

Eventually, your first several screens of apps will all be app stores to support the few useful apps you did install.

Comment I bet the interviews were... interesting (Score 1) 692

Interviewer: "Uh... hello, Mister Job Seeker, I guess. You realize that this is the Grace Hopper Celebration right?"
Mr. Job Seeker: "Yes, but they can't keep men out!"
Interviewer: "Sure, but... Well, let's start with question one on my list: what does Grace Hopper mean to you personally and how have you experienced discrimination as a woman in tech?"

Comment Re:Let me mainspain this to you... (Score 1) 692

That's what this was. FTA: "The nonprofit says it believes allyship from men is important and noted it cannot ban men from attending due to federal nondiscrimination protections in the US." The short-sighted part for the men overruning this is that the recruiters who were there were specifically looking for female candidates, since that was who the fair was being actively promoted to, and this reduced their ability to meet with those candidates. I would not be surprised if many of the male candidates' resumes went straight into the trash at best, if not into a "don't ever hire" folder.

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