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Journal Short Circuit's Journal: Linux stability 13

I've got authorized shell access to three Linux computers on the Internet, soon to be four. One of those machines is a production system, one is semi-production (printer and fileserver at a friend's house), and the other two are personal machines. I've got partial admin access on the production machine (I set up the guy's spam filtering.), and regular user accounts on the semi-production and one personal-use machine, and I currently give administrative advice on the second personal-use machine.

Now, Linux is supposed to be pretty stable, right? You're not supposed to have to reboot every week, or have massive data loss resulting from power loss or hardware failures. I've run Debian GNU/Linux on my computers since 1999, and can only recall one time when a hardware failure led to data loss, on an old machine with a 6.4GB hard drive. My current machine has gone through various upgrades since 2000, but my home directory has remained intact through the period, save for a couple tens of megabytes of accidentally rm'd files. (Out of an estimated 100 GB+, that's not bad. And I've got disk space to grow to 310GB, if I switch to a LiveCD with a HD-based homedir. Or an NFS homedir solution and a small drive on the main machine.) I've run parted and qtparted on ext3 and fat filesystems without losing data. I've played with adding and removing partitions without the luxury of a backup. (Where am I going to put 100GB of data, with a total capacity of 310GB spanned between one each of 20GB, 40GB and 250GB drives, and the data spread across all three?)

But I've still only lost a few tens of megabytes of data. And nothing I couldn't reproduce by download or a script.

But two out of three systems I have access to frequently get rebooted, one of them keeps getting its Linux flavor switched, and one of them seems to go through cyclical hardware failure. What gives? Why does my Linux experience have to be so different from most other people I know?

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  • You know what the hell you're doing.

    Give a man a fishing pole without teaching him to fish, and invariably, he'll wind up in the emergency room with a hook stuck in his thumb.
    • Plus you may make better hardware choices than these people, or keep your machines in a better environment. Temperature seems to be the biggest killer of hardware (especially disks); some people seem to think that locking their machines in a hot and dusty closet is a good thing.
    • You know what the hell you're doing.

      I honestly think that's the first time somebody said that to me.

      Give a man a fishing pole without teaching him to fish, and invariably, he'll wind up in the emergency room with a hook stuck in his thumb.

      If only that'd fit as a Slashdot sig...
  • I do not believe I have ever had data loss with a linux box that was not hardware or brain fart related (rm curse you!).

    But I typically do not store data on a drive/setup that I have not tested (expecially without a recent backup). I also tend to be a slow adopter for new technology on my fileserver.

    One thing that I also do to make sure I don't fubar things up is keep a system drive and a data drive. When I am creating a new install, I will physically remove the data drive from the machine so I don't acci
  • by ryanr ( 30917 ) *
    But two out of three systems I have access to frequently get rebooted, one of them keeps getting its Linux flavor switched, and one of them seems to go through cyclical hardware failure. What gives? Why does my Linux experience have to be so different from most other people I know?

    What's the reboot cause? If it's at someone's house, there are a lot of reasons it might get rebooted, vs. in a cage at a datacenter.

    What do you mean getting its Linux flavor switched? They don't just do that by themselves... yo
    • What's the reboot cause? If it's at someone's house, there are a lot of reasons it might get rebooted, vs. in a cage at a datacenter.

      Computer A, the semi-production machine, is a file, print and webserver hosted at a friend's house. Historically, it's gone through reboots at least every week. (Makes persistant VNC sessions impossible.) It's having {DriveReady SeekComplete Error} issues right now, and lost all the data under /home a couple weeks ago. And SMART doesn't report anything wrong with the drives
  • As you probably know distributions make a huge difference in the stablity of the machine.

    Some distributions seem to be particularly flakey when running certain tasks or on certain hardware. (Red Hat/Fedora I'm looking at you)

    Furthermore many distributions seem to require a complete re-install in order to upgrade between versions as opposed to Debian's clean upgrades.

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